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Pimp C Found Dead In Hollywood

After an early report from TMZ, sources inside the rapper's label have confirmed that UGK's Pimp C has passed away. TMZ reported that Pimp, real name Chad Butler, was found dead this morning in his room at Hollywood's Mondrian Hotel. After responding to a 911 call, L.A. County Fire found him in his bed. The cause of death is unknown at this point. He was 33 years old.

Pimp C was one of the most influential rappers and producers in hip-hop's history. His work with his partner Bun B in UGK over the last 15 years helped lay the foundations of Southern rap.

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Damn, this is sad. I was in my car listenin to 97.9 yesterday and was shocked at the news hopin it was not true :( Pimp C helped put the south on the map with the UGK sound and as a lyricist and inspired many Houston rappers. Brutha had problems but he was doin big things with the UGK reunion. R.I.P. Pimp C a.k.a Sweet James Jones a.k.a Tony Snow a.k.a. Mick Jagger. U r truly missed and will neva be forgotten.

Edit - The Pimp is free a second time - this time from suffering. :( Condolences to his family, friends and rap partner Bun B. I'm pretty sure Bun's takin it hard.

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My best friend was his school teacher when he was 11 years old and living in Port Arthur. She heard the news of his death last night and was very sad. She said that though its been 22 years she remembered him because he used to talk all the time about music. He always said how much he loved to listen to his dad play the trumpet. I send out prayers to his friends and family.

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David Banner

Keke

Weezy

Flip

Slim Thee

Boosie and Webbie

Killa Kyleon

Gorilla Zoe

J Dawg

DJ Khaled

Ludacris

Cory Mo

King Mello from Ice Age

Wine-O aka Nuwine

Paul Wall

Brook Valentine

Letoya Lucket

Juelz Santana

Snoop

ESG

DJ Drama

and many more all called into 97.9 yesterday.

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What were his lyrics about?

Is this just another way of glorifying someone who represents the problem we were talking about w/ the "black kkk?"

I don't know about his music, so I'm just asking.

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Just saw the title of that album displayed: PIMPALATION.

Nice.

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That's a pretty impressive list.

Did he actually live here in Houston?

Yes.

I couldn't beleve it when I heard it yesterday. I herad people talking about it and I thought they ment to say Big Moe because he recently died. It seems as if there is a curse on Houston rappers. Soooooooooooo many of them have been dropping dead over the years, and they are not being replinished by new Houston artist either. Soon Houston won't have a rap scene. In 2005 when Houston rap went really big nationally, it did so and then it died out quickly after. Why can't Houston keep its music scene up like such places as Atlanta. Atlanta even draws other artist including those from Houston to live there. Why can't Houston create major record labels intown, keep and keep creating artist from its home and attract artist from elsewhere? Well enough of my rant, its all about Pimp C and UGK today.

R.I.P. Pimp C!

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That's because Atlanta is the epicenter of all "urban" music. Remember, Atlanta is the "Capital of the South", and "The Black Capital". Artists just seem to gravitate there.

Houston's rap scene is still basically a curiosity. You hardly hear Paul Wall or Mike Jones in the Southeast, but you hear buttloads of ATL artists everywhere you go.

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Positive role model?

Most people at that age out grow this sort of music. I hope this music was motivational music for the followers, if not he just led more youth straight to TDC. Hopefully it was the opposite, encouraged the less fortunate to better themselves, get educated, and make better for the next generation. I do sympathize for his family of course. He will be missed. -_-

This topic is clearly in wrong section y'all.

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I wouldn't have called Pimp C a lyricist by any means. He was a rather simplistic rapper who, with Bun B and some of their beats, were entertaining and even semi-provocative al a One Day). When I think of lyricists, I think of the Mos Def and Abdominal types (as well as Jay-Z and Lil' Wayne). Those guys put a lot more into their lyrics than Pimp C. It just wasn't Pimp C's style and there is nothing wrong with that.

His music (and that of UGK and much of the rest of Houston) are the trunk rattling while being draped up and dripped out.

Regardless, I have been a fan of UGK since I first heard Drop, Front, Back (still one of my favs). Even if you disagree with his music, it is still sad to see someone with so much potential die. Especially after gaining his freedom and starting over so recently.

I'm really not the sappy type when it comes to celebrities. It always annoyed me that they are almost idolized when they die. They are just people.

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Not kidding at all, Trae. Do you listen to the radio when in the Southeast?

As for the calls to 97.9, they were from other rappers, were they not? Fans outside of Houston most likely don't know about 97.9, and hence, did not call in.

Oh well, your wrong then :). A lot of Houston rappers are known all across the U.S. Everyone who was a fan of rap knew who Pimp C was. UGK (Pimp C and Bun B) is what got groups like OutKast and people like Lil' Wayne and T.I. getting into the rap game. They said it themselves.

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Positive role model?

Most people at that age out grow this sort of music. I hope this music was motivational music for the followers, if not he just led more youth straight to TDC. Hopefully it was the opposite, encouraged the less fortunate to better themselves, get educated, and make better for the next generation.

You never saw "Office Space"? There's an army of gangsta geeks out here. Hip hop never encouraged me to better myself, just like it never lef me to a life of crime. It's just music. If any music could get me to kill, it would probably be Minnie Riperton.

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Yesterday was quite humbling. UGK had to be one of the few rap groups to come out of Houston that I listened on the radio both all throughout high-school, AND on the radio in Korea while I lived there. I also won't forget all the "Free Pimp C" shirts i saw in both Houston and back there whenever I went to the clubs.

BTW, my favorite hip-hop song on the radio this year happened to be a UGK song; "International Player's Anthem" with them and Outkast. The lyrics and beat together were just brilliant IMO.

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Trae, that really has nothing to do with it. I mean, no one's calling the Violent Femmes, Marilyn Manson, or Trent Reznor model citizens, ya know? The guy was a thug. Thugs can be singers, it happens every day. But let's not pretend the man was something he wasn't. If my kids were listening to that crap, I'd have to wonder what else they were doing.

There's no such thing as a "natural" death--just ask Dr.G (an ME on Discovery Health). All deaths point to a malfunction of an organ or system within the body. I think it's remarkable it's being reported in that way without an autopsy yet. If you die in your sleep, it is usually due to stroke or heart attack. At age 33, there ain't much that's natural about that.

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Yeah i heard that this morining on 97.9 the box? I don't understand how he died but i'm guessing it was weight related. Like Citykid said, there's too many Houston legends just dropping off like fleas: Screw, Fat Pat, Big Mo, Hawk to name a few. Sad to say, pretty soon all we're gonna have left is: WHO? MIKE JONES!!!! :(

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Wow, ricco, why the ugliness? Even if you didn't like his music, he was a rapper, not a mass murderer.

Reason being is that I've seen some of his stuff and I pretty much despise a considerable amount of rap because of it's tendency to glorify things that it shouldn't and come up with anything truly original as far as beats, hence the sampling they seem to be constantly doing in their music.

If rap gets away from it's gansta' mentality and actually work FOR some good for the community instead of doing its schtick about drugs, ho's, glorifying cars, drive bys, then talk to me about it later.

For now, a good chunk of them are nothing but opportunists that can't really look into the positive things in life, and don't give me that crap about "keeping it real" or "They only write what they know about" because it's a cop out. A creative mind can think of beauty it can dream of, not just of the ugliness that he sees.

So, the "Whatever" still applies.

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Reason being is that I've seen some of his stuff and I pretty much despise a considerable amount of rap because of it's tendency to glorify things that it shouldn't and come up with anything truly original as far as beats, hence the sampling they seem to be constantly doing in their music.

If rap gets away from it's gansta' mentality and actually work FOR some good for the community instead of doing its schtick about drugs, ho's, glorifying cars, drive bys, then talk to me about it later.

For now, a good chunk of them are nothing but opportunists that can't really look into the positive things in life, and don't give me that crap about "keeping it real" or "They only write what they know about" because it's a cop out. A creative mind can think of beauty it can dream of, not just of the ugliness that he sees.

So, the "Whatever" still applies.

So you comment "Whatever" about a person's death because you don't like their music? I am not defending rap and will not, I don't listen to it. But just because I don't listen to bluegrass doesn't mean I'd comment "Whatever" if Alison Krauss died. I just think that's crude. He was somebody's son and possibly brother and father. So what if I don't like his lyrics that doesn't mean his life is worth less than mine--yet that is what you imply when you comment "Whatever".

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So you comment "Whatever" about a person's death because you don't like their music? I am not defending rap and will not, I don't listen to it. But just because I don't listen to bluegrass doesn't mean I'd comment "Whatever" if Alison Krauss died. I just think that's crude. He was somebody's son and possibly brother and father. So what if I don't like his lyrics that doesn't mean his life is worth less than mine--yet that is what you imply when you comment "Whatever".

Sorry, he's a "whatever", he was a thug. He was charged and convicted for assault.

That hardly put him in the same class of other artists.

He's no angel, but few of us are, but he espoused and practiced his stupidity. Quite frankly, you can call me rascist or whatever, but I just call such a death "Whatever."

As far as your comparing bluegrass to gangsta rap, yeah. Let's hear about all those hillbillies mowing down the people the next mountain over in their pimp mobile.

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Sorry, he's a "whatever", he was a thug. He was charged and convicted for assault.

That hardly put him in the same class of other artists.

He's no angel, but few of us are, but he espoused and practiced his stupidity. Quite frankly, you can call me rascist or whatever, but I just call such a death "Whatever."

As far as your comparing bluegrass to gangsta rap, yeah. Let's hear about all those hillbillies mowing down the people the next mountain over in their pimp mobile.

I did not compare rap to bluegrass, read my post again.

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Sorry, he's a "whatever", he was a thug. He was charged and convicted for assault.

That hardly put him in the same class of other artists.

He's no angel, but few of us are, but he espoused and practiced his stupidity. Quite frankly, you can call me rascist or whatever, but I just call such a death "Whatever."

As far as your comparing bluegrass to gangsta rap, yeah. Let's hear about all those hillbillies mowing down the people the next mountain over in their pimp mobile.

Your post is a "whatever". Just another one of those people who don't care and what to bring up what someone did over four years ago.

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I'm making the comparison of what you brought up. the singer you named would have died, I would have said "bummer" and moved on with my life. She would get a "pity" or something more expressive if she did something meaningful like partake in something positive, did some serious charity work, or did something substantial to stand out.

Pimp C was hardly the model of a man that did much of anything outside of his music that was even remotely positive. Unlike most other genre's he fills out the typical stereotype by trashing his competitors. http://www.ballerstatus.com/article/news/2007/07/2873/

yeah, real upstanding guy.

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I'm making the comparison of what you brought up. the singer you named would have died, I would have said "bummer" and moved on with my life. She would get a "pity" or something more expressive if she did something meaningful like partake in something positive, did some serious charity work, or did something substantial to stand out.

Pimp C was hardly the model of a man that did much of anything outside of his music that was even remotely positive. Unlike most other genre's he fills out the typical stereotype by trashing his competitors. http://www.ballerstatus.com/article/news/2007/07/2873/

yeah, real upstanding guy.

I don't think anyone is debating whether or not this guy was a role model or the most upstanding citizen in America. I guess my whole point is that a life is a life. And generally no one's life is completely worthless. Rare would be the day I would respond "whatever" to anyone's death. My mama taught me better.

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Reason being is that I've seen some of his stuff and I pretty much despise a considerable amount of rap because of it's tendency to glorify things that it shouldn't and come up with anything truly original as far as beats, hence the sampling they seem to be constantly doing in their music.

If rap gets away from it's gansta' mentality and actually work FOR some good for the community instead of doing its schtick about drugs, ho's, glorifying cars, drive bys, then talk to me about it later.

For now, a good chunk of them are nothing but opportunists that can't really look into the positive things in life, and don't give me that crap about "keeping it real" or "They only write what they know about" because it's a cop out. A creative mind can think of beauty it can dream of, not just of the ugliness that he sees.

So, the "Whatever" still applies.

"They only write what they know about" is what makes the good artists great in all genres of music. If you don't rap about the life you grew up with, you get quality music like 'Crank That Soulja Boy," "Laffy Taffy," and "Boom Boom, Shake Shake the Room." That's not bad because people actually dig that as well, but slamming a dude helped put Houston music on the map by using his own style of lyrics after he passes away doesn't make any sense.

The fact is that many people in Houston and worldwide were fans of his, and millions were looking forward to his jail release for him to turn his life back to music with Bun B and UGK. Once that happened and they got back into the studio, it was considered significant to those who enjoy hip-hop. He was a dude that many people were rooting for, and I guess one of the positives of his passing is that before he died, UGK actually made it on top and bigger than ever before. Unfortunately for those that either don't like hip-hop or UGK's lyrics, their music will remain an influence to hip-hop, the entertainment industry, and music from Houston because of their accomplishments on the charts and their grassroots popularity, neither of which are easy to attain in any genre of music.

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They deserved that. Atlanta was coming out with gimmicky crap music (snap your fingers, etc.), that was flooding the airwaves. Pimp C just said what he had to say.

Let's not forget that folks from New York and the rest of the East Coast have been trashing Southern rap, lumpin even the most talented people with the garbage.

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Pimp C was hardly the model of a man that did much of anything outside of his music that was even remotely positive. Unlike most other genre's he fills out the typical stereotype by trashing his competitors. http://www.ballerstatus.com/article/news/2007/07/2873/

yeah, real upstanding guy.

SMH @ the negative comments. If U go back and read the intro post, I said Pimp had his problems but that don't make him no thug (meaning to say that). I can't really judge Pimp anyway regardless because of where he had to grow up - it reflects in the songs put out since then. He had a few motivational songs out too (i.e. Broken Dreams).

And smh @ some of u blaming Pimp for what's wrong with music. If u don't like it, turn the radio off instead of whining about it. It starts in the home, u know.

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This topic is clearly in wrong section y'all.

WHAT? The topic was about a Houston rapper (Port Arthur native rather) who passed on, made news all over the Houston Media, and u gon tell me it was in the wrong sub-forum? I don't cosign with that. SMH

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My best friend was his school teacher when he was 11 years old and living in Port Arthur. She heard the news of his death last night and was very sad. She said that though its been 22 years she remembered him because he used to talk all the time about music. He always said how much he loved to listen to his dad play the trumpet. I send out prayers to his friends and family.

Too bad he couldn't have been a respectable musician like his father.

Wow, ricco, why the ugliness? Even if you didn't like his music, he was a rapper, not a mass murderer.

I'm a day late and a dollar short to this thread, but it seems that multiple times his lyrics have been posted - and then removed, due to graphic content. He may not have committed murder, but his lyrics encouraged it. And what demographic do you think listened and glorified this? Black teenage males. You people don't seem to get it, but one day you'll wake up and realize that rap music is a major crime catalyst. Remove it, and the crime will go down.

Outside of the incident at the mall, what did he do to be labeled "a thug".

He was a gangster rapper that wrote and performed songs degrading women, using and selling drugs, committing crimes, advocating violence, and disrespecting the law. He's not the first, he won't be the last, and yes these messages come in all music formats - but that still doesn't change the fact that he's one of them: a thug.

Good Riddance.

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It's sad when anyone dies, but to mourn b/c this guy was such a great rapper and whose name was PIMP C, is just ridiculous.

How we can go from disucssing the Sean Taylor football situation to this is just beyond me. America is two-faced.

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