arche787 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 That use to be on that block??... and they tore it down why??Wow! Its been a few years since I was last on here!I missed the other 50 replies, but will say based on the initial rendering I am disapointed in the architecture of this building. If you are going to spend $100 million on a building whats another 1 - 2 million for a little bit better architecture. Sure HKS isn't Renzo or Foster but I think they could crank out a better design (this is all based on the first rendering I looked at on the first post).And I guess the first building was torn down back when Houston Center was being planned. Didn't the original plan include like 8 - 10 highrises around the Park Shops development? Probably why it was torn down, sad though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 All the parking lots around the historic part of DT and the drive-in banks, what use to be their? Were they all old two-three story building that were torn down? What about all the lots around MMP? What about along Main towards Midtown?If so when did all these place get torn down and why? I really would appreciate some info about this. Thank you.....It is sad what was torn down for that parking lot. It could have been awesome apartments. Someone one time told me that the old Rice hotel was almost torn down at one time. Look what that turned into, one of the best blocks DT!I Remember seeing a photo of Downtown Houston in the 70's when 1 Shell Plaza was built, there were alot of surface lots. Even more came in the 80's during the booms when old buildings were torn down for 1,000 foot skyscrapers (that never came) and huge developements like the Houston Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Wow! Its been a few years since I was last on here!I missed the other 50 replies, but will say based on the initial rendering I am disapointed in the architecture of this building. If you are going to spend $100 million on a building whats another 1 - 2 million for a little bit better architecture. Sure HKS isn't Renzo or Foster but I think they could crank out a better design (this is all based on the first rendering I looked at on the first post).And I guess the first building was torn down back when Houston Center was being planned. Didn't the original plan include like 8 - 10 highrises around the Park Shops development? Probably why it was torn down, sad though!What happened to the 757? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston2010 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Ground breaking delayed again until early May...I've got $5 that says we'll see another delay in May. This building has been on the ropes for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) All the parking lots around the historic part of DT and the drive-in banks, what use to be their? Were they all old two-three story building that were torn down? What about all the lots around MMP? What about along Main towards Midtown?If so when did all these place get torn down and why? I really would appreciate some info about this. Thank you.....It is sad what was torn down for that parking lot. It could have been awesome apartments. Someone one time told me that the old Rice hotel was almost torn down at one time. Look what that turned into, one of the best blocks DT! Don't look too hard for some of the stuff that used to be there. It is depressing as hell. I remember when they tore down the Witch Hat house on Fannin and that was around 1997. But a lot of this stuff was torn down before WWII. Intersting that a lot of the grand houses had a shelf life of about 30 years even back then. The more things change... Anyway, here are some houses that used to exist along Main St. in Midtown and near the Ballpark. Edited April 3, 2008 by capnmcbarnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Ground breaking delayed again until early May...I've got $5 that says we'll see another delay in May. This building has been on the ropes for a while now.I knew it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I knew it!No you didn't. You never do.Considering how dated and jaded your signature is, that is proof enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 No you didn't. You never do.Considering how dated and jaded your signature is, that is proof enough. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Wow. Those houses were grand!Don't fret though, we now have vacant lots, surface parking, Mexican bus stations, and more to fill in the gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Wow, really impressive houses! Why did they tear them down? Most of them look like they would be landmarks if they were still standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolie Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Sigh. Hard to believe that those parking lots were once things of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Sigh. Hard to believe that those parking lots were once things of value.Is it really that hard to believe?Those parking lots produce a nice income stream. The 6 Houston Center lot is far more valuable as a parking lot than as a couple of houses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Why don't we just turn all of the most beautiful historical homes in Houston into parking lots then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Why don't we just turn all of the most beautiful historical homes in Houston into parking lots then?Starting with nate's! lol, j/kSeriously, it's a crying shame that everything in Houston seems to come down to "how much money can be made off this". Oh well, such is life in my adopted hometown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Why don't we just turn all of the most beautiful historical homes in Houston into parking lots then? Can we start with the homes near Bissonnet and Ashby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Why don't we just turn all of the most beautiful historical homes in Houston into parking lots then?Before those became vacant lots they were commercial areas. In the 50's-70's, South Main was one of Houston's biggest commercial strips, kind of like Westheimer today. Almost every city in America has areas where an early neighborhood of mansions transitioned into commercial, including New York and Chicago. Mansions are no longer the "highest and best use" of the land, the only people who could afford to live in them want to live further out, and something comes along that better justifies land value.Hopefully soon that land will carry something other than parking lots though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 It seems to have been a trend for homes built in the late 1800's to be demolished in the 1920's. It may have been because the older homes were not equipped with more modern conveniences. Here's a cool link of some of the grand homes that used to be downtown. I wish more would have been saved or moved (some were). http://www.houstonhistory.com/poduct2/album3/jsalbum.html I'm always facinated by the architecture and grandness of homes like these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Getting back on topic, does anyone know what caused the delay? Design, financing, equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston2010 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Its a 100% speculative office building on a "tweener" site being built during a national credit crisis by Morgan Stanley (Crescent) who is trying to sell off the real estate company. Pick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Its a 100% speculative office building on a "tweener" site being built during a national credit crisis by Morgan Stanley (Crescent) who is trying to sell off the real estate company. Pick one.dibs on the morgan stanley one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 It seems to have been a trend for homes built in the late 1800's to be demolished in the 1920's. It may have been because the older homes were not equipped with more modern conveniences. Here's a cool link of some of the grand homes that used to be downtown. I wish more would have been saved or moved (some were). http://www.houstonhistory.com/poduct2/album3/jsalbum.html I'm always facinated by the architecture and grandness of homes like these.Probably the main reason that neighborhoods changed so much during that period was that automobiles became very common. With the increase in mobility more areas became available for development (eg River Oaks in Houston). "The Magnificent Ambersons" is an excellent novel about an old wealthy family going through this period. The neighborhood their mansion is on becomes a commercial strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 6 Houston Center does not appear as a listing here: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=2...mp;statusID=1,2Didn't they have a ribbon cutting or something a few weeks back. Who enters that information on that site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 6 Houston Center does not appear as a listing here: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=2...mp;statusID=1,2Didn't they have a ribbon cutting or something a few weeks back. Who enters that information on that site?That building doesn't exist. It ain't going up. It's just a hole for underground parking. Nothing to see here...move along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGillicuty Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 That building doesn't exist. It ain't going up. It's just a hole for underground parking. Nothing to see here...move along.What makes you so sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Well, I have been driving by late at night and there doesn't to be any cars (or heavy equipment) in the lot yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 It is going up...(all I can say) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGillicuty Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well, I have been driving by late at night and there doesn't to be any cars (or heavy equipment) in the lot yet.Oh, I thought that maybe you had some inside info as to why it might not happen. All I have heard is that it is happening for sure. They have been delayed, but all indications are that it is still going up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGillicuty Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 What's the latest with this deal? Anyone...anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 any updates on this?? the crescent website hasnt changed its 6 houston center page but i found the listing on emporis and on skyscaperpage Skyscraperpage says its still proposed.... http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=70033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstrosFreak Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 any updates on this?? the crescent website hasnt changed its 6 houston center page but i found the listing on emporis and on skyscaperpage Skyscraperpage says its still proposed.... http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=70033 Emporis has the building as approved, and I would believe that before Skyscraperpage. Plus, its still up on Crescent's website. I wouldn't worry too much. If we don't hear anything by the end of the summer, then there could be problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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