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We have known about this since July, but it was in the BLVD Place thread. With the first rendering, I decided to start it's own thread.

POST OAK PLAZA TO GET A MAKEOVER

Post Oak Plaza, the 130,000 square-foot shopping center located at Post Oak Boulevard and San Felipe, will soon undergo an extensive makeover. Improvements will include a new fa

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The parking in this center is already terrible. There simply aren't enough spaces despite the sea of surface parking for the current businesses. Adding a Borders to the mix certainly wont help.

Seems as if they are just putting some lipstick on a dated strip center. At the very least, they needed to spend the $$$ to add a garage. Try heading there at noon. It's a MESS.

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The rendering in the first post above appears to be perhaps an old rendering and not the current plan. If you go to Levcor.com you can click through to to see their current renderings and leasing brochures. The design is quite different from the above rendering and there is no mention of Borders. The above rendering does appear on their site, in fact on the front page of references to Post Oak Plaza, which seems odd...

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whole foods and a whole earth across the street from each other? hippies and yuppies rejoice!

and within walking distance from my house :D

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The parking in this center is already terrible. There simply aren't enough spaces despite the sea of surface parking for the current businesses. Adding a Borders to the mix certainly wont help.

Seems as if they are just putting some lipstick on a dated strip center. At the very least, they needed to spend the $$$ to add a garage. Try heading there at noon. It's a MESS.

The idea is to update the style a litte without reconstructing the whole thing or making any huge outlays. The strategy, it would seem, is to create upside rent potentials and, since they know that BLVD Place is going to cause a lot of retailers to look at Houston or the Galleria area that wouldn't have before, and that those retailers are likely to evaluate alternatives to BLVD Place in order to make sure that they're getting a decent deal, they may also be in a position to capture a few of those. The surface parking may be cramped, but most retailers see it as a competitive advantage because it increases visibility and the shopper's percepions (whether founded in reality or not) of convenience and ease of accessibility.

If I'm not mistaken, there was a Chronicle article from way way back that had said that Levcor was pondering whether to demolish and rebuild the center, just like Wulfe was going to do. I don't see that eventuality as being off the table, but by making only superficial upgrades, it puts them in a good to wait and see how things go with BLVD Place and all of these other big mixed-use centers before diving in, themselves.

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The rendering in the first post above appears to be perhaps an old rendering and not the current plan. If you go to Levcor.com you can click through to to see their current renderings and leasing brochures. The design is quite different from the above rendering and there is no mention of Borders. The above rendering does appear on their site, in fact on the front page of references to Post Oak Plaza, which seems odd...

I signed up for the Uptown Update from the neighborhood website, this is what they sent me.

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Yeah, if you look at the renderings from the website, there is no Borders. There is a Whole Earth about where the Borders is in the above rendering, and the Lubys is on the other side, kinda in the corner.

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OH MY GOD!!! HOUSTON'S FIRST LUBY'S! I'M SO EXCITED!

If I'm not mistaken, Luby's is already a tenant and they've agreed to stay in place through the renovation. Not really all that newsworthy.

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Luby's only fronts as a restaurant. They are actually elderly manufacturing plants. That's where all old people come from.
Funny, but really Luby's just reheats food.
Yeah, if you look at the renderings from the website, there is no Borders. There is a Whole Earth about where the Borders is in the above rendering, and the Lubys is on the other side, kinda in the corner.
What is Whole Earth, is it like Whole Foods, but they sell dirt and trees too?

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They have a Whole Earth on Shepard near the old Alabama theater. They don't have food like Whole Foods, but they have clothes and equipment for doing "earth" stuff, like hiking or mountain climbing, and they're all about eco-friendly stuff and tree-hugging and eating granola. I think their stores use "green" power.

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The final product is pretty much done, and the Borders represented here back in 2007, must have been planned before it moved to Galleria 2.

Luby's is now on the corner, and from what they said on Roula and Ryan show, Roula loved the location and the design.

Chic cafeteria dining. :rolleyes:

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i'm sure i would've noticed, but did they in fact add a whole earth?

Didn't notice, and likely not.

Check out the latest plans.

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Flyer

Note, a new stop light by Linens N Things is coming up, as well as a Pappas Restaurant, with a second story next to the Home Source/Wolf Ripoff Camera.

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looks nice enough , but they really stress on the stores

following the theme colors (i.e the signs)

I can see another renovation in 5 years, especially once everythin else fills out.

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I can see another renovation in 5 years, especially once everythin else fills out.

I can see a total demolition of this place considering it's location. What a bigtime drag of a renovation.

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I can see a total demolition of this place considering it's location. What a bigtime drag of a renovation.

one would have to think that this property, the weingarten (ugh) shopping center on the NEC of post oak & westheimer, and the brucettes shoes corner will all under go urbanized redevelopment in the next 5-10 years. i just pray weingarten has nothing to do with any potential redevelopment on their lot.

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one would have to think that this property, the weingarten (ugh) shopping center on the NEC of post oak & westheimer, and the brucettes shoes corner will all under go urbanized redevelopment in the next 5-10 years. i just pray weingarten has nothing to do with any potential redevelopment on their lot.

When they had vacancies, they should have spent some extra cash and really done something to compliment the development across the street.

This shopping center won't last.

We the lightrail line going down Post Oak to and BLVD Place coming in at the same time, it will have to be demolished and completely redone to remain relevant.

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Didn't notice, and likely not.

Check out the latest plans.

Before

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After

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2dhek9e.jpg

Website

Flyer

Note, a new stop light by Linens N Things is coming up, as well as a Pappas Restaurant, with a second story next to the Home Source/Wolf Ripoff Camera.

Linens N Things is closing this location too.

Is the company closing down or something?

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I can see a total demolition of this place considering it's location. What a bigtime drag of a renovation.

one can only hope.

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Linens N Things is closing this location too.

Is the company closing down or something?

Unless something changed since this last press release on store closings, I don't think this is correct. LNT is in Chapter 11 reorg right now and they have announced the closing of 57 underperforming stores, but there is only one in Texas up in Mesquite.

LNT Press release on store closings

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No source, just a huge "Store Closing" banner hung above the sign.

I would call that source strong, to quite strong. :D

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Note, a new stop light by Linens N Things is coming up, as well as a Pappas Restaurant, with a second story next to the Home Source/Wolf Ripoff Camera.

Any word on what Pappas Restaurant???

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yep

linens and things is closing!

the banners are up and at 10 to 30 percent off, they are still more expensive than target or walmart ;)

anyway...please let it be a pappasitos coming to the plaza or the area.

working and living just a block away from a pappasitos would be a dream come true haha!

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yep

linens and things is closing!

the banners are up and at 10 to 30 percent off, they are still more expensive than target or walmart ;)

anyway...please let it be a pappasitos coming to the plaza or the area.

working and living just a block away from a pappasitos would be a dream come true haha!

I can't imagine a Pappasitos moving into a newly renovated, bland shopping center like that. Don't they usually spend a lot of money making their restaurants look more... uh... antique? If they're moving into the area, I'd think it would have to be in a different location nearby, no?

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I can't imagine a Pappasitos moving into a newly renovated, bland shopping center like that. Don't they usually spend a lot of money making their restaurants look more... uh... antique? If they're moving into the area, I'd think it would have to be in a different location nearby, no?

well since you mentioned it, i cant recall any pappa's restaurants not located in stand-alone buildings... so it might as well be pappasitos.

a pappasitos w/in walking distance of my house and place of employment would be trouble to my waistline and wallet, though.

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Oh, now come on, y'all. Enough with this Pappasito's foolishness. Y'all know there are much better Tex-Mex places in town (that also cost a lot less money and aren't as full of loud parties and screaming kids) than Pappasito's. You're killing me!

If you're that desperate for Tex-Mex in the Galleria area, there's a Ninfa's right there on Post Oak (marginally better food than Pappasito's) and a Los Cucos on Westheimer (marginally better as well). Paparrucho's on Sage does a good happy hour. La Tapatia on Richmond ain't bad either. Then again, looking at all the options I've just listed, I guess the Galleria area isn't exactly the place to get great Mexican food. Maybe a Pappasito's would fit right in with the mediocrity. :lol:

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Oh, now come on, y'all. Enough with this Pappasito's foolishness. Y'all know there are much better Tex-Mex places in town (that also cost a lot less money and aren't as full of loud parties and screaming kids) than Pappasito's. You're killing me!

If you're that desperate for Tex-Mex in the Galleria area, there's a Ninfa's right there on Post Oak (marginally better food than Pappasito's) and a Los Cucos on Westheimer (marginally better as well). Paparrucho's on Sage does a good happy hour. La Tapatia on Richmond ain't bad either. Then again, looking at all the options I've just listed, I guess the Galleria area isn't exactly the place to get great Mexican food. Maybe a Pappasito's would fit right in with the mediocrity. :lol:

name me a better fajita.... oh that's right, you can't.

swtsig ftw!

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Oh, now come on, y'all. Enough with this Pappasito's foolishness. Y'all know there are much better Tex-Mex places in town (that also cost a lot less money and aren't as full of loud parties and screaming kids) than Pappasito's. You're killing me!

If you're that desperate for Tex-Mex in the Galleria area, there's a Ninfa's right there on Post Oak (marginally better food than Pappasito's) and a Los Cucos on Westheimer (marginally better as well). Paparrucho's on Sage does a good happy hour. La Tapatia on Richmond ain't bad either. Then again, looking at all the options I've just listed, I guess the Galleria area isn't exactly the place to get great Mexican food. Maybe a Pappasito's would fit right in with the mediocrity. :lol:

I have worked right around the corner from Ninfas for the past 10 years and have watched the gradual decline from a great place to eat to IMO a place that tastes one step above a mexican TV dinnner. Unfortunately I get dragged there for work lunches or work happy hours from time to time. Drinks are good! But better that Pappasittos??? Wow.

Los Cucos is good, but I don't think their quality or service is quite Pappasitos. Still a good place to eat.

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Oh I love Pappasitos, everytime I'm back in Houston it's one of the first places I have to eat. Usually either the one on I10 near BW8 or the one on 290 near Tinseltown. A Pappasitos in Uptown would work out much better.

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Oh, now come on, y'all. Enough with this Pappasito's foolishness. Y'all know there are much better Tex-Mex places in town (that also cost a lot less money and aren't as full of loud parties and screaming kids) than Pappasito's. You're killing me!

If you're that desperate for Tex-Mex in the Galleria area, there's a Ninfa's right there on Post Oak (marginally better food than Pappasito's) and a Los Cucos on Westheimer (marginally better as well). Paparrucho's on Sage does a good happy hour. La Tapatia on Richmond ain't bad either. Then again, looking at all the options I've just listed, I guess the Galleria area isn't exactly the place to get great Mexican food. Maybe a Pappasito's would fit right in with the mediocrity. :lol:

oh my gosh please tell me you are kidding?!

los cucos and ninfas better than pappasitos?! not in my book!!! yikes!

if you had said Lupe's it might not have been as blasphemous!

:blink::blush:

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:lol: Touched a nerve...

I'm just gonna quote myself in my defense:

Then again, looking at all the options I've just listed, I guess the Galleria area isn't exactly the place to get great Mexican food. Maybe a Pappasito's would fit right in with the mediocrity.

They're all horribly average. Pappasito's included. Sorry. :)

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:lol: Touched a nerve...

I'm just gonna quote myself in my defense:

They're all horribly average. Pappasito's included. Sorry. :)

Well looks like whatever Pappa-suffix they wanted to open is gone, flyer is updated, with the removal of Linens N Things completed too.

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It has just been announced that Masraff's will be closing/relocating to Memorial City area...

I wonder what is in the future for Post Oak Plaza with Post Oak Blvd trying to be come "THE greatest Boulevard in America" or whatever they are calling it...

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/10/29/exclusive-galleria-area-restaurant-mainstay-to.html

(I don't have an account with bizjournals so I am unable to read the full article...)

 

 

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Owner Russel Masraff decided to move his restaurant for several reasons: The timing was right, as Masraff's lease will end April 30, 2020; construction along Post Oak Boulevard has been slowing customer traffic; and the uptick of restaurants in the Galleria area made competition fierce. Masraff believes that the area around his new location lacks high-end restaurants, and those that exist are primarily steakhouses. 

 

Probably the most interesting snippet from the article. They're relocating to southeast corner of I-10 and Bunker Hill and the restaurant will be about 20% smaller.

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Well wow...Zadok's then Masraff's and now Meredith O'Donnell all moving out of Post Oak Plaza (that whole strip to the right of Luby's will be completely vacant)...do you think this is a sign that this plaza is coming to an end or that new tenants will be moving in? 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2020/05/11/galleria-area-furniture-store-to-move-after-rising.html

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4 hours ago, gene said:

Well wow...Zadok's then Masraff's and now Meredith O'Donnell all moving out of Post Oak Plaza (that whole strip to the right of Luby's will be completely vacant)...do you think this is a sign that this plaza is coming to an end or that new tenants will be moving in? 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2020/05/11/galleria-area-furniture-store-to-move-after-rising.html

 

Seems like a good time to go for the redevelopment we've all been waiting for.

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9 hours ago, gene said:

Uh oh.... Luby’s going out of business maybe (says selling but...)... this plaza is a goner!!!!???


Texas icon Luby’s announces intent to sell all assets and restaurant business
https://www.click2houston.com/food/2020/06/04/texas-icon-lubys-announces-intent-to-sell-all-assets-and-restaurant-business/

 

I remember when they did their rebranding many years ago. Was actually pretty successful. They managed to turn themselves into a decent brunch place on the weekends. But today there are so many better brunch places that it has effectively pushed them out, and if you want that cafeteria feel then you can just go to the many food halls that have opened up. Lubys has been slide for awhile. Not really surprised even with the pandemic.

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Yeah you are right...although it is a haven for senior citizens and even when i have gone i get very nostalgic as my grandmother loved Luby's. (i miss her :( )

BUT Cleburne Cafeteria is far superior in my opinion and i love the owner George Mickelis...He is an amazing human being.

 

So the question remains...is this plaza on it's way out? that whole side will now be completely vacant if this Luby's closes. 

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2 hours ago, gene said:

So the question remains...is this plaza on it's way out? that whole side will now be completely vacant if this Luby's closes. 

 

IIRC, Kenny & Ziggy's was planning to move to the Luby's space in Post Oak Plaza. Not sure if this is still the case. 

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wow that is very interesting...don't think i recall ever hearing that before...

if that was the case i wonder if the other plaza where K & Z is located would eventually move it's tenants to this plaza and do away with that one?!

that would maybe be better! 

 

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On 6/4/2020 at 1:28 PM, gene said:

wow that is very interesting...don't think i recall ever hearing that before...

if that was the case i wonder if the other plaza where K & Z is located would eventually move it's tenants to this plaza and do away with that one?!

that would maybe be better! 

 

Not sure about moving all the tenants, but there has been some previous discussion here about potential redevelopment of the Post Oak Shopping Center:
 

 

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