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<br />There is a rumor about a new project in uptown, thought I heard some rumblings but thought I would test the waters here to see if I am just hearing things.<br />
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That could be anything. Do you have any better description, please?

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That could be anything. Do you have any better description, please?

I don't think this is any stage except that a conceptual design has been established and possibly some meetings. I know the land has been purchased, but whether or not something is built on it is a question mark. From what I understand it could be a couple of towers, one that might rival Williams tower, again this right now is pure speculation.

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I don't think this is any stage except that a conceptual design has been established and possibly some meetings. I know the land has been purchased, but whether or not something is built on it is a question mark. From what I understand it could be a couple of towers, one that might rival Williams tower, again this right now is pure speculation.

are you talking about the dirt that traded for $230 psf?

or perhaps some land off mccue?

maybe post oak / richmond?

come on eng, you know better than to be that vauge. narrow it down a bit and maybe ill bite.

:ph34r:

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are you talking about the dirt that traded for $230 psf?

or perhaps some land off mccue?

maybe post oak / richmond?

come on eng, you know better than to be that vauge. narrow it down a bit and maybe ill bite.

:ph34r:

This project is too new to give any specific details. I was just wondering if anyone here has heard anything about it. I probably should have kept this under wraps but it is sounding like a pretty high profile job. Even bigger that the W project imo.

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This project is too new to give any specific details. I was just wondering if anyone here has heard anything about it. I probably should have kept this under wraps but it is sounding like a pretty high profile job. Even bigger that the W project imo.

well, now we're all curious

who is your little birdy??

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Something that could rival Williams tower? All I know is that rumored 66-story people claim is going to be Ritz, but you are saying it's a brand new project, which the Ritz is not. Oh, this is getting good, especially since you've already proved your cred with the Oaks District stuff

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Guys, like I said I shouldn't of said anything so early. This could end up being a project that never happens. So give me a little time and I will dish out info regardless if this moves ahead or not.

ENGcons, what is your occupation, you seem to know a lot about whats goign on in Houston. I'm graduating in May and is interested in getting into all this new development stuff. So i'm just asking so I can get a clearer picture of development and all the oppupations it has to offer, because as of now i really don't know very much.

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ENGcons, what is your occupation, you seem to know a lot about whats goign on in Houston. I'm graduating in May and is interested in getting into all this new development stuff. So i'm just asking so I can get a clearer picture of development and all the oppupations it has to offer, because as of now i really don't know very much.

I prefer to remain as anonymous as possible but if you send me a PM I will try explain as much as I can.

Just a small briefing on this project, if this materializes it will be dramatic. I have not seen the renderings but they do exist, and the explaination of them is really quite stunning. Think tall, very tall.

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Just a small briefing on this project, if this materializes it will be dramatic. I have not seen the renderings but they do exist, and the explaination of them is really quite stunning. Think tall, very tall.

Dude, stop it! You're making me giggle.

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lol!

Let's hope it doesn't last until groundbreaking. It could be three or four years. Ouch, and embarrassing.

LOL

If this project turns out to be anything like the rumors, it will be worth the pain and embarrassment.

Good God! Can you imagine THREE 60+ floor towers in uptown in a few years. If all these projects actually happen according to plans (and early speculation), uptown will be packed with building cranes in a couple of years. Uptown could look like Houston's own little version of Dubai in 2010.

I'm drooling.

I know I'm also probably getting a little ahead of myself. But so what, this has been a good week.

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lol!

Let's hope it doesn't last until groundbreaking. It could be three or four years. Ouch, and embarrassing.

And dangerous!

And I wish ENG could divulge a bit more about what he's hearing. I realize that you wish you could take it all back, as you don't have enough information that you feel comfortable about sharing openly, but nevertheless...

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And dangerous!

And I wish ENG could divulge a bit more about what he's hearing. I realize that you wish you could take it all back, as you don't have enough information that you feel comfortable about sharing openly, but nevertheless...

notice the info is slowly but surely making it's way out as we make false predictions =)

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Why Uptown?

I mean, don't get me wrong, this sounds exciting, but where is this land they could put it? Post Oak is going to be pretty much full once Blvd Place and the Titan are up. Woodway, San Felipe, and Memorial are all crowded as well. The only place I can think of that can handle what ENG is describing is around Richmond...I think. Even then, I don't know.

I guess the Uptown skyline could start expanding west....but that area is pretty blah. Like most people I'm sure, I would rather see/hear about these things happening downtown.

And just slightly off topic, the amount of projects proposed or in early development are really looking amazing for the city. The next decade should be exciting, especially if something like this happens.

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This project is too new to give any specific details. I was just wondering if anyone here has heard anything about it. I probably should have kept this under wraps but it is sounding like a pretty high profile job. Even bigger that the W project imo.

Yeah, I call B.S. are you just messing with us? :huh:

On the SSP forum there are talking about a newly proposed Ritz-Carlton at BLVD place. Thats the rumor you are hearing about. Someone on that the forum counted 60 stories which puts it around 800-850 ft. This building looks unique and beautiful, I doubt it'll disappoint.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread...123&page=71

Can anyone at least say what location it is in, or did I miss that. What chunk of land is allocated for this?

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On the SSP forum there are talking about a newly proposed Ritz-Carlton at BLVD place. Thats the rumor you are hearing about. Someone on that the forum counted 60 stories which puts it around 800-850 ft. This building looks unique and beautiful, I doubt it'll disappoint.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread...123&page=71

It is not the Ritz carlton.

And whether you believe me or not I don't care, but when this gets to be more official and given the green light remember who told you first.

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It is not the Ritz carlton.

And whether you believe me or not I don't care, but when this gets to be more official and given the green light remember who told you first.

Don't leave us hangin if it dies either.

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It is not the Ritz carlton.

And whether you believe me or not I don't care, but when this gets to be more official and given the green light remember who told you first.

Well don't act all high and mighty. At least give us a timetable to when an announcement will be made or tell us if it's office, residentual, hotel, or a mix.

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Well don't act all high and mighty. At least give us a timetable to when an announcement will be made or tell us if it's office, residentual, hotel, or a mix.

I wish people would talk nicely to insiders that have proven to be a reliable source on this website. We don't want to scare them off. I think engcons, has already told us everything he feels comfortable about revealing.

Keep the good news coming Engcons! I'm still buzzed over the use of the words 'quite stunning' and 'very tall'.

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It is not the Ritz carlton.

And whether you believe me or not I don't care, but when this gets to be more official and given the green light remember who told you first.

you can't lay claim to a future project announcment that you are so vague about. that is just cocky. I call the next big project! :) btw I typing this message using the iPod touch.

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I wish people would talk nicely to insiders that have proven to be a reliable source on this website. We don't want to scare them off. I think engcons, has already told us everything he feels comfortable about revealing.

Agreed.... We almost ran off Houston devolpment a while back. In other words please chill out with the insiders.

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I wish people would talk nicely to insiders that have proven to be a reliable source on this website. We don't want to scare them off. I think engcons, has already told us everything he feels comfortable about revealing.

Keep the good news coming Engcons! I'm still buzzed over the use of the words 'quite stunning' and 'very tall'.

or he could be a troll yanking our chain. so engcons, how long do we have to wait for the formal announcement?

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or he could be a troll yanking our chain. so engcons, how long do we have to wait for the formal announcement?

Puma, dude...He said this was a rumor; nothing official about it. Obviously he's got credebility w/ some of our fellow members. I think he's worthy of us giving him the benefit of the doubt.

If he's correct and groundbreaking might take place w/in a year to 18 months, then I'm sure an official announcment isn't relatively that far off.

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Wasn't there a rumor awhile back about Dubai business men wanting to invest in a project in Houston? Maybe this could be related to that? You know how they like to do in Dubai....tall!

Oh yeah, and he said it could be larger than the Oaks District project, if so, then I hope the site is either where the Old Navy is, or the strip center where Linens & Things is. Like someone else said, Uptown doesn't really need strip centers anymore.

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Wow, slamming me for bringing something to the table. Project like these are very sensetive and the financial backers do not want word getting out unless they put it out. Contractors who might have an inside track due to a relationship with an owner do not want these coming out because it creates more competition for them, the same goes with design firms.

Some of you are obviously not in the business of building designing or development, if you are you are not a major player in town. Some of you have no idea how projects can be put off of years, or never built due to some of the stupidest reasons. I would hate for a project like this to get put off due to some investor getting ticked off because his ego didn't get to announce this first. Things like that happen believe it or not.

It jsut so happens that I happen to be privy to some of the high end projects in town and it is hard to sit on information, I admit it I am sometimes a gossip queen. I happen to know of about 4 other projects in town that would be great topics but if I am going to get called out for trying to give you fellas a nugget to chew on then noway. Someone did this to me on the W project and I said I wouldn't divulge anymore, I guess I didn't learn my lesson.

You want to know about this project here it is:

Two towers in the galleria area by Williams tower, one office building 80 floors, one residential 50 floors. Right now only in the planning stages, it may never get built, but if it does it will take off within the next 18 months.

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if it does it will take off within the next 18 months.

Ugh, can someone please freeze my body for that length of time or something? Or does someone have a remote control like the one from the movie Click?

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So let's see if I have all these rumors strait.

There is a 50 story tower, a 55 story tower, a 66 story tower and an 80 story tower all in the planning stages in various parts of uptown - not to mention several in the 20-40 story range. Phenomenal!

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80 stories? That's definitely a 1,000 footer! There has never been a 80 story building that has been less than 1,000 feet in this world (none that I know of). Looks like we may have a new "tallest" for Houston if it leaves the planning stages and enters reality. Historically in America, it takes a city 20 to 30s year *with a few exceptions* to get a new city "tallest", so it's about that time so it wouldn't surprise me.

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I wonder what percentage of these new projects, assuming for a minute that all rumors, speculations and predictions are proven true, will be office space, residential, etc. We're talking about a lot of square feet of development, especially considering that in addition to these highrises are the nearby Oaks and High Street developments.

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EngCONS (and anyone else who may want to answer this),

Just two questions...

1. Have you heard of anything at this or a comparable scale for Downtown?

2. Have you heard of anything for Downtown.

No details needed, I'd just like to know if there's anymore besides the pending ones (i.e. Brookfield's two plots and Hines' alleged interest in the old Shamrock block).

If it even only halfway materializes (40 and 25 stories), it would still be great. I just hope that Downtown begins to see more movement from the hype factory.

Thanks a bunch!

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Two towers in the galleria area by Williams tower, one office building 80 floors, one residential 50 floors. Right now only in the planning stages, it may never get built, but if it does it will take off within the next 18 months.

What plot of land is left that this available by the Williams Tower that has room for this.

The water wall is locked up with (3) condo towers, and a skinny lot on the 6-10 side, and the Galleria to the north. Where would these (2) proposals be? Is something getting torn down? Is the water wall lot going away?

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Would have been nice if this thing was in Downtown instead of Uptown. Uptown just needs some rail now. Also, redevelop the strip centers and have the store fronts along the street and the parking garages in the back.

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Crescent is breaking ground on 6 Houston Center in 30 days.

I realize that. What I meant was something other than the Brookfield Propoerties/6 Houston Center/Discovery Tower/Hines interest on Main/La Quinta/Embassy Suites rumors/proposals/plans that have been brought forth already.

Like a real project confirmation for Houston City Centre (besides just a nice graphic) would be nice.

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As far as land near Williams Tower, all I can think of is that spot where sometimes they have the circus, on Richmond, near 610. I think there used to be Mason Jar there. It would be a good spot, because of access to Richmond and 610, and also, if they position it just right, it could block the Mercer.

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EngCONS (and anyone else who may want to answer this),

Just two questions...

1. Have you heard of anything at this or a comparable scale for Downtown?

2. Have you heard of anything for Downtown.

No details needed, I'd just like to know if there's anymore besides the pending ones (i.e. Brookfield's two plots and Hines' alleged interest in the old Shamrock block).

If it even only halfway materializes (40 and 25 stories), it would still be great. I just hope that Downtown begins to see more movement from the hype factory.

Thanks a bunch!

Don't hold your breath. Regardless of mass transit or auto transit, people generally (almost without exception) like to live on the same side of downtown that they work on; it is not a nice prospect to have to cross the center in rush hour congestion to get to work and to get back home. Once favorite sides of downtown develop, new jobs and new housing feed outward on one another, making it all the more unlikely, over time, that residents of the region will work or live on the disfavored sides of downtown. Houston has spread so far to the west now that *downtown is on the wrong side of Uptown*. While there are still plenty of directions to get to it from, and , compared to crappy East and West Coast roads, the drive can be feasible even from the west if you happen to enjoy being behind the wheel, it simply is going to be a rarer occasion to find the tenant base for going real high-rise downtown as opposed to uptown - or the energy corridor, where costs don't need to bother going high-rise.

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As far as land near Williams Tower, all I can think of is that spot where sometimes they have the circus, on Richmond, near 610. I think there used to be Mason Jar there. It would be a good spot, because of access to Richmond and 610, and also, if they position it just right, it could block the Mercer.

But What is close to the Williams Towers......

The Corner of Richmond Ave and Post Oak blvd north to the Lakes on Post Oak.

I think it was a 9 acre tract to be developed by Boymelgreen with 2 condo towers, 222 unit , The San Felipe ??

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But What is close to the Williams Towers......

The Corner of Richmond Ave and Post Oak blvd north to the Lakes on Post Oak.

I think it was a 9 acre tract to be developed by Boymelgreen with 2 condo towers, 222 unit , The San Felipe ??

Yeah if I had to make a guess it would be the Boymelgreen development. It's in the right area as described by ENGcons and we know that Boymelgreen has the financial capacity to put something like this together. I thought I had read that initially they were going to do two 30 story condo towers on that Richmond/Post Oak property. Perhaps they're reconsidering.

Here's the thread from when they bought the property... http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...lgreen&st=0

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  • Highrise Tower changed the title to McNair Mixed-Use: ~6-Acres at 3200 Post Oak Blvd.

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