Howard Huge Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Once again McGillicuty, I have to call you out, man. You are quickly becoming a volcano that spews misinformation under the blanket of news from alleged "sources." Have you and your alleged "source" not been reading the news? Lehman filed for Ch 11, AIG got bailed out and MS shares are down over 30% today to sub-$20 levels. Both you and your"source" at Crescent are wishful thinkers.Plus, I spoke with my own "source" earlier today. Who I will add, is a real person that is intimately familiar with the He$$ deal. He confirmed that He$$'s deal at 6 HC is DEAD and has been dead for some time. They are down to two options: backfilling Devon's space at Allen Center or Discovery Tower, with TCC willing to redesign Discovery to accommodate. 6HC is on hold indefinitely and will likely not be built until markets return to normal. I personally wish it weren't so, but it's time to accept reality and move on.^ Wow, this guy was really good, with dead on info predicting the future.I wonder why he never posted again, insiders like him and swstig and hoothrewthepoo are the highlight of HAIF for me. Their inside info posts are like knowing what you got for christmas before opening your presents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Cool but... i do believe 6HC is indeed dead... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) Cool but... i do believe 6HC is indeed dead... right? I read somewhere that it was being redesigned but I don't know. Edited August 17, 2013 by TowerSpotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Is this it ? http://richardkeatingarchitecture.com/projects/drawings/170/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Hess 2.0? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Wow, I like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I hope it gets built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKB9 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I love how it sort of folds inward a bit, also maybe its just this rendering, but doesn't it look like lights up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I love how it sort of folds inward a bit, also maybe its just this rendering, but doesn't it look like lights up? I like that it folds inward too, what lights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsatyr Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I like that it folds inward too, what lights? The lights at the base that also accentuates the inward fold. I don't know if it is supposed to be indicative of the final product or just added to enhance the rendering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 30-Stories600,000 sq ft1Q 2014 Groundbreaking1Q 2016 CompletionTower redesigned to face Rusk.Page 32: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54482015/CHI%20Breakfast%20Presentation%20for%20publication.pdf 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 30-Stories600,000 sq ft1Q 2014 Groundbreaking1Q 2016 CompletionTower redesigned to face Rusk.Page 32:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54482015/CHI%20Breakfast%20Presentation%20for%20publication.pdf</p>Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Too many spec proposals for DT and not enough tenants it seems. I hope this doesn't get built at the cost of losing 609 Main or the Steam building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 30-Stories600,000 sq ft1Q 2014 Groundbreaking1Q 2016 CompletionTower redesigned to face Rusk.Page 32: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54482015/CHI%20Breakfast%20Presentation%20for%20publication.pdf very cool presentation...thanks for sharing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Too many spec proposals for DT and not enough tenants it seems. I hope this doesn't get built at the cost of losing 609 Main or the Steam building.I don't think it will affect 609 Main, since they plan to break ground around the same time as well. I also think Skanska will build Capitol Tower. For International Tower, if we don't hear an official announcement before next year, well.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I think International Tower has a more interesting location, so I hope that aspect will lead it to being built, too. Not that it would matter to the developers (I suppose), but it might be fun to work there and live in the Hines tower next door. What an easy commute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 So if this goes through, next year on Rusk alone we could be seeing construction on Capitol Tower, the 806 Main Marriot, Texaco renovation, 6 Houston Center, HSPVA, Hyatt Place/Hampton Inn block, and the Marriot Convention Center. Amazing. Like 1982, all over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 The renderings above may not be for the final design. Read somewhere that HKS is still the architect but can't seem to find it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Too many spec proposals for DT and not enough tenants it seems. I hope this doesn't get built at the cost of losing 609 Main or the Steam building.You seem to be right, because after adding up all the none owner-occupied office buildings proposed it comes out to quite a bit of space:800 Bell Redevelopment - 1.3 Mil609 Main - 1 Mil5 Allen Center - 1 MilInternational Tower ~ 750kCapitol Tower - 700k6 Houston Center - 600kSince 800 Bell, 609 Main, and 6 Houston Center all looking like they will move forward quickly, that makes for almost 3 mil sf of new space. I'm only guessing that doesn't bode well for International Tower, let alone 5 AC. I agree with Urbannizer that Skanska seems to be moving forward with Capitol Tower ,which could make for 3.6 mil sf under construction in the next couple years, but they sure are dragging their feet. Maybe has something to do with competition downtown and their Galleria tower leasing up slowly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 ^ I would not assume that 6 Houston Center is actually moving forward so soon. I imagine it will only do so if they sign sufficient leases. Remember, they had a "ground-breaking" for this building once before. Announcing that construction is set to begin in the 1st Quarter of 2014 is a far different thing than actually starting construction. Developers often make such statements as part of their marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You seem to be right, because after adding up all the none owner-occupied office buildings proposed it comes out to quite a bit of space:800 Bell Redevelopment - 1.3 Mil609 Main - 1 Mil5 Allen Center - 1 MilInternational Tower ~ 750kCapitol Tower - 700k6 Houston Center - 600kSince 800 Bell, 609 Main, and 6 Houston Center all looking like they will move forward quickly, that makes for almost 3 mil sf of new space. I'm only guessing that doesn't bode well for International Tower, let alone 5 AC. I agree with Urbannizer that Skanska seems to be moving forward with Capitol Tower ,which could make for 3.6 mil sf under construction in the next couple years, but they sure are dragging their feet. Maybe has something to do with competition downtown and their Galleria tower leasing up slowly? Skanska is gutting out the interior of the Houston Club building right now. It took them a while to start that process, but they are definitely spending money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You seem to be right, because after adding up all the none owner-occupied office buildings proposed it comes out to quite a bit of space:800 Bell Redevelopment - 1.3 Mil609 Main - 1 Mil5 Allen Center - 1 MilInternational Tower ~ 750kCapitol Tower - 700k6 Houston Center - 600kSince 800 Bell, 609 Main, and 6 Houston Center all looking like they will move forward quickly, that makes for almost 3 mil sf of new space. I'm only guessing that doesn't bode well for International Tower, let alone 5 AC. I agree with Urbannizer that Skanska seems to be moving forward with Capitol Tower ,which could make for 3.6 mil sf under construction in the next couple years, but they sure are dragging their feet. Maybe has something to do with competition downtown and their Galleria tower leasing up slowly?i could care less about 5AC, but if International Tower doesnt get built i will be extremely bummed. its one of the nicest proposed towers Houston has gotten in a long time and will be a big impact for people coming in from 45 and 59. im hoping its the tower that shifts the pendulum to start building towers outside the box again in Houston.800 Bell wont start until 2015, and who knows how long reno will take. well say it wont be on the market until 2016-2017.. that gives International Tower plenty of time to get off the ground. im keeping my fingers crossed.. heh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Anyone hear anything new about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Anyone hear anything new about this? ...sorry, still hasn't been moved to midtown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Uh... what? 6 Houston Center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 All construction documents set in place for this one to begin:http://downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2014-01-07/Downtown_Real_Estate_Update_2013-4Q.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 That's an exciting link. I feel like 2013 was The Year of the Proposal; hopefully 2014 will be The Year of Construction for downtown Houston. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 All construction documents set in place for this one to begin:http://downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2014-01-07/Downtown_Real_Estate_Update_2013-4Q.pdfI feel like every time this building is proposed it's at the tail end of our mini boom cycle. Or maybe it was only once before, but I could swear this thing has been cancelled twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I feel like every time this building is proposed it's at the tail end of our mini boom cycle. Or maybe it was only once before, but I could swear this thing has been cancelled twice. I think there has always been plans for additional Houston Center buildings, but the owners obviously have taken a long view (the original proposal dates from the 1970s). I did think though that Six Houston Center was originally meant for the vacant block next to the Four Seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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