T 2 THA C Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I think this is why the ramps were built to be strong enough to support a commuter rail train going down the middle of it.What ramps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 For overpasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProHouston Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I think this is why the ramps were built to be strong enough to support a commuter rail train going down the middle of it.They definitely did not consider (more likely they ignored) the potential for light or commuter rail to be added when they designed the reconstruction of this corridor. It was a huge mistake, one that we'll have to pay for in the decades to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProHouston Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hopefully not as long as Sugar Land's town center, it looks like they stopped and they still have two empty lots to fill in.The First Colony developers have a history of saving their most precious lots for something grand. Remember that the tract that Sugar Land Town Square is currently on sat empty for 25 years as development surrounded it. Then they decided to build an urban Town Square. The lot closest to Hwy 6 is reserved for a high rise condo, the tallest building in Fort Bend County. The lot across from Starbucks and the actual "Town Square" is most likely being saved for a big name, significant tenant once the rest of the spots have filled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 They definitely did not consider (more likely they ignored) the potential for light or commuter rail to be added when they designed the reconstruction of this corridor.uummmm, yes they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Remember that the tract that Sugar Land Town Square is currently on sat empty for 25 years as development surrounded it.Let's hope they fill it in before that, I doubt anyone wants to wait another 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Latest Info On CityCentreProject in west Houston caters to consumers' desires to eat, shop, live and work all within walking distanceSuburban space meets urban styleBy NANCY SARNOFFCopyright 2007 Houston ChronicleCityCentre to be suburban space with urban styleAt one of Houston's busiest intersections, developers are planning to bring a different sort of urban life to 37 acres of mostly vacant land where Town & Country Mall once stood.Embracing a trend to build urban-style developments in suburban settings, Midway Cos. announced on Thursday its more than $500 million CityCentre project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Latest Info On CityCentreProject in west Houston caters to consumers' desires to eat, shop, live and work all within walking distanceSuburban space meets urban styleNice add to Houston. Such a well placed location, maybe the heart of the dense part of the metro area.These "town centers" will be such classic examples of early 21st century urbanism and they should endure much longer than the last trend, the enclosed mall, due to a more economically diverse basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Nice add to Houston. Such a well placed location, maybe the heart of the dense part of the metro area.These "town centers" will be such classic examples of early 21st century urbanism and they should endure much longer than the last trend, the enclosed mall, due to a more economically diverse basis.having ONE successful project such as this will do wonders for building others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyc_tex Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) The First Colony developers have a history of saving their most precious lots for something grand. Remember that the tract that Sugar Land Town Square is currently on sat empty for 25 years as development surrounded it. Then they decided to build an urban Town Square.The lot closest to Hwy 6 is reserved for a high rise condo, the tallest building in Fort Bend County. The lot across from Starbucks and the actual "Town Square" is most likely being saved for a big name, significant tenant once the rest of the spots have filled in.The actual town center is now gone. It was in Sugar Land, not in First Colony. Does no one else see the ironies in "creating" fake town centers, especially when you kill off the original, authentic ones such as Sugar Land?Simulacra town centers comprised of chain stores and franchises. The "town center" looks no different in Sugar Land from the newly corporately sponsed town center in Disneyland or Virginia.....Further proof the proprietor is no longer the backbone of this country. Edited February 23, 2007 by nyc_tex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The actual town center is now gone. It was in Sugar Land, not in First Colony. Does no one else see the ironies in "creating" fake town centers, especially when you kill off the original, authentic ones such as Sugar Land?They have to do something to break the mold of sububan development. They has to at least start something of an edge city to get the ball rolling, the fakeness will soon organically come into it's own.I support it, franchised out or not, it is still a walk-able environment that is way better than a strip center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Kind of like West Village in Dallas - I'm excited about the project and glad that they're building it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feufoma Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think it'll be a good development for the area to the extent it encourages a live/ work environment and has a positive impact on (further) sprawl westward. Unfortunately, I won't be able to 'take advantage' of the development since it's so far from DT/ Midtown. But if you like living out that way then this will be a nice alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think it'll be a good development for the area to the extent it encourages a live/ work environment and has a positive impact on (further) sprawl westward. Unfortunately, I won't be able to 'take advantage' of the development since it's so far from DT/ Midtown. But if you like living out that way then this will be a nice alternative. They better not pull a HP's on us though and remove some on the residential portions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto250us Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 They better not pull a HP's on us though and remove some on the residential portions. It is an easy bus ride to downtown from Town & County, that's not too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psilverot Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I don't know when Midway is going to start on the City Centre project, but I know that Interfin has already started building Vintage Park Houston. The company built uptown park and are now working on another project in northwest houston. I heard there will be another "Central Market" there and other great high-end retailers. I drove by the other day and noticed that most of the structures are up already. It's a really nice area that most people tend to not noticed as much like the Willowbrook Mall area.... It's going to be a great surprise for HOUSTON!!! Does anyone know when Midway is scheduled to start on CityCentre (where T&C mall used to be)? It's been a grassy eyesore for months now. There are signs all around on the cyclone fencing about their financing being approved by Amegy Bank. They were put there in the last month or so. Anyone have a clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 KHOU report on the City Centre development 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 This thing looks pretty big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Honestly guys, I thought that's where Memorial Hermann's new 35 story tower was being built; or was that at Gessner? I know it was right in that area. As far as construction goes on the freeway systems, ever heard of double decked freeways? I live in The Woodlands, and on a Sunday morning it takes 25 minutes to get DT. On Monday morning, it's an hour commute sometimes. Have the upper deck be express lanes going to the burbs and the underside be for regular exits and what not. Only have distinct exit points from the upper decks. That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Honestly guys, I thought that's where Memorial Hermann's new 35 story tower was being built; or was that at Gessner?That was GessnerI know it was right in that area. As far as construction goes on the freeway systems, ever heard of double decked freeways? I live in The Woodlands, and on a Sunday morning it takes 25 minutes to get DT. On Monday morning, it's an hour commute sometimes. Have the upper deck be express lanes going to the burbs and the underside be for regular exits and what not. Only have distinct exit points from the upper decks. That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something.They are widening the freeway already, with more HOV lanes. You live here don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Not everybody lives on the Katy Freeway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanluv2 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 (edited) on where the Old Town and Country mall was located. I guess this is going to be similar to what Sugarland has kind of with condos, retail shops, and restaurants within a few feet of each other. Click on the video. Interesting report by Sher-min Chow. http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...t.3853a54d.html I've been hearing that the new park downtown is going to be built similarly like this. Retail shops down on the 1st level and residences on the upper floors of buildings surrounding the park. A water fountain, some restaurants, etc. added also. Edited April 7, 2007 by icanluv2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 welcome to the forum, wxman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 on where the Old Town and Country mall was located. I guess this is going to be similar to what Sugarland has kind of with condos, retail shops, and restaurants within a few feet of each other. Click on the video. Interesting report by Sher-min Chow.http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...t.3853a54d.htmlI've been hearing that the new park downtown is going to be built similarly like this. Retail shops down on the 1st level and residences on the upper floors of buildings surrounding the park. A water fountain, some restaurants, etc. added also.Thanks for the video. I was looking for it last night.Too bad all this stuff is for rich people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 (edited) Honestly guys, I thought that's where That way you don't have to keep widening the freeways every two years. Houston is projected by the U.S Census Bureau to grow by 3.7 million people in the next 20 years I believe it was. We'll be in a lot of trouble if they don't do something. Name one freeway in Houston that is widened every two yrs. As for double decked freeways, the residents/cities along the katy rejected a decked freeway option. Edited April 7, 2007 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Name one freeway in Houston that is widened every two yrs. As for double decked freeways, the residents/cities along the katy rejected a decked freeway option.Yep, any freeway with an extensive elevated component is usually unpopular to both residents and commercial interests and is also very expensive, so it is usually just unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyc_tex Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Yep, any freeway with an extensive elevated component is usually unpopular to both residents and commercial interests and is also very expensive, so it is usually just unrealistic.Commuter rail is an imperative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txland Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 All I hope for is more places like the Rise/Post in Midtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Commuter rail is an imperative.What would commuter rail do that the Metro buses and HOV lane system can't do at least as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEvilTwin Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 What would commuter rail do that the Metro buses and HOV lane system can't do at least as well? Yikes! Methinks that just might be the comment that makes this thread that's been teetering on the edge go careening down into full-blown hijack mode. City Centre... yes, uh, nice-looking project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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