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No prob, amigo.  Not looking for credit, nor need the affirmation.  You contribute so much to this community/thread.

 

I was looking at the most recent ROD brochure (found in all the elevators) yesterday.  Confirms that both The Porch and Thirteen Pies have cancelled their tenant reservations.  I'd heard that the latter pulled out of OM's Atlanta project due to to financial problems, and I'm guessing that The Porch likewise made a financial decision, too.  Pies had been previously shown as next to Hopdoddy's, closer to iPic.  The Porch was going to locate between Saint Bernard and La Taverna, on the pricey (I'm guessing) Westheimer entrance,  I saw guys in chef's unis coming out of Steak 48 yesterday.  Guessing all remaining restaurants except La Colonial will be opening within the next few weeks, and La C in July sometime.  Just guessing...no expert here.  But can't wait.

 

I continue to be disappointed by La Toulouse.  4 lunches and 4 dinners, but no mas.  Beautiful restaurant but it is very loud and the food quality is way below expectations.  I'm done until they begin in a few months to offer breakfasts and a brunch.  Perhaps they'll have the kitchen 'fixed.'  The Italian owner hired a Frenchman for it, but my tastebuds are especially knowledgable on French, and every dish I've tried is poor.  Brasserie and Max & Julie's prices, but quality is better at La Mad.  Just my humble non-foodie opinion.

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Honestly, I'm a fan of Whataburgers.  It baffled me observing 2-3 hours waits when 5 minutes gets you Texas' fave burger all over the city.  So when the lines go away, I'll be very curious to take my discriminating, and fussy, tastebuds to try Hopdoddy's and see how it compares to my $5 double meat Whataburger served in 5 minutes.  LOL

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^^^ @imagoman uuhhmmm dude, you know that i dearly love you, but SURELY you are wise enough to comprehend that WHATABURGER (with there often times overly greasy and bitter tasting.. and did i mention overly greasy food) is simply no match for the upscale / high-end HOPDODDY from austin, tx.  no matter what kind of spin machine that you may come up with... it shall not work... no sir, it won't....

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11 minutes ago, asubrt said:

Is there a way to block someone's posts so you don't have to see them? Asking for a friend...

 

Yes.  It's quite easy.  Click on your name at the upper right.  Then on the drop-down list, click on "Ignored Users".  Then where it says "Add new user to ignore list", type

 

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Yes.  It's quite easy.  Click on your name at the upper right.  Then on the drop-down list, click on "Ignored Users".  Then where it says "Add new user to ignore list", type

 

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^^^ @Houston19514 please make sure that he doesn't capitalize it... i don't like it....consistency is key...

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1 hour ago, Houston19514 said:

 

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I hope that makes their posts not update the Unread Content list also. I really get sick of opening a thread just to see "Excellent Illustrations" at the bottom when I'm expecting a real update. 

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@jgriff apologies are in order for my "excellent illustrations" posts.  many times i just feel like applauding / acknowledging our many wonderful HAIF photographers for their "excellent illustrations" that they contribute throughout the week in houston's hot tropical climate.  i didn't realize that it was bothering some people....

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Okay, HAIFers.  I had the Classic Burger, with fries, today.  Waited 'only' 45 minutes for lunch, and my perception was except possibly for people who arrived earlier than 11:30 am others waited at least double that time.  

 

I agree with thatguysly.  Hopdoddy seems like most other gourmet burgers.  Certainly very good, and not bad, even for $12 including tip, and a long wait, Sorry, Monarch, though I hate to disappoint such a gentleman and a scholar, but I'll usually be sticking with Whataburger, which personally I like a lot.  Especially $5 and 5 minutes.  And hopefully, my addiction to In and Out (started as an undergrad at UCLA) when they come here someday will also return out of remission to compete with the King of Texas Hamburgers.   :-)  I'm sure I'll have a Hop once in a while if it's convenient, and assuming the lines someday return to 'normal.'  How about a drive through on Bettis???   JUST kidding!

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^^^ @imagoman no disappointment here my pal, i am just happy that you enjoyed your experience.  however, i am well acquainted with the fact that WHATABURGER is an acquired taste... IT'S A TEXAS THING... ESTABLISHED WITH TEXAS PRIDE!  i can certainly respect this.  props for sharing your experience my pal....

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3 hours ago, imagoman said:

Okay, HAIFers.  I had the Classic Burger, with fries, today.  Waited 'only' 45 minutes for lunch, and my perception was except possibly for people who arrived earlier than 11:30 am others waited at least double that time.  

 

There are far too many alternative places that serve outstanding burgers in Houston to ever justify a 45 minute to 1.5 hour wait for one. Perhaps they think they're the Franklin Barbecue of burgers. Must be an Austin thing, they all seem to view waiting as a competition and labor under the impression that there's a correlation between the length of the wait and the quality of the resulting experience. 

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"Must be an Austin thing."  This makes total sense to me.  I wonder if the blockbuster start, and perhaps the beginning of a successful store, is due in large part to that.  As a native Houstonian who has travelled the state extensively, it seems like Austin has become overly romanticized by a million or so folks, mostly UT grads, over the past 25 years or so.  I think many Texans with our state pride, with the possible exception of people in and around Bryan-College Station, have always felt a warm spot in our hearts for Austin and the Capitol.  But Austin's population growth and national stature has obviously boomed since the nascent days of Austin City Limits and a Chamber of Commerce that has played it smart and well since the  1970's.

 

My love of Austin doesn't overcome by distaste for its horrible traffic and long lines for anything tasty, though as a Texan, I'll always have some warm fuzzies about the town.  Hopdoddy's in ROD will continue its success, I'm guessing, and one factor will be 'Austin nostalgia.'  Fuddruckers is run by the most shrewd family in the restaurant game, Houston's own Pappas family, and also will continue to succeed, no matter the competition, imho.  I can't wait to try the next 3 restaurants to open in ROD this summer either!!!

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So River Oaks District ( http://www.riveroaksdistrict.com/ ) is supposedly THE place for the best shopping in Houston for those looking for high end retailers...

But I have been going for the awesome iPic theater and now...finally, the restaurants: 

 

The Tuck Room at iPic opened November 6, 2015 and has some pretty good food and atmosphere to boot (and oh yeah, lots of signature cocktails)! and i love the biscuits and butter on the in movie theater menu...addicted to those things! (Which iPic is by far my favorite theater in Houston now...with the cool pod reclining seating and the awesome food menu, to me it is worth the price of admission) 

http://www.thetuckroom.com/

 

Flow Juice Bar in Equinox opened in Dec 2015!

http://houston.eater.com/2015/10/30/9643496/first-ipic-theater-opens-in-river-oaks-district

http://www.flowjuicebar.com/

 

Toulouse, a french fare restaurant opened in April 2016!

http://houston.eater.com/2016/3/29/11326790/scope-out-the-menu-for-toulouse-houston

http://www.toulousecafeandbar.com/

 

Taverna to open June 4th (Italian food...and they had me at "wood fired pizzas!) 

http://houston.eater.com/2016/6/1/11826738/taverna-pizzeria-risotteria-opening-houston

http://tavernabylombardi.com/

 

Hopdoddy the Austin burger and beer sensation just opened May 31st 2016! (lines have been long but i found (and heard from others) if you go at before noon (they open at 11am) or after 3pm but before 7pm or after 9pm (it closes at 10 weekdays and 11 weekends) its not as long a wait...)

http://houston.eater.com/2016/5/27/11795300/hopdoddy-burger-bar-houston-photos#6501481

https://www.hopdoddy.com/

 

Steak 48 (sister concept to Phoenix's Steak 44) is set to open June 2016

http://houston.eater.com/2016/5/20/11719234/river-oaks-steak-48-announces-executive-chef-prepares-to-open

http://www.steak48.com/home

 

Le Colonial, a French - Vietnamese restaurant opens this summer 2016

http://www.lecolonialhouston.com/

 

Amorino Gelato is coming this summer 2016

http://www.amorino.com/

 

Sumo Maya is coming this summer 2016 as well!

http://www.houstoniamag.com/articles/2016/1/14/sumomaya-mexican-asian-kitchen-coming-to-river-oaks

http://sumomaya.com/

 

with more on the way! stay tuned!

 

Feedback on any of these is welcome! 

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9 hours ago, imagoman said:

As a native Houstonian who has travelled the state extensively, it seems like Austin has become overly romanticized by a million or so folks, mostly UT grads, over the past 25 years or so.  I think many Texans with our state pride, with the possible exception of people in and around Bryan-College Station, have always felt a warm spot in our hearts for Austin and the Capitol.  But Austin's population growth and national stature has obviously boomed since the nascent days of Austin City Limits and a Chamber of Commerce that has played it smart and well since the  1970's.

 

The ironic thing is that the folks who have romanticized Austin in the relatively recent past generally have a near-utopian vision of what it must have been like in the 70s and 80s, but the folks who were actually around to experience the Austin of that era tend to be none too pleased with what it has become now.

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update: was treated to birthday lunch at Hopdoddy today! we got there at 1145am and there were like 25 people in line and within 10 minutes a guy walked up to us while in line and said hey there is no wait at the bar if interested! so we all went right in, were greeted immediately, ordered our food and were in and out within 30 minutes! i even got a free milkshake from the bartender because he overheard it was my birthday! :) cant wait to go back!

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On 6/1/2016 at 9:38 PM, mkultra25 said:

 

There are far too many alternative places that serve outstanding burgers in Houston to ever justify a 45 minute to 1.5 hour wait for one. Perhaps they think they're the Franklin Barbecue of burgers. Must be an Austin thing, they all seem to view waiting as a competition and labor under the impression that there's a correlation between the length of the wait and the quality of the resulting experience. 

 

Austin has a much higher tolerance for waiting in line for food than Houston does. Hopdoddy, yes, but also Torchy's, Tatsu-ya, Franklin, etc. Maybe Austin has more people with nothing better to do than wait in line for food.

 

I would expect the Houston Hopdoddy line to run considerably shorter than in Austin within a few months.

 

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^^^ OMG, the new exterior of the magnificent HARRY WINSTON boutique at ROD is simply brilliant, stunning, and opulent.  one can only imagine

just what the interior shall look like once construction is completed this summer.  WOW!

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JPMorgan Asset Management has purchased Houston's posh mixed-use complex, River Oaks District, in a partnership with the property's developer, according to sources familiar with the deal.

The cash transaction was more than $550 million, according to a source, a high price for the Inner-Loop shopping, office and apartment development and one that demonstrates the resilience of Houston's retail market amid an economic slump due to collapsing oil prices.

 

While the city's office market has been hammered by energy's decline, retail real estate is still benefiting from population gains and lower gas prices, according to a recent report from CBRE Group, a commercial real estate firm.

"The sheer size of the market has captured the attention of retailers, placing Houston as their third most sought after market for expansion behind New York and Los Angeles," the report stated.

Still, CBRE warned that by the end of the year or early 2017, retail sales could soften as more high-paying jobs are lost.

OliverMcMillan, the San Diego-based real estate firm that developed River Oaks District, retained an ownership stake in the property and a management role in the partnership, sources said.

The seller was an entity including OliverMcMillan and Baupost Group, a Boston-based hedge fund. OliverMcMillan also had a $150 million loan on the property from Bank of America, according to property records filed in Harris County.

OliverMcMillan and JPMorgan declined to comment.

Such sales of properties aren't uncommon after the developing process is finished, said Ed Wulfe, longtime real estate developer and chairman and CEO of Wulfe & Co.

"It happens often and I think the bottom line is this is just ensuring the financial stability of the project with a major financial institution, which again protects the viability of the project," Wulfe said.

Those changes typically don't affect retail tenants. Essentially, a landlord change may be the only impact they'll experience, and in this case, the original developer is still involved the project.

River Oaks District spans 14 acres at 4444 Westheimer, just inside the West Loop. The project, some 10 years in the making, opened last fall with some of the world's top luxury brands, including Cartier, Dior, Hermes and Tom Ford. A slate of restaurants have or will soon open, including French bistro Toulouse Café and Bar, Taverna, Steak 48, Le Colonial and Hopdoddy Burger Bar from Austin.

Several River Oaks District retailers and their representatives contacted by the Chronicle declined comment on the purchase

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http://www.chron.com/business/real-estate/article/River-Oaks-District-fetches-550M-plus-in-cash-7973054.php

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Been going to hopdoddy ever since they opened in Dallas three years ago (though I'm sure Houston was always in their expansion plans). Like Gene said, you can skip the line if you eat at the bar, which is funner anyway. I recommend the Diablo if you like spicy stuff, I can't get anything else there now. Whataburger has a more traditional burger taste, I'm not sure what it is about hopdoddy's burger patties but something isn't conventional. Of course half the time you eat at Whataburger you get cold food, which doesn't happen at hopdoddy.

 

Another thing - the signs at the Austin locations are a little racier than in Dallas, lots of "smack my buns" type stuff. Be interesting to see which version Houston gets.

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2 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

Been going to hopdoddy ever since they opened in Dallas three years ago (though I'm sure Houston was always in their expansion plans). Like Gene said, you can skip the line if you eat at the bar, which is funner anyway. I recommend the Diablo if you like spicy stuff, I can't get anything else there now. Whataburger has a more traditional burger taste, I'm not sure what it is about hopdoddy's burger patties but something isn't conventional. Of course half the time you eat at Whataburger you get cold food, which doesn't happen at hopdoddy.

 

Another thing - the signs at the Austin locations are a little racier than in Dallas, lots of "smack my buns" type stuff. Be interesting to see which version Houston gets.

I will be there around 1:30 today if anyone wants to join me. Green sear-sucker shorts.

 

 

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i didnt see this posted before (so if it has, then sorry!) but here is a good news update on iPic and the pending lawsuit that will now go to court in October!

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/retail/article/iPic-chain-gets-another-win-in-fight-with-AMC-7940805.php

i love iPic and the amenities and food etc so i have found the higher price is acceptable and warranted in my opinion... and it keeps the riff raff away which is honestly the best part ;) 

 

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HW is likely never "busy".  They probably only need to make a handful sales a month to do just fine.  Did I read at one point (I think before Apple NYC) that HW was the highest grossing store per sq ft in Manhattan?  It only takes a few 0.1%-ers to make a month at HW, I would guess.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, UtterlyUrban said:

HW is likely never "busy".  They probably only need to make a handful sales a month to do just fine.  Did I read at one point (I think before Apple NYC) that HW was the highest grossing store per sq ft in Manhattan?  It only takes a few 0.1%-ers to make a month at HW, I would guess.

 

 

 

 

I've never had the pleasure of shopping at HW - how expensive are they ?

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58 minutes ago, HoustonMidtown said:

I've never had the pleasure of shopping at HW - how expensive are they ?

I have not been inside either as it would be a pointless waste of time for me.  They don't list prices on their website bit a google search is revealing (if true, and I suspect it is more true than not).  

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^^^ JOHN HARDY is coming to ROD.  another top brand jewelry retailer.... nice.....

 

Houston will get the first of three U.S. retail locations for John Hardy, an international luxury jewelry maker.

The 1,000-square-foot Houston boutique is scheduled to open in September in River Oaks District. It will be John Hardy's first U.S. location, according to the company. A New York City flagship store is scheduled to open in November, followed by a third store in an as yet unannounced U.S. city.

The retailer touts its expansion into U.S. markets as part of an ongoing transformation for the 41-year-old brand, which has included developing global digital commerce to be a "business that reaches customers at multiple touchpoints."

"As we work to grow the John Hardy brand and bring the best luxury jewelry and service to our clients, expansion in to retail boutiques in the U.S. is a natural next step," CEO Robert Hanson said in a statement.

John Hardy began its artisan, handcrafted jewelry business in Bali in 1975. The company sells its collection in the U.S. through several other retailers. The retailer has a design studio and workshop in Ubud, Bali.

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i will say it has been so awesome to see this development come alive since the restaurant openings!!! it seriously was a ghost town for the longest time it felt like!

and hopdoddy, while still busy doesnt have the super long lines like the opening week so its been great getting to go there often! 

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4 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Akris:

 

the home of a $2000 sack dress.  Yippie.

 

https://www.akris.ch/us_en/akris/dresses/7646

 

or this  thing for $3000:

 

https://www.akris.ch/us_en/akris/dresses/7435

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apart from the first one being Wool, you pay for the name. It's exclusive and you have to afford the admission.

 

Meanwhile I'll feel fancy with brooks brothers & j crew. 

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12 hours ago, gene said:

i will say it has been so awesome to see this development come alive since the restaurant openings!!! it seriously was a ghost town for the longest time it felt like!

and hopdoddy, while still busy doesnt have the super long lines like the opening week so its been great getting to go there often! 

what time are you going? ive tried 3 times to go. everytime....an hour + wait.

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