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Project in west Houston caters to consumers' desires to eat, shop, live and work all within walking distance

Suburban space meets urban style

By NANCY SARNOFF

Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

CityCentre to be suburban space with urban style

At one of Houston's busiest intersections, developers are planning to bring a different sort of urban life to 37 acres of mostly vacant land where Town & Country Mall once stood.

Embracing a trend to build urban-style developments in suburban settings, Midway Cos. announced on Thursday its more than $500 million CityCentre project

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The Latest Info On CityCentre

Project in west Houston caters to consumers' desires to eat, shop, live and work all within walking distance

Suburban space meets urban style

Nice add to Houston. Such a well placed location, maybe the heart of the dense part of the metro area.

These "town centers" will be such classic examples of early 21st century urbanism and they should endure much longer than the last trend, the enclosed mall, due to a more economically diverse basis.

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Nice add to Houston. Such a well placed location, maybe the heart of the dense part of the metro area.

These "town centers" will be such classic examples of early 21st century urbanism and they should endure much longer than the last trend, the enclosed mall, due to a more economically diverse basis.

having ONE successful project such as this will do wonders for building others.

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The First Colony developers have a history of saving their most precious lots for something grand. Remember that the tract that Sugar Land Town Square is currently on sat empty for 25 years as development surrounded it. Then they decided to build an urban Town Square.

The lot closest to Hwy 6 is reserved for a high rise condo, the tallest building in Fort Bend County. The lot across from Starbucks and the actual "Town Square" is most likely being saved for a big name, significant tenant once the rest of the spots have filled in.

The actual town center is now gone. It was in Sugar Land, not in First Colony. Does no one else see the ironies in "creating" fake town centers, especially when you kill off the original, authentic ones such as Sugar Land?

Simulacra town centers comprised of chain stores and franchises. The "town center" looks no different in Sugar Land from the newly corporately sponsed town center in Disneyland or Virginia.....

Further proof the proprietor is no longer the backbone of this country.

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The actual town center is now gone. It was in Sugar Land, not in First Colony. Does no one else see the ironies in "creating" fake town centers, especially when you kill off the original, authentic ones such as Sugar Land?

They have to do something to break the mold of sububan development. They has to at least start something of an edge city to get the ball rolling, the fakeness will soon organically come into it's own.

I support it, franchised out or not, it is still a walk-able environment that is way better than a strip center.

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I think it'll be a good development for the area to the extent it encourages a live/ work environment and has a positive impact on (further) sprawl westward. Unfortunately, I won't be able to 'take advantage' of the development since it's so far from DT/ Midtown. But if you like living out that way then this will be a nice alternative.

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I think it'll be a good development for the area to the extent it encourages a live/ work environment and has a positive impact on (further) sprawl westward. Unfortunately, I won't be able to 'take advantage' of the development since it's so far from DT/ Midtown. But if you like living out that way then this will be a nice alternative.

They better not pull a HP's on us though and remove some on the residential portions. :angry:

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They better not pull a HP's on us though and remove some on the residential portions. :angry:

It is an easy bus ride to downtown from Town & County, that's not too far.

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I don't know when Midway is going to start on the City Centre project, but I know that Interfin has already started building Vintage Park Houston. The company built uptown park and are now working on another project in northwest houston. I heard there will be another "Central Market" there and other great high-end retailers. I drove by the other day and noticed that most of the structures are up already. It's a really nice area that most people tend to not noticed as much like the Willowbrook Mall area.... It's going to be a great surprise for HOUSTON!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Does anyone know when Midway is scheduled to start on CityCentre (where T&C mall used to be)? It's been a grassy eyesore for months now. There are signs all around on the cyclone fencing about their financing being approved by Amegy Bank. They were put there in the last month or so.

Anyone have a clue?
:huh:

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Honestly guys, I thought that's where Memorial Hermann's new 35 story tower was being built; or was that at Gessner? I know it was right in that area. As far as construction goes on the freeway systems, ever heard of double decked freeways? I live in The Woodlands, and on a Sunday morning it takes 25 minutes to get DT. On Monday morning, it's an hour commute sometimes. Have the upper deck be express lanes going to the burbs and the underside be for regular exits and what not. Only have distinct exit points from the upper decks. That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something.

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Honestly guys, I thought that's where Memorial Hermann's new 35 story tower was being built; or was that at Gessner?

That was Gessner

I know it was right in that area. As far as construction goes on the freeway systems, ever heard of double decked freeways? I live in The Woodlands, and on a Sunday morning it takes 25 minutes to get DT. On Monday morning, it's an hour commute sometimes. Have the upper deck be express lanes going to the burbs and the underside be for regular exits and what not. Only have distinct exit points from the upper decks. That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something.

They are widening the freeway already, with more HOV lanes. You live here don't you?

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on where the Old Town and Country mall was located. I guess this is going to be similar to what Sugarland has kind of with condos, retail shops, and restaurants within a few feet of each other. Click on the video. Interesting report by Sher-min Chow.

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...t.3853a54d.html

I've been hearing that the new park downtown is going to be built similarly like this. Retail shops down on the 1st level and residences on the upper floors of buildings surrounding the park. A water fountain, some restaurants, etc. added also.

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on where the Old Town and Country mall was located. I guess this is going to be similar to what Sugarland has kind of with condos, retail shops, and restaurants within a few feet of each other. Click on the video. Interesting report by Sher-min Chow.

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...t.3853a54d.html

I've been hearing that the new park downtown is going to be built similarly like this. Retail shops down on the 1st level and residences on the upper floors of buildings surrounding the park. A water fountain, some restaurants, etc. added also.

Thanks for the video. I was looking for it last night.

Too bad all this stuff is for rich people.

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Honestly guys, I thought that's where That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something.
Name one freeway in Houston that is widened every two yrs.

As for double decked freeways, the residents/cities along the katy rejected a decked freeway option.

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Name one freeway in Houston that is widened every two yrs.

As for double decked freeways, the residents/cities along the katy rejected a decked freeway option.

Yep, any freeway with an extensive elevated component is usually unpopular to both residents and commercial interests and is also very expensive, so it is usually just unrealistic.

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Yep, any freeway with an extensive elevated component is usually unpopular to both residents and commercial interests and is also very expensive, so it is usually just unrealistic.

Commuter rail is an imperative.

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What would commuter rail do that the Metro buses and HOV lane system can't do at least as well?

Yikes! Methinks that just might be the comment that makes this thread that's been teetering on the edge go careening down into full-blown hijack mode.

City Centre... yes, uh, nice-looking project! :unsure:

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WOOHOO!! Just got back from a meeting - my company will be moving there in early 2009!!

All the ground floors will be retail in the buildings. We'll have 4 floors in a 6-story building across from the G-3 parking garage. No more dividing everyone into groups for 3 meetings - the movie theater will be available, and seats 400. No more dealing with Richmond-at-the-Beltway traffic to get lunch or go to the bank. I wish we could move tomorrow.

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Any news on this project? It seems like one of the bigger/better ones in the metro area, but I haven't heard too much about it in the last month or so.

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Oh, I heard about this thing. I made a thread on it (it might have been at my Atlanta board's Houston section).

I'll post what I posted over there, here:

City Centre: Houston

masterplan.jpg

This development is where the old Town&Country mall was. Website is here: http://www.citycentrehouston.com/citycentre/index.php

Total Retail Space: 560,000 sf

Total Surface/On-Street Parking: 344 Spaces

Total Garage Parking: 3,577 spacess

siteplan_lg.jpg

Some renderings:

location.jpg

vision.jpg

^^New Residential^^

living.jpg

map.jpg

More:

p_tcaerial3.jpg

p_tcaerial2.jpg

p_tcaerial.jpg

More: Town & Country Redevelopment

That one picture looks like it has a Z Tejas (www.ztejas.com) in it. Anyone have any confirmation on that? That place started in Austin and is awesome.

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What's going on with this project? There has not been any activity lately and now they are actually taking some of the fences down. Did it tank or has the freeway construction in the area stauled it?

Also, I was a little disappointed to see many of the same chain, suburban resturants going in that are at all the fake "town" centers. This is Houston, bring on the flavor and the funk. There seem to be a few individual ones, but Brio and all other blandbrands are cramming in too.

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What's going on with this project? There has not been any activity lately and now they are actually taking some of the fences down. Did it tank or has the freeway construction in the area stauled it?

Also, I was a little disappointed to see many of the same chain, suburban resturants going in that are at all the fake "town" centers. This is Houston, bring on the flavor and the funk. There seem to be a few individual ones, but Brio and all other blandbrands are cramming in too.

Fence is coming down, so we can tresspass!

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What's going on with this project? There has not been any activity lately and now they are actually taking some of the fences down. Did it tank or has the freeway construction in the area stauled it?

Not sure what your seeing, but there has been construction daily.

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I'm also seeing alot of construction activity and I drive by there almost every day. One of the structures is already three stories.

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What's going on with this project? There has not been any activity lately and now they are actually taking some of the fences down. Did it tank or has the freeway construction in the area stauled it?

You mean besides that large building that's starting to go up and all the activity throughout the site? :blink:

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You mean besides that large building that's starting to go up and all the activity throughout the site? :blink:

The large building is the Memorial City area.

Maybe I am missing sounding, but I am not aware of any new construction at the Town and Country site.

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You must not be aware of the location of the Town & County site. There's definately a lot of activity there.

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The large building is the Memorial City area.

Maybe I am missing sounding, but I am not aware of any new construction at the Town and Country site.

Are you familiar with Town & Country? It is between Memorial and I-10 on the Beltway 8. There has been activity daily.

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Are you familiar with Town & Country? It is between Memorial and I-10 on the Beltway 8. There has been activity daily.

Have not been around the area lately, and most of the construction talk recently has been around the Memorial City area.

I stand corrected.

Interested in some photos if anyone has them btw.

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Is the Neiman Marcus still there, or did they tear it down?

Neiman's went bye bye, even after they had those silly banners that said, "Survival of the fitest" or something.

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Well there wasn't for a while in the cut through way I go, and the fences were down. BUt they were pumping water out of the area..........so now I see activity again

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I can confirm as of yesterday that the skeleton of a three-story (or taller) building is present and there are at least a half dozen bulldozers and backhoes on site. Part of the problem is that the location of the core construction activity can be obscured by some of the existing structures surrounding it. The best views are from the overpasses that connect the Tollway to the Katy Freeway westbound. What's also cool is that you can envision the amount of activity this area will enjoy when both Memorial City and T&C are all full build. It's an impressive little piece of real estate when viewed from above.

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I can confirm as of yesterday that the skeleton of a three-story (or taller) building is present and there are at least a half dozen bulldozers and backhoes on site. Part of the problem is that the location of the core construction activity can be obscured by some of the existing structures surrounding it. The best views are from the overpasses that connect the Tollway to the Katy Freeway westbound. What's also cool is that you can envision the amount of activity this area will enjoy when both Memorial City and T&C are all full build. It's an impressive little piece of real estate when viewed from above.

I may have crossed your path yesterday Hizzy. The building your speaking of is actually up to it's 5th story, and they've got another one going up with pre fabricated walls right on the beltway frontage.

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The prefab building is part of the Town & Country Village expansion.

Also, the fence along the City Centre site has banners for restaurants that are coming... Ra Sushi, Z-Tejas and Brio Tuscan Grille are representin'

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