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My brother waited in line for 3 hours in SF to put his refundable deposit down (i guess if you went in person you got earlier in the delivery queue).

If Texas would include this model in the $2500 tax incentive this model would be $35K minus $7.5K federal incentive plus a potential state incentive.

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But the federal tax incentive starts quickly falling apart after 200,000 cars are sold. With 115,000 last announced, there's only one quarter after 200,000 cars where the tax incentive stays in place.

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So Mercedes-Benz is bringing back the SEC model name of the 80s and 90s by basically, putting the front and rear of an S-class coupe to an S-class sedan and having a car that will in essence, be like a big CLS.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/4/7/Mercedes-Is-Bringing-Back-The-SEC-Name-In-A-Big-Way-7732935/

 

I wouldn't have brought back the SEC model name to a car that isn't a coupe. I don't care, 4 doors isn't a coupe! But, since the CLx naming scheme seems to be reserved for those 4-door MB vehicles with sleek, couple style roofs (CLA, CLS), this is what I would do. Keep the CLA name for the small car. Rename the present CLS "CLE" with the E denoting its E-class size, and applying the CLS name to the biggest car, denoting its S-class size.

 

This isn't the first time Mercedes-Benz will apply an old name to a new car that's pretty removed from the car that bore the original name. They brought back the SLC name as a new name for the little two-seater SLK roadster this model year. The original SLC was a two door hardtop with a normal rear seat based on the 107 chassis SL built from 1971 to 1981. There's a connection to the SLC and SEC model names as the original SEC replaced the SLC in 1981. During the second generation (140 chassis), the SEC became the S-class coupe in 1993, and then was renamed CL-class around 1998. A few years ago, the CL-class became the S-class coupe again. Not to be a crotchety old man, but it was easier to keep up with MBs when all you had was the 190, 240D, 300D/CD/TD, 300SD, 380SE/SEL, 380SL, and 500SEL. When you heard those model names, you knew for the most part what size the car was, the engine size, and the fuel type. Now, we're in a day where Mercedes-Benz sells two SUVs called the GLE, but one is referred to as a coupe despite having 4 doors! I guess I'll go yell at a cloud.

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The SEC Mercedes should become the defacto car of good football, and should be advertised as such - for the 40-50 something successful college grads looking at mid life crisis-es 

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I got to drive a Cadillac CT6 last Saturday during Cadillac's Truth + Dare event at NRG. I also had a chance to try some of their other offerings like the ATS-V coupe which is a pure rocket! The CT6 is the new flagbearer and the first big rear wheel drive vehicle from them in 20 years. It's almost as big as a Mercedes-Benz S-class yet lighter than a CTS due to its aluminum construction. You can feel its featherweight while putting it into a curve. On the ramp from 610E to 288S, I kept the speed up and it felt like a lighter car and handled well. I also got to ride in an XT5 which will likely be Caddy's bread and butter vehicle over the next few years given the popularity of its SRX predecessor. The XT5 felt like a highly optioned Chevy to me. The CT6 didn't have that feeling, and that's good. I hope the CT6 does well and I'm hoping GM will offer a 4.2L twin turbo V8 down the line as they've promised and not chicken out.

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2017 Alfa Romeo Stelvio

 

The headlamps are enormous, but this thing is very menacing with its aggressive front end and powerful engine. Much better than it's somewhat-related Italian rival, the Maserati Levante. 

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/11/alfa-romeo-stelvio-qv-promises-to-be.html?m=1

 

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2017 Honda CR-V

 

Honda's gaining their mojo back. Handsome design with a turbo under the hood.

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/10/all-new-2017-honda-cr-v-gets-190hp.html?m=1

 

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To my eyes Alfa has consistently had nicer designs than any other manufacturer.  Too bad they never quite got the quality thing down.

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8 hours ago, Subdude said:

To my eyes Alfa has consistently had nicer designs than any other manufacturer.  Too bad they never quite got the quality thing down.

 

What was that old joke about Hell being where the British were the cooks, the Germans were the lovers, the Italians the engineers, etc...?

 

Or, the Italians were so eager to advance their auto industry that they licensed the process of rust from Karmann, and gained their electrical chops from Joseph Lucas (aka the Prince of Darkness)?

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Alfa design, for sure - to me, that Honda CRV is still the same uninspired CRV I've always seen, though..

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On 11/17/2016 at 0:47 AM, Urbannizer said:

2017 Alfa Romeo Stelvio

 

The headlamps are enormous, but this thing is very menacing with its aggressive front end and powerful engine. Much better than it's somewhat-related Italian rival, the Maserati Levante. 

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/11/alfa-romeo-stelvio-qv-promises-to-be.html?m=1

 

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When discussion of this "new Alfa" ensued on another forum I'm on, someone groused that Fiat Chrysler Automobiles was coming out with "a mid-size SUV with a snake eating a guy on it", but it clearly wasn't an Alfa, as there hadn't been an Alfa Romeo built since 1986. 

 

Personally, I'm not ready to throw the latter-day entity that goes by the name Alfa Romeo that far under the bus, but as someone who owned a pre-1986 Alfa, I can appreciate the sentiment behind that statement.  

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1 hour ago, Subdude said:

Nice looking.  It's interesting that electric cars usually retain some designed facsimile of grills.

 

The grills allow some airflow across the battery container (at least on my Leaf it does). They also have the AC radiator.

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I really like the Stinger.  It reminds me of a Maserati Quattroporte somehow.  And I like that they didn't go with yet another alphanumeric name.  

 

The Camry I don't get.  This is supposed to be a regular ol' car for regular ol' people, and yet Toyota keeps trying to push the styling envelope with it.  My guess is that the typical Camry buyer would be perfectly content with a sedate, boring design.  That is the Camry heritage.  

 

The LS is OK, but that grill and front end just don't work.  

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14 hours ago, Subdude said:

The Camry I don't get.  This is supposed to be a regular ol' car for regular ol' people, and yet Toyota keeps trying to push the styling envelope with it.  My guess is that the typical Camry buyer would be perfectly content with a sedate, boring design.  That is the Camry heritage.  

 

Camrys are anodyne appliances for people whose attitude toward driving falls somewhere on the continuum between indifference and outright hatred. Once autonomous cars become truly ready for prime time, they will take a big bite out of the Camry target market. 

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Even with the hyper/overdesigned Camry, it's still stodgy - and the grill now makes it looks like it has an annoyed, pursed mouth. The Lexus is just a costlier extension of that.

 

 

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Looks like Houston will be getting its first automobile company based from here and built here.  

 

Electric car maker Lumen Motors coming in 2018.

 

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Was on the news back in September

 

 

 

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2018 Honda Accord

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/07/2018-honda-accord-unveiled-with.html?m=1

 

Don't like the lower portion of the grille but the front end is growing on me.

 

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Some traces of Chevy Impala on its side.

 

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Chevy Impala look more pronounced in the rear, with Subaru tailights.

 

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Nice interior but they could've gone further, I think it will become outdated rather quickly.

 

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Honda did great with the new Civic, but didn't carry that greatness over to its larger sibling. For the first time I prefer the looks of the (upcoming) Camry over the Accord.

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2 minutes ago, Urbannizer said:

2018 Honda Accord

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/07/2018-honda-accord-unveiled-with.html?m=1

 

Don't like the lower portion of the grille but the front end is growing on me.

 

2018-honda-accord-1.jpg

 

Some traces of Chevy Impala on its side.

 

15%20-%202018%20Honda%20Accord%20Touring

 

 

Chevy Impala look more pronounced in the rear, with Subaru tailights.

 

2018-honda-accord-inline2-photo-685810-s

 

Nice interior but they could've gone further, I think it will become outdated rather quickly.

 

1500051583174-19-2018hondaaccordtouring.

 

Honda did great with the new Civic, but didn't carry that greatness over to its larger sibling. For the first time I prefer the looks of the (upcoming) Camry over the Accord.

Everybody is going for the fastback look these days with the kinda-sorta opera window in the c-pillar. This also marks the end of the non-luxury/non-muscle/midsize coupe as Honda's discontinued the Accord coupe for 2018. 

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17 hours ago, JLWM8609 said:

Everybody is going for the fastback look these days with the kinda-sorta opera window in the c-pillar. This also marks the end of the non-luxury/non-muscle/midsize coupe as Honda's discontinued the Accord coupe for 2018. 

 

They have also discontinued the V6 engines for the Accord for 2018 in favor of turbo fours. Similarly, after many years of US enthusiasts slobbering over multiple generations of the Civic Type R that were never made available in the US domestic market, they finally decide to sell the new-generation Type R here, but in place of the hyper-tuned, high-revving naturally aspirated engine that was the model's hallmark, the new one has a turbo four (although at 300hp a lot of people probably won't miss the old NA engines too much). The fact that some of these changes were likely driven by the need to meet ever-tightening mileage and emissions standards don't make them any easier to swallow. 

 

I miss the days when Honda set benchmarks for engineering. Their current Formula 1 engine program is an unmitigated disaster, and the current product line just isn't that interesting or exciting. 

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On 7/15/2017 at 4:31 PM, mkultra25 said:

 

They have also discontinued the V6 engines for the Accord for 2018 in favor of turbo fours. Similarly, after many years of US enthusiasts slobbering over multiple generations of the Civic Type R that were never made available in the US domestic market, they finally decide to sell the new-generation Type R here, but in place of the hyper-tuned, high-revving naturally aspirated engine that was the model's hallmark, the new one has a turbo four (although at 300hp a lot of people probably won't miss the old NA engines too much). The fact that some of these changes were likely driven by the need to meet ever-tightening mileage and emissions standards don't make them any easier to swallow. 

 

I miss the days when Honda set benchmarks for engineering. Their current Formula 1 engine program is an unmitigated disaster, and the current product line just isn't that interesting or exciting. 

 

honestly, the Integra Type R was the last Honda of any note that was worthy of... note. I guess the NSX soldiered on until 2005.

 

now they (Honda and Acura) are just mediocre pretty good at everything type of car.

 

Well, I take that back, if I had to get a minivan, the Odyssey is where it's at.

 

All that said, a well tuned turbo 4 is much better than a v6. more efficient, more power, smaller packaging, lighter weight. just overall better.

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 9:07 AM, DahanaWell said:

I bought a second-hand used Honda civic 2016,but with poor wheels.
I thought to take Honda native, but damn they are so expensive. Advise good wheels please.
DW

 

Interesting first post.  Try TireRack.com (link below), or if you're in to potentially sketchy deals, craigslist. 

 

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/results.jsp?autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Civic+Sedan&autoYear=2016&autoModClar=EX&package=false

 

 

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On 7/2/2018 at 0:53 PM, Nate99 said:

 

Interesting first post.  Try TireRack.com (link below), or if you're in to potentially sketchy deals, craigslist. 

 

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/results.jsp?autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Civic+Sedan&autoYear=2016&autoModClar=EX&package=false

 

 

 

If you're not opposed to refurbished as opposed to new wheels, I've had good luck at Wheels America's Houston location - much cheaper than new OEM wheels from the dealer, and hard to tell that they're not actually new. If they don't have the wheel you need in inventory locally, they can usually source it from one of their other locations.

 

https://wheelsamerica.com/locations/houston/

 

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12 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

Drove the Porsche GT3 today

 

 

Vroom Vroom Vroom

 

Pics or it didn't happen. :-)

 

(j/k, I realize your boss might not take kindly to pics of his cars being posted)

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Went to one of his dealerships/shops and was pointed out this near $4 million Aston Martin. Think they said there is only 18 in existence?

 

Edit: $4 million for a car? Rarity I guess..

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19 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

Went to one of his dealerships/shops and was pointed out this near $4 million Aston Martin. Think they said there is only 18 in existence?

 

Edit: $4 million for a car? Rarity I guess..

 

 

That looks like a DB4GT Zagato. Not exactly a common car by any means, but there are plenty of other cars that are worth far more than $4 million. A Ferrari GTO just sold at Monterey in August for $48 million. That's a pretty extreme example, though, as the GTO is arguably the most desirable collector car out there, and the hammer price set a new record for a car sold at auction.
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBp9QmDFTfY

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