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citykid09    146

When ever some one says Clear Lake I think negative thoughts, although I don't think I have ever been there, and I have never seen pictures of it. When I think of Clear Lake I think of it as a poor area, because I know nothing about it, until I saw these pictures, and it made my mind do a 180 about thoughts of Clear Lake. Here they are:

Pictures from Texasboy.

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citykid09    146

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Kemah Boardwalk

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Why don't more people know about this area. When I come to Houston we only go to the west side, now I want to check out that stuff in Clear Lake. I already Knew about The Kemah BoardWalk though.

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kzseattle    0
Where did you get a negative impression from?

My question exactly! Clear Lake is supposed to be a nice area. After all, it is where NASA is as well as its related industry which supports thousands of professionals in the field. Clear Lake is also where you would one of the largest concentrations of pleasure boats in the country.

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citykid09    146

I have always thought of that area as full of refinerys, and polluted, not as a place to visit. I also thought of the are as "country" and swampy, kind of like Louisiana.

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kzseattle    0
I have always thought of that area as full of refinerys, and polluted, not as a place to visit. I also thought of the are as "country" and swampy, kind of like Louisiana.

I know that Texas City has a lot of refineries.

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111486    0

Nice pics. I remember when I use to work at the Boardwalk in Kemah.

citykid09, the refineries you are speaking of are mainly located in Pasadena and Texas city. No kind of relation with Clear Lake.

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UrbaNerd    28

MAN, CL would be nice if it had some denser mixed use developments!

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111486    0
MAN, CL would be nice if it had some denser mixed use developments!

I prefer it not to. It would look nice, but more and more people are being attracted to these dense urban developments in the suburbs such as Sugar Land Town Square, which creates sprawl and moves people away from the inner city.

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skwatra    371
i have commuted there for graduate school for the past 3 years and i think clear lake is extremely dull.

clear lake is pretty dull, centered around NASA so you have a bunch of middle class families, what do you expect?

i would much rather live downtown/midtown but i couldn't handle the commute everyday (many of my coworkers my age feel the same way), plus i have an apartment on the lake for half the price i would pay in town, so i make the trek on the weekend to actually have fun.

but there are no refineries, its pretty nice overall, except for the fact that the lake is connected to the gulf.

i can't wait for them to get NASA Parkway done, that'll make life easier down here.

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midtown 4.2    0

Clear Lake used to be crystal clear. Sea grass used to cover the bottom at one time, and helped keep the sediment down. When small trawlers started working in there, and draging their nets on the bottom, the grass was damaged and have not had a chance to reestablish itself.

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kzseattle    0
Clear Lake used to be crystal clear. Sea grass used to cover the bottom at one time, and helped keep the sediment down. When small trawlers started working in there, and draging their nets on the bottom, the grass was damaged and have not had a chance to reestablish itself.

Isnt the lake really an extension of the Gulf and so has always been connected to the Gulf? If so, how could it be crystal clear given that the water in the Gulf isnt clear. By the way, looking at the pictures, water really doesnt seem brown. It isnt clear, of course, but I thought that it's as brown and muddy as flood water and it surely isnt like that (unless the pictures didnt capture the true colors)

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Lowbrow    2

Go look at historical maps and you will see that Clear Lake used to have much less of a connection to Galveston Bay than it has now. Subsidence and sea level rise at work.

I'm sure its always been at least brackish though.

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skwatra    371
By the way, looking at the pictures, water really doesnt seem brown. It isnt clear, of course, but I thought that it's as brown and muddy as flood water and it surely isnt like that (unless the pictures didnt capture the true colors)

depending on the angle of the sun light, it can look ok. its pretty brown in reality. but its actually a healthy lake overall, and we still enjoy it.

here's a bunch of pics, you can see how different it can look from mid-day to sunset...

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MidtownCoog    3
Isnt the lake really an extension of the Gulf and so has always been connected to the Gulf?

You have to go through the Bay before you can reach the Gulf.

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musicman    178
clear lake is pretty dull, centered around NASA so you have a bunch of middle class families, what do you expect?

i would much rather live downtown/midtown but i couldn't handle the commute everyday (many of my coworkers my age feel the same way), plus i have an apartment on the lake for half the price i would pay in town, so i make the trek on the weekend to actually have fun.

i can't wait for them to get NASA Parkway done, that'll make life easier down here.

It is extremely boring in clear lake. Traffic is horrible as i commute from Houston daily. Even their Cafe Express has a reduced menu. I will say point blank there are only two restraurants that are good. The rest are basic chains. Try heading down to Kemah on the weekend....you'll NEVER return cause traffic is absolutely horrible. And all you're doing is going to a Joe's crab shack!

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clear lake is pretty dull, centered around NASA so you have a bunch of middle class families, what do you expect?

i would much rather live downtown/midtown but i couldn't handle the commute everyday (many of my coworkers my age feel the same way), plus i have an apartment on the lake for half the price i would pay in town, so i make the trek on the weekend to actually have fun.

but there are no refineries, its pretty nice overall, except for the fact that the lake is connected to the gulf.

i can't wait for them to get NASA Parkway done, that'll make life easier down here.

Does anyone have a map showing where this new road will go. I am having a hard time visualizing it.

I have some friends that live in Clear Lake. They like it allright, but they work downthere are not into commuting. An old work friend takes the bus in every morning and it takes her an hour. That is too much if you ask me.

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musicman    178
Does anyone have a map showing where this new road will go.  I am having a hard time visualizing it.   

Eventually it will go from gulf freeway (south of nasa road one near the fry's), head east towards nasa. go over old galveston and then merge with nasa rd 1 between old galveston and el camino (near the mamacita's restaurant). massive construction is underway.

BUT money has NOT been allotted to create entry/exit ramps to the gulf freeway. therefore southbound 45 traffic will have to go to 518 and u turn. This is phase 2. That's TXDOT for ya.

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Eventually it will go from gulf freeway (south of nasa road one near the fry's), head east towards nasa. go over old galveston and then merge with nasa rd 1 between old galveston and el camino (near the mamacita's restaurant).  massive construction is underway.

BUT money has NOT been allotted to create entry/exit ramps to the gulf freeway.  therefore southbound 45 traffic will have to go to 518 and u turn.  This is phase 2.  That's TXDOT for ya.

Thanks. That helps. Is there any talk of building a Tollway similar to the Westpark, Hardy, or Ft Bend.

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skwatra    371
Eventually it will go from gulf freeway (south of nasa road one near the fry's), head east towards nasa. go over old galveston and then merge with nasa rd 1 between old galveston and el camino (near the mamacita's restaurant).  massive construction is underway.

it actually is suppose to merge back with NASA 1 east of Egret Bay, so someplace in between El Camino and Saturn (close to the JSC entrance). The major bottleneck is at El Camino westbound, so i hope this remains the plan.

I live on NASA 1, and if I need to go downtown between 5-7 i just take Space Center all the way to Genoa-Red Bluff (newly extended), to Beltway 8 to 45N. There's basically no traffic this way, though the speed limits are lower.

And I work on that end of Space Center, from there i can get to UH Main in 20 minutes, maybe 25 at 5pm.

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it actually is suppose to merge back with NASA 1 east of Egret Bay, so someplace in between El Camino and Saturn (close to the JSC entrance). The major bottleneck is at El Camino westbound, so i hope this remains the plan.

I live on NASA 1, and if I need to go downtown between 5-7 i just take Space Center all the way to Genoa-Red Bluff (newly extended), to Beltway 8 to 45N. There's basically no traffic this way, though the speed limits are lower.

And I work on that end of Space Center, from there i can get to UH Main in 20 minutes, maybe 25 at 5pm.

That is going the opposite direction of most people at that time. How long would it take you to get from Downtown to that same spot in Clear Lake at 5pm?

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skwatra    371
That is going the opposite direction of most people at that time.  How long would it take you to get from Downtown to that same spot in Clear Lake at 5pm?

i usually make my schedule so i don't have to do that, but when i use to have class in the late afternoon i would take the 5:24 bus from eastwoood transit (just south of downtown on 45 walkable from UH) to the Bay Area park and ride (right in the middle of clear lake) which gets there at 5:56. so 32 minutes, but more like 40-45 if i drive because i can't take the HOV lane. but between not needing a parking permit, gas, and traffic the bus worked out much better that semester.

i'm tempted to move to midtown just to be able to actually live in the city, my commute would always be against traffic. but its still quite a commute, and so much more expensive to live there. i pay $580 for an 800 sq ft apartment on the lake with a hot tub/pool, dock, and courtyard with bbq. don't think i could find that downtown...

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musicman    178
it actually is suppose to merge back with NASA 1 east of Egret Bay, so someplace in between El Camino and Saturn (close to the JSC entrance). The major bottleneck is at El Camino westbound, so i hope this remains the plan.

The merge will be between old galveston and el camino according to txdot, right where they are building the elevated section now across from mamacita's. From this point i believe it is at ground level again and then as it approaches el camino another overpass will be constructed so that the el camino light won't be a factor anymore and this last overpass will then merge with the new portion of nasa rd 1 that is completed.

The worst part is....during construction some portions of nasa rd 1 will be down to 1 lane. pack a lunch.

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ncstdc    0

I am not a fan of CL... atleast not right now since I'm only 23. It is the epitome of middle-class surbian life. Though I will probably be living there in about 10 years to raise my 2.4 kids. So now, I make the long 30 mile commute there every day, ugh.

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J.A.S.O.N.    5

CL & Seabrook are simply beautiful imo. Some of those houses on the water are breathtaking. It would be my first place of choice to reside, as far as Houston suburbs go.

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Gary    223
clear lake is pretty dull, centered around NASA so you have a bunch of middle class families, what do you expect?

i would much rather live downtown/midtown but i couldn't handle the commute everyday (many of my coworkers my age feel the same way), plus i have an apartment on the lake for half the price i would pay in town, so i make the trek on the weekend to actually have fun.

but there are no refineries, its pretty nice overall, except for the fact that the lake is connected to the gulf.

i can't wait for them to get NASA Parkway done, that'll make life easier down here.

Clear Lake/Kemah is nowhere neer dull if you have a little money. I have a friend who lives in Kemah right off the boardwalk (Kip st) and I have a blast everytime I'm there. On top of that it's a very clean area.

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kzseattle    0
CL & Seabrook are simply beautiful imo.  Some of those houses on the water are breathtaking.  It would be my first place of choice to reside, as far as Houston suburbs go.

Does Clear Lake area has zoning? I know it's part of Houston but it didn

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kzseattle    0
it relies on the original deeds as to what can happen on the land.  right now there's a big ruckus about converting the old golf course into townhomes.  the new owner of the course said he's not making money so he went to friendswood dev to get them to change the original deed.  residents are angry and circulating petitions.  Traffic is bad down there now, all these new townhomes will only exaserbate the problem.  much of the golf course also drains the area so many residents are worried that their homes will flood.

Well, it good to know they have some deed restrictions. Thanks for the info!

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Gary    223
it relies on the original deeds as to what can happen on the land.  right now there's a big ruckus about converting the old golf course into townhomes.  the new owner of the course said he's not making money so he went to friendswood dev to get them to change the original deed.  residents are angry and circulating petitions.  Traffic is bad down there now, all these new townhomes will only exaserbate the problem.  much of the golf course also drains the area so many residents are worried that their homes will flood.

That's the one thing I don't like about the area, alot of traffic.

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kzseattle    0
That's the one thing I don't like about the area, alot of traffic.

I was talking to a colleagues of mine today who lives in CL. I asked him whether CL is similar Sugarland. He said he liked CL because it is quieter whereas Sugarland has more traffic. Now, I am not sure which is it: lot of traffic or quite.

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musicman    178

it's ok...but remember, the pasadena KKK group from the 70's moved down to the seabrook kemah/santa fe area. We went to a restaurant down there a few years ago (4 or so) and i had noticed how EVERYONE in the restaurant was caucasian. What's the likelyhood of that in Houston??? Another person in the group a guess started speaking loudly, before i knew it, the waitress, left us a note written on a napkin saying "watch out they are all around you" Talk about someone who was shocked! Our secretary from work is from there and she confirmed my suspicions about the KKK. So i personally don't go out after dark down there.

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musicman    178
KKK in 2005...in Seabrook!?!? :huh: If this is indeed true, then how disappointingly sad. :(

when they moved out of Pasadena in the 80's....they just went a little further south. i'm not saying there are burning crosses or anything like that, but the mentality is surprisingly alive and well in the area.

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skwatra    371
Clear Lake/Kemah is nowhere neer dull if you have a little money. I have a friend who lives in Kemah right off the boardwalk (Kip st) and I have a blast everytime I'm there. On top of that it's a very clean area.

we enjoy going to clubs, ballgames, stuff like that. we have fun in clear lake, but you can't argue with the fact that if you live there, you're living in the definition of suburbia. the boardwalk is fun (but is deserted by 10-11 every night, more aimed towards families), and there are some great neighborhood bars, with molly's being my favorite, but the feel you get from living here is just dull, at least to me.

my coworker just moved to midtown, his commute is 22 minutes. i think i

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skwatra    371
KKK in 2005...in Seabrook!?!? :huh: If this is indeed true, then how disappointingly sad. :(

i live in seabrook, right at the edge on NASA 1 closer to clear lake. if you head east towards seabrook, it does get increasingly caucasian, and the texas stereotypes start kicking in. something you rarely see as you head into houston. but the people are really nice, and i've never had any problems in my 3 years here. if it really is there, i hope i never see it

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pineda    2

(This was written by Peter Brown, AIA, for the Galveston Bay Preservation Society on the impacts of Bayport Terminal upon the surrounding communities. As much as I've always liked that area, the KKK presence is definitely not a plus, and I wouldn't recommend anyone to move there, especially people looking to retire by the shore, until the whole Bayport Terminal thing is completed.)

"Potential Land Use Impacts of the Proposed Bayport Facility

The proposed Bayport heavy industrial facility, in terms of commonly accepted national planning standards, published by the American Planning Association, the American Institute of Architects, and the American Institute of Landscape Architects, is a highly incompatible land use in a predominately residential/recreational area.

The anticipated adverse impacts are in three areas:

The Core Impact Area.

In the "Core" impact area, are those established residential neighborhoods (El Jardin del Mar, Seabrook, Shoreacres, and the southern part of La Porte) directly affected by the presence of a large industrial facility, particularly those neighborhoods in direct contact with noise, glare, traffic (primarily truck) congestion and shipping traffic. The likely impacts include declining property values, environmental nuisances (air pollution, smoke, glare, noise) and traffic congestion.

The Primary Impact Area

The primary impact area includes the portion east of Highway 146 from Morgan

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midtown 4.2    0

I can't let the KKK comments go unchallenged. I'm Asian, and I grew up in CLC. I have never felt unwelcomed there. In fact I have never even noticed any sign of racism. Granted, 25 years ago, Seabrook and Kemah used to be composed of blue-collar fishing and petrochemical families. To negatively paint the entire region with a broad stroke is doing injustice to the majority of families there.

Some fantastic communities to check out:

Bay Oaks (consistantly listed as one of the top communities nationwide).

Northfork

Nassau Bay

Taylor Lake Village

South Shore Harbor

New exclusive communities in Seabrook.

I've moved to Midtown, but my parents and extended family still live in CLC. IN CLC, I see all races . . . lots of Indians (South Asian), Vietnamese, Philippinos, Middle Easterns, and of course Blacks, Whites, and Hispanics. . . and NO I have not seen any burning crosses.

I live in the innerloop, and prefer that kind of lifestyle. If I had to pick a 'burb, CLC would be my choice.

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Gary    223
we enjoy going to clubs, ballgames, stuff like that. we have fun in clear lake, but you can't argue with the fact that if you live there, you're living in the definition of suburbia. the boardwalk is fun (but is deserted by 10-11 every night, more aimed towards families), and there are some great neighborhood bars, with molly's being my favorite, but the feel you get from living here is just dull, at least to me.

my coworker just moved to midtown, his commute is 22 minutes. i think i

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Gary    223
I was talking to a colleagues of mine today who lives in CL. I asked him whether CL is similar Sugarland. He said he liked CL because it is quieter whereas Sugarland has more traffic. Now, I am not sure which is it: lot of traffic or quite.

Clear Lake, Kemah and Seabrook can get pretty bad at times. Some of it depends on where you live. it can actually be a real pain in the butt getting into town if you live in Kemah or Seabrook, especially on a Saturday or Sunday.

Although the area in question is deffinately more quiet than SL, I don't find SL that bad with traffic except at 6 and 90. Alot of times I drive through from Katy right at rush hour and generally don't have big problems. Of course that whole issue changes if your coming from in town on the Southwest freeway.

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skwatra    371
I can't let the KKK comments go unchallenged. I'm Asian, and I grew up in CLC. I have never felt unwelcomed there. In fact I have never even noticed any sign of racism. Granted, 25 years ago, Seabrook and Kemah used to be composed of blue-collar fishing and petrochemical families. To negatively paint the entire region with a broad stroke is doing injustice to the majority of families there.

agree, clear lake is very diverse, and nice. i was just saying it gets pretty white as you head towards seabrook and kemah. but i've never had any problems, the people are all really nice. grew up there as well, and loved it.

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skwatra    371

some pictures i took from the air of NASA and Clear Lake:

NASA (you can kinda see the Saturn V rocket at the bottom left corner of NASA)

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Clear Lake, Nassau Bay, South Shore Harbour, El Lago and Seabrook

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Gary    223
some pictures i took from the air of NASA and Clear Lake:

NASA (you can kinda see the Saturn V rocket at the bottom left corner of NASA)

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Clear Lake, Nassau Bay, South Shore Harbour, El Lago and Seabrook

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Those are stinkin cool pics!

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