citykid09 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If they had that many tenants already lined up, construction would've already started.LOL, True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Actually, construction had started quite some time ago. I just noticed the new garage a couple of weeks agoand forgotten to mention or take pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Are you sure? I just went out and drove around the site and didn't see any new (or old, for that matter) garages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yah. Its a but set back across the street from the restaurant. And a swear I saw a crane there previously.but I was too busy driving at the time to take in the entire view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Across from which restaurant?Next time you drive by, take a picture. I didn't see anything when I went by, and the google maps satellite view is showing all of the buildings on the site intact, and those pictures were taken in the past few months. If a new garage sprung up, I would think that the construction at least would be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPHous Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 My guess is they are talking about the high street construction that stopped, the 4ish story steel frame that has been there for some time...I hope i am wrong, but that would be my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 either way, a garage going up is kinda interesting. someone find out the exact location of it and we'll figure out which project it's for, or not for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 here's a link to the street view of the empty plot across from carrabbas at Branard.If you look on the overheads, you can see there is actually construction visible at that spot at Branard @ Argonne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) here's a link to the street view of the empty plot across from carrabbas at Branard.If you look on the overheads, you can see there is actually construction visible at that spot at Branard @ Argonne.River Oaks District is on Westhiemer close to 610, are you thinking of West Ave?Carrabbas is expanding, that is what you're seeing.-----I did not know this project had any public financing help: $629 Million River Oaks District, Uptown-Galleria, Houston, TX. The 14-acre premier redevelopment site is projected to include two luxury hotels, high-endretail, office space and residential components steps from the Galleria. On behalf of thedeveloper, SPPRE prepared a Public/Private Finance Plan that illustrated all private investment and the tax revenue generated by the project to public partners. The determination of these revenue sources supported the basis for public financial investment in the development. Developed several methods for the public partners to recoup their proposed investment based on the success of the project.Edit: more images, not sure if these are the winning design though. http://bey-design.com/work-experience/commercial/ Edited May 20, 2011 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Edit: more images, not sure if these are the winning design though. http://bey-design.com/work-experience/commercial/How old would this link be? The link you posted yesterday about the project coming out of the "on hold" phase didn't seem to mention the hotels and high rises at all.Safe to assume they're cancelled? Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) River Oaks District is on Westhiemer close to 610, are you thinking of West Ave? Carrabbas is expanding, that is what you're seeing. ----- I did not know this project had any public financing help: Edit: more images, not sure if these are the winning design though. http://bey-design.co...nce/commercial/ Actually, the one you're talking about is "High street" that pretty much got frozen in its tracks. It's fairly close to Mid lane @ Westheimer. I forgot what this particular development is to be honest. I know that Carrabbas is expanding (they certainly need it) and are building a garage, and several other buildings around it. EDIT: Here is the topic I meant to use it on. Link. If someone can merge and purge, please? Edited May 20, 2011 by ricco67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 How old would this link be? The link you posted yesterday about the project coming out of the "on hold" phase didn't seem to mention the hotels and high rises at all.Safe to assume they're cancelled? Haha.I know, pretty old, but we hadn't seen them (but one) before, so I thought I'd share ;pBut the article mentioned it's the first phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) . Edited May 21, 2011 by Urbannizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 good news: River Oaks District and High Street, slated for development on adjacent properties on Westheimer, are looking for various types of tenants in an effort to move forward. Both projects were on display in May in Las Vegas at the International Council of Shopping Centers annual convention.Read more: Inner Loop mixed-use projects back on table | Houston Business Journal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/sarnoff/7616129.htmlThe company won't discuss those plans just yet, other than to say they've been altered from the original design."It's being tweaked to be in alignment with the current market," Hutchens said.which i take it means they've downsized the scope and will likely develop in phases. but good news nonetheless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) http://www.chron.com...ff/7616129.htmlwhich i take it means they've downsized the scope and will likely develop in phases. but good news nonetheless.They had two highrises and two other big buildings in the initial proposal. What is your educated guess as to how they've downsized, you think there will be any highrises left? Will it just become about the size of High Street? Edited June 20, 2011 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 As long as they don'y waste it by making it a strip center.This has been a very good month for construction new for Houston, just putting it out there.This should directly affect usership on HAIF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Now all thats left is to make the Target parking lot into a garage and use the land to make apartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 San Diego-based Oliver- McMillan has removed a luxury hotel component from the original plan of what was once called River Oaks District. The project is now known as 4444 Westheimer and will include retail, office and residential space, a company representative said.In May, the project was "well received" at the annual International Council of Shopping Centers conference in Las Vegas, spokeswoman Karen Hutchins said last month."We're seeing things coming back," she said.Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7655882.html#ixzz1STjwWXum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) and The W Hotel contniues to elude Houston.... Edited July 18, 2011 by swtsig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) You're gonna just LOVE this. Ladies and gentlemen, your new River Oaks District plan: http://www.olivermcm...n.com/riveroaks This is just awful imo. For a walkable development, it doesn't look the least bit cozy. Edited September 22, 2011 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellanious Caesar Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Honestly I never had high hopes for this project from the start and I think of it as just infill, its neither good nor bad from my point of view. I don't care how upscale it is or even if they get the best stores I wouldn't ever shop there. It looks bland, tacky, and replaceable. I knew the high rises would be cut out from the final plans but I have to say that I'm still very disappointed regardless. Oh well haha, you win some, you lose some. Houston is still a maturing city and will be getting lots of nice and also not so nice high rises in the coming 20 years, many will make up for the loss on this and many will make you wish they left it as a vacant plot. Just my $0.02 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 If that's the plan, why bother doing anything at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 This is just awful imo. For a walkable development, it doesn't look the least bit cozy.The C-store around the corner from me that sells malt beverages isn't the least bit cozy. It's still quite walkable, both in the sense that it is accessible to adjoining neighborhoods and that its site can be traversed on foot. Nope, no Calatrava-designed people-movers there! No sir. And if you don't agree with me, then you are a vulva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 If that's the plan, why bother doing anything at all?In order to achieve greater site efficiency, better-optimized NOI relative to debt service, and ultimately, a much lower cap rate when it sells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 am I looking at this right? Isn't the Quizno's going to go away?My main issue is how traffic control is going to be handled. From what I can there there will only be so many amount of places where they can come and go there. Maybe I'm overlooking it, but I don't quite see how 18-wheelers can get there for deliveries, but they will probably just do the big box trucks. Oy, this is going to be interesting during christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The C-store around the corner from me that sells malt beverages isn't the least bit cozy. It's still quite walkable, both in the sense that it is accessible to adjoining neighborhoods and that its site can be traversed on foot. Nope, no Calatrava-designed people-movers there! No sir. And if you don't agree with me, then you are a vulva.I just think for a "high-end" development in a relatively "high-end" area, it's a dissapointment b/c to me, it looks like a glorified Premium Outlet or even a Woodlands Market Street, but without the softness of a park. Feels cold, like a Rothko Chapel. But does it "work?" Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 BARF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 man... what a disappointment. from 3 potential towers to ZERO. i'm just amazed that this city, as big as it is, can't land a big name luxury hotel to safe it's life. one would think with as much international business (particualrly from wealthy latinos and middle easterners) that a prime piece of real estate such as this would be attractive enough from a practical and financial standpoint to bring one in.bummer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Perhaps this can be boycotted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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