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I would get any of the Phaeton's competitors than the Phaeton. Over 8 years of the Phaeton, it was great when it was released, but little design change inside and out. Its a boring design now.

I was never a big fan of the Phaeton, but I couldn't stand that every review of it the writer would question why a manufacturer whose name means "People's Car" was making a luxury vehicle. As if the brand name were relevant.

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I was never a big fan of the Phaeton, but I couldn't stand that every review of it the writer would question why a manufacturer whose name means "People's Car" was making a luxury vehicle. As if the brand name were relevant.

Well it kinda does... depends on what their strategy is...

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2012 Hyundai Accent ( Verna in China )

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Power is slated to come from either a 1.4- or 1.6-liter inline-four, producing 106 horsepower and 120 hp, respectively, with a standard five-speed manual gearbox or four-speed automatic. Expect the U.S. version to come packing the larger four-pot when it goes on sale early next year

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/23/beijing-2010-2011-hyundai-accent-debuts-as-verna-across-the-pac/

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Gran Coupe ( 2012 6-Series, 4-Door Coupe Sedan)

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For years, German media reports have suggested the new 6-Series will be offered in two- and four-door varieties. While it’s not known if the Concept Gran Coupe is intended for production, the vehicle is a clear answer to the Mercedes-Benz CLS.

BMW is keeping quite on any production plans for the Gran Coupe, but an announcement could be made as early as this fall’s Paris Motor Show.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-concept-gran-coupe.html

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Gran Coupe ( 2012 6-Series, 4-Door Coupe Sedan)

Not bad looking at all.

Mercedes CLS 'Shooting Break' concept:

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Mercedes and BMW used to be known for relatively restrained designs. Now they seem to have swung to the opposite pole with overstyled things like this.

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True. The days of Bruno Sacco and Paul Bracq are long gone.

In all fairness BMW has pulled it back a bit with the latest 5- and 7-Series, both of which are more elegant than their predecessors. Buy a Mercedes larded up with styling cliches like that though, and in five years it is just going to look dated.

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Urbannizer you must really dig some Hyundai and Kia! I never thought I would be so educated about their upcoming models, but you make sure I am.

Lol I do. Their line up of vehicles are being redesigned ; new models are being added. Kias and Hyundais are looking better than they ever did before.

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Lol I do. Their line up of vehicles are being redesigned ; new models are being added. Kias and Hyundais are looking better than they ever did before.

I wonder where their quality stands in relation to other manufactuereressreres.

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Ford kills Mercury to expand Lincoln lineup

by Steven J. Ewing on Jun 2nd 2010 at 4:00PM

Over the last ten years, Mercury's sales numbers have plummeted, and currently, the brand only accounts for 0.8 percent of Ford Motor Company's overall market share. In a press conference this afternoon with Mark Fields, Ford's president of the Americas, and Derrick Kuzak, group vice president of product development, the automaker has officially announced that Mercury will be discontinued in the fourth quarter of this year.

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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/02/ford-kills-mercury-to-expand-lincoln/

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2011 Vokswagen Polo

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Volkswagen finally unveiled its new sub-compact Polo sedan in Moscow today, billing it as the first ever VW developed specifically for the Russian market. While Russia may be the first market for the trunked Polo, it isn't likely to have an exclusive on it for long. The Polo sedan is expected to make its way to North America within the next 12 months as part of VW's drive to expand its sales here to 800,000 units a year by 2018.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/02/officially-official-2011-volkswagen-polo-sedan-unveiled-in-russ/

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So I saw the new Rolls Royce Ghost on the street.

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My first reaction was "Hey! That's the new Roller!" My second reaction was "It's got really big door handles!"

Have'nt seen one in person yet but, after looking at reviews; pictures of the Ghost, I like it a lot. Its better than the Phantom and its selling well.

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Have'nt seen one in person yet but, after looking at reviews; pictures of the Ghost, I like it a lot. Its better than the Phantom and its selling well.

Selling well by Rolls Royce standards, I presume you mean. You're not likely to see many in the mall parking lot.

It is a very handsome car though. The proportions are great, and they didn't go overboard with the current overwrought design cliches like, say, Mercedes. Just to prove my geekhood, I did take a picture when I passed it.

And how about this?

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^The Bugatti Veyron, its to wide and the grill is shaped in and odd way. I do like how part of the side of the vehicle goes inward under the door. All in all its okay, I would'nt buy one if I had the $$$. Its to sporty and high performance for my taste.

I do like, the Bugatti 16C Galiber. Its a concept as of now but it may go into production.

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^The Bugatti Veyron, its to wide and the grill is shaped in and odd way. I do like how part of the side of the vehicle goes inward under the door. All in all its okay, I would'nt buy one if I had the $$. Its to sporty and high performance for my taste.

I do like, the Bugatti 16C Galiber. Its a concept as of now but it may go into production.

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But is it good enough for nice short drives along the gulf, and is there a floating option? :)

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^The Bugatti Veyron, its to wide and the grill is shaped in and odd way. I do like how part of the side of the vehicle goes inward under the door. All in all its okay, I would'nt buy one if I had the $$$. Its to sporty and high performance for my taste.

I tend to agree, but I would add that it comes off much better in person than in photos. If you are going to pop $1.7m for a car it's safe to assume you want something pretty dramatic.

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2011 Honda Odyssey

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The 2011 Odyssey is lower and wider than the outgoing model, and features what Honda is calling a "lightning bolt" beltline, a feature that was present on the concept van that we saw in Chicago. We aren't sure if we're in love with that quirky design element, but one thing's for sure, you won't see the origami fold and stepped greenhouse on any other minivan in the shopping mall parking lot. Other new features for the 2011 model year include available HID headlamps up front, new 18-inch alloy wheels, larger 12.6-inch ventilated front disc brakes, revised side mirrors and a power tailgate. Honda has yet to release full performance specs, but we do know that there's a 3.5-liter i-VTEC V6 under the hood, and early estimates state that the top-trim Odyssey Touring Elite should achieve 19 miles per gallon in the city and 28 mpg(!) on the highway.

Inside, Honda has made the most of the Odyssey's extra width, offering an additional inch of shoulder room in the front row. What's most interesting, though, are the three second-row seat configurations, including an all-new wide mode which allows the two side captains chairs to be pulled away from the center seat, meaning three child car seats can fit all across one row. Again, the Odyssey hasn't really done anything innovative with its interior packaging, but new features like a chilled cool box in the front center console, HDMI (high-definition multimedia interface) input, 16.2-inch widescreen entertainment system, 15 upholders and a trash bag holder (yep!) will make the cabin more attractive to consumers who need one heck of an all-around family hauler.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/17/2011-honda-odyssey-revealed-gallery-minivan-video/

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Not bad as mini-vans go.....although the window kink / sliding-door cut line looks very strange to me....almost like the camper shell sitting on top of a pickup truck bed...

Honda has lost its way design-wise, particularly when it comes to the front ends of most of their lineup. The Civic and the Fit are OK, but the Accord and Odyssey front ends are far from attractive. And the less said about the same feature on Acuras, the better.

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Honda has lost its way design-wise, particularly when it comes to the front ends of most of their lineup.

The chatter out there in blog-land has been that Honda lost its way not just in design, but overall. They made their reputation with cleanly designed, well-engineered cars, but then drifted off to make garish, big-for-the-sake-of-big, boats (Crosstour, Accord).

Autoblog on Honda

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The chatter out there in blog-land has been that Honda lost its way not just in design, but overall. They made their reputation with cleanly designed, well-engineered cars, but then drifted off to make garish, big-for-the-sake-of-big, boats (Crosstour, Accord).

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I would agree with most of those sentiments. I think most of the blame can be attributed to the fact that Honda executive leadership used to come up almost exclusively through the ranks of engineering as opposed to finance. That hasn't been the case for quite some time.

Big cars have their place, but not at the expense of forgetting what got Honda its reputation in the first place - small, well-engineered, high-quality cars. I've owned quite a few Hondas over the past 20+ years. I own two now, and they are 11 and 10 years old respectively. Hondas used to clearly distinguish themselves from the pack, but there isn't nearly as much that I find appealing in the newer ones.

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I would agree with most of those sentiments. I think most of the blame can be attributed to the fact that Honda executive leadership used to come up almost exclusively through the ranks of engineering as opposed to finance. That hasn't been the case for quite some time.

Big cars have their place, but not at the expense of forgetting what got Honda its reputation in the first place - small, well-engineered, high-quality cars. I've owned quite a few Hondas over the past 20+ years. I own two now, and they are 11 and 10 years old respectively. Hondas used to clearly distinguish themselves from the pack, but there isn't nearly as much that I find appealing in the newer ones.

It's been a long time coming. Back in the 1990s I had a friend who kept pointing out how each generation of Honda was larger and more luxurious than the previous. He predicted that Hondas would end up being what Oldsmobiles and Buicks were for our parent's generation: respectable luxobarges for the middle classes. I think he got it right.

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It's been a long time coming. Back in the 1990s I had a friend who kept pointing out how each generation of Honda was larger and more luxurious than the previous. He predicted that Hondas would end up being what Oldsmobiles and Buicks were for our parent's generation: respectable luxobarges for the middle classes. I think he got it right.

Up to a point. The Accord, as big as it has gotten, is still nowhere near the softly-suspended luxobarge that the Camry is. People who are used to driving Buicks and similar large American sedans will almost always prefer the Camry, finding the Accord too stiffly-sprung for their tastes. But the US Accord is quite different than the Accord sold in Europe and Japan, which is rebadged as the Acura TSX for US sale and is considerably smaller and sportier.

Of course, either of them are worlds removed from the 1980 Accord sedan I got for my wife in 1993 after someone ran a red light and totaled her VW Rabbit.

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Speaking of Honda and the Accord...updated for 2011.

Sedan

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Coupe

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Honda has unveiled updates to its new Accord Sedan and Coupe for the 2011 model year. Chief among the changes are improvements to the car's aerodynamics, reduced engine friction and revised transmission gearing that all add up to increased fuel efficiency. According to the automaker, four-cylinder sedans equipped with an automatic transmission now achieve 23 miles per gallon in the city (a two mpg improvement) and 34 mpg on the highway (a three mpg improvement).

Styling updates are mostly limited to the front fascias, which now appear to be more in line with the blocky look of the Accord Crosstour... for better or for worse. Brake lights and bumpers also get slight revisions, and new wheels are optional on V6 models. The Coupe gets optional steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters and a USB Audio Interface, while all models with navigation get a rear view camera system.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/24/honda-releases-info-and-images-of-revised-2011-accord/

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2011 Mercedes-Benz CL Class

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For starters, the CL550 4MATIC now packs an all-new twin-turbo 4.7-liter V8 engine with around 429 horsepower and a beefy 516 lb-ft of torque. The keen-eyed among you will notice that the eight-pot is down in displacement by almost a full liter, but still manages to crank out 47 more horsepower and a massive 125 lb-ft of torque compared to last year's powerplant

http://www.autoblog....d-pics-aplenty/

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At quick glance the back end of the Mercedes looks like the Honda...unintended amalgamation of car design?

You're right. Boy, I'd bet the folks at Mercedes would be pretty unhappy to read that.

Here's a rare one I saw on the street. I didn't know what it was, so when it was stopped at a red light I rode up and checked it out.

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Lancia Fulvia coupe. The one I saw was the same color as in the picture.

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It takes years to develop a new vehicle. I'm sure dozens of people must have to sign off on the design. Don't you think at some point along the way someone would have raised their hand and said "Uh, guys, it's really ugly!"

Perhaps it's a tribute to the Pontiac Aztec?

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