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Project Name: McNair Plaza   Architect: House & Robertson Architects   Groundbreaking: Beginning of April 2021   Completion of Construction: Decem

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On 10/9/2020 at 12:04 AM, monarch said:

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Rosewood Houston will open in 2024 in the exclusive Uptown District near several of Houston’s most popular sites and cultural attractions including The Galleria, Texas’ largest luxury shopping destination, and the Texas Medical Center, the largest medical center in the world.

The Rosewood property will consist of 150 guest rooms in an exclusive mixed-use and high-rise development. In addition to the hotel, the six-acre site will include 80 full-service luxury residences atop the hotel, multi-family residences, lifestyle-driven amenities, and retail and office space in Houston’s highly covetable Uptown District.

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^^^ rosewood abu dhabi.  

 

Wow, very cool !  The tall tower looks like at least 50 stories.  Anyone else get that number or close to that ?  This will be such a neat and upscale addition to the area.  Exciting !

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22 hours ago, Highrise Tower said:

 

They completed the utility and road reconstruction and stopped. There hasn't been any activity in a month.

 

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Ten utility poles in a very small area.  It's like they are trying to make our city as ugly as possible.  If they are too cheap to bury the power lines like first world cities would do, they should at least try to minimize the number of poles.

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On 12/13/2020 at 6:47 PM, rechlin said:

 

Ten utility poles in a very small area.  It's like they are trying to make our city as ugly as possible.  If they are too cheap to bury the power lines like first world cities would do, they should at least try to minimize the number of poles.

 

Not particularly a fan of overhead wires either, but let's keep some context.  

 

1) Most of those poles were there before this development started.

2) This is along what is effectively nothing more than a service alley.  I can't think of a better place to have utility infrastructure

3) It's pretty clear this development itself will have underground electrical service. To the extent this development has added poles it appears to be for the purpose of bringing in underground service.

4) Plenty of other "first world" cities have overhead electrical wires to a similar extent as Houston. We are not unique in that respect.

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Hot damn that's a huge update. @Paco Jonescoming in clutch again. 

I'm counting around 52 floors with a good amount of taller lobby areas, so it's closer to around 56-58 stories in height. Might give Transco/Williams (whatever you want to call it) a run for its money. Hell, it might be our first 800 ft. tower which is surprising considering the amount of big ones Houston has put up.

IMO the design is much better than the previous one, personally never liked the jenga tower designs so this is a welcome change. 

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^^^ maybe it's just me, but this latest particular mcnair project design... although, quite majestic and stately in appearance... offers no grace/vitality/momentum, like the beautiful/striking previous design.  in fact, this particular rendering reminds me of the above ^^^ christmas nutcracker.  stately... majestic... uniformed... completely at attention.  yet, it seems to be yearning/screaming for the nearest walnut to crack.  i am trying desperately to fall in love with this newest rendition.  maybe it's because of it's priceless location, or it's gorgeous height/scope/scale.  IT NEEDS TO BE UTTERLY MAGNIFICENT!  however, it also requires a bit of warmth and poshness with its proximity to the galleria and uptown's famous waterfall.  maybe, it shall grow on me...   

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Glad it is keeping the height. Looks like one of the towers is gone, at least in this phase, from the original release. I liked how the first tower was a little offset as well. Seems like they got rid of that, similar to The Allen.

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Any idea when groundbreaking is scheduled? One other question of a trivial nature. When a building is mixed use which I understand means residential/office/ and commercial I suppose it cannot be classified as residential or office. Is the classification based on the percentage use?

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9 hours ago, monarch said:

 

^^^ maybe it's just me, but this latest particular mcnair project design... although, quite majestic and stately in appearance... offers no grace/vitality/momentum, like the beautiful/striking previous design.

You’re not alone @monarch I too prefer the previous design as it appeared to be more sophisticated and upscale. This one is nice as well; reminds me of something you’d see in Dallas. Nevertheless, good to see the project is moving forward.

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1 hour ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Any idea when groundbreaking is scheduled? One other question of a trivial nature. When a building is mixed use which I understand means residential/office/ and commercial I suppose it cannot be classified as residential or office. Is the classification based on the percentage use?

What do you mean by "classified as residential or office"? Do you mean building codes, or what? Zoning doesn't apply here of course...

Parking requirements? Given the location, I believe they are zero regardless of use. 

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14 minutes ago, Texasota said:

What do you mean by "classified as residential or office"? Do you mean building codes, or what? Zoning doesn't apply here of course...

Parking requirements? Given the location, I believe they are zero regardless of use. 

I'm referring to a colloquial classification ( if one exists) for mixed use buildings. I suspect there isn't one but seeing if anyone knows for certain. As for parking requirements, didn't mention that.

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Yeah I threw that in as something that could be impacted by use classification because I didn't really understand what you were looking for.

I think colloquially most people would refer to a building by whatever the primary use is. So an apartment building with retail is still an apartment building. If it's an even split, or if the secondary use is particularly prominent? It probably depends on the individual building. Is the new Midtown apartment building with a Whole Foods an apartment building, or is it the Midtown Whole Foods? 

Does it vary depending on the city in question's recent history (or lack) of mixed use buildings? What about traditional, small-scale mixed use, like a two-story building with a storefront on the ground floor and residential on the second floor?

Is the term "mixed use" itself a borderline meaningless descriptor for returning to a more traditional building pattern that begins to heal the damage done by American-style Euclidean zoning? (...yes...)

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8 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

You’re not alone @monarch I too prefer the previous design as it appeared to be more sophisticated and upscale. This one is nice as well; reminds me of something you’d see in Dallas. Nevertheless, good to see the project is moving forward.

If this were in Dallas it would be half as tall. Don't forget, they haven't built an office building over 25 stories since the 1980's. The Pepto-Bismol-colored Galleria Financial Center was the last time they soared to 26 stories, and to find something this tall, you'd have to go back to Cityplace. Downtown Austin might be a better comparison with the hotel stacked on top of office.

Never mind, didn't realize the taller building had no office.

 

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2 hours ago, Paco Jones said:

Project Name:

McNair Plaza

 

Architect:

House & Robertson Architects

 

Groundbreaking:

Beginning of April 2021

 

Completion of Construction:

December of 2024

 

Tower Height:

750.5'

 

Information:

All Buildings connect at Below Grade Garage and at Ground Levels and certain levels above.

 

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So, if I'm reading this right, there is still a third structure, its just behind the tallest building.

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1 hour ago, Big E said:

 

So, if I'm reading this right, there is still a third structure, its just behind the tallest building.

Sort of. . .  The “10 story building” in back is a parking garage with a ballroom on the top floor.  

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What goes into a total design change like this?? I guess rule of thumb is it’s alway about the money, but without knowing anything about anything it doesn’t look like this is “cheaper” to me. 
 

really wish they would have stuck with the original design. This to me look more office than a stylish hotel.  At least it’s tall. 

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5 hours ago, Montrose1100 said:

It should be the 8th tallest behind 1100 Louisiana, and pushing CenterPoint Energy to #9. A real stand out structure close to the Williams Tower and the west side in general. 

[EDIT:  Never mind... I see you used Wikipedia numbers]:  Looking at Emporis, it seems it would be tied with 609 Main for 7th tallest.  Did Emporis leave something off the list (which they have been known to do)?  According to Emporis:

  1.  600 Travis  1,002
  2. Wells Fargo Plaza   992
  3. Williams Tower   901
  4. TC Energy Center   780
  5. Heritage Plaza   762
  6. Enterprise Plaza (1100 Louisiana)    756
  7. 609 Main / McNair Rosewood Hotel   752

FWIW, per Wikipedia:

  1. 600 Travis   1,002
  2. Wells Fargo Plaza   992
  3. Williams Tower   901
  4. TC Energy Center    780
  5. Heritage Plaza    762
  6. 609 Main    757
  7. Enteprise Plaza   756
  8. McNair Rosewood Hotel  752

I wonder why the 5-foot discrepancy for 609 Main

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2 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

This would to take the title as the tallest all residential tower west of the Mississippi.

6X Guadalupe has an office component.

 

Unless that 58 story tower (musueo plaza) in the museum district gets under way. Got a feeling that might hit close to 800.

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On 1/8/2021 at 5:13 PM, Urbannizer said:

This would to take the title as the tallest all residential tower west of the Mississippi.

6X Guadalupe has an office component.

 

The Hotel/Rosewood portion is included in "Residential"?

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