GovernorAggie Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Unless I'm missing something, this would be the tallest hotel in Houston, right? Or at least one of the tallest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) As usual!Since you're so excited about the park, I think you should apply for a job at the snack bar/restaurant that will be located there. I'm sure they'll be happy to have someone with your energy/enthusiasm down there contributing to making DG an ongoing "hit."...And I think YOU should apply for a room at a rest home for frustrated Houston haters. You must be having a serious nervous breakdown these days with all the positive things going on in Houston. This is about the booming DG area and Embassy Suites, not me. Please stay on topic, grumpy. Edited September 22, 2007 by Mister X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 The design is kind of run of the mill, but I don't have a problem at all with the hotel name on top. I just hope there is enough momentum for development in that part of downtown to spread a few blocks north to the Minute Maid Park area, but that might be wishful thinking. This has to be one of the biggest periods for Houston development since the 1980s boom. Downtown alone has Main Place, Pavillions, Disco Tower, Sheraton redevelopment, the park, Embassy Suites, Park Tower, and possible Brookwoods, 6 Houston Center, and another Hines development. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 How many feet will this thing be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalparadise Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Yeah, it looks great. Let's just put a lid on the Central Park stuff, so we don't sound like a bunch of hayseeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I never realized that saying Discovery Green and Central Park in the same sentence was such taboo, but o.k. That rendering in the Chron showing a patch of green surrounded by skyscrapers just made me think of it. It's not like I said something insane like Houston was getting the next Times Square or something.I'll drop it, but I don't think I'll be the only one (especially when it's finished) to think of Central Park when they see photos or take a stroll thru DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Owl Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Unless I'm missing something, this would be the tallest hotel in Houston, right? Or at least one of the tallest.The Hyatt dowtown is the tallest at 401 feet (30 stories). The Hilton Americas is 24 stories. The new ES will probably be just a touch shorter than the Hilton next door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) Here's a larger version of the rendering from today's paper... Edited September 22, 2007 by ChannelTwoNews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Overall, I like this design. It's safe and simple but compared to most Embassy Suites I've seen, it's top notch. Plus, I think it will compliment the One Park Place design well and it looks like it will have a small light spire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I never realized that saying Discovery Green and Central Park in the same sentence was such taboo, but o.k. That rendering in the Chron showing a patch of green surrounded by skyscrapers just made me think of it. It's not like I said something insane like Houston was getting the next Times Square or something.I'll drop it, but I don't think I'll be the only one (especially when it's finished) to think of Central Park when they see photos or take a stroll thru DG.It isn't taboo and it is a nice thought. An urban park with hi-rises all around just makes a lovely picture. I can hardly wait to see it all completed. My son has promised me a trip and I want to wait until all these current projects are completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Now if only we could get a render of the Discovery Tower, One Park Place, and Embassy Suites altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 This has to be one of the biggest periods for Houston development since the 1***s b***.PLEASE don't say that! you'll jinx us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 This is really great news! I missed the article in the Chronicle this morning but heard about the project from a friend at a party earlier this evening. This, plus the already announced Omni, should help Houston compete for large conventions. I think the La Quinta near Minute Maid Park is a great idea too, as Downtown is in need of more hotel rooms that fall in that price category.Now if only someone would resurrect the proposal to turn the old Texaco building into a hotel. I'd still like to see Marriott dust off their plans for a Renaissance Hotel in that location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolie Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Every surface lot in the CBD is an insult. Someone should add a page on the wiki with a count of surface lots, and a countdown to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrell32 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) I did the best i could...I think this is where embassy suite will be..not sure. Edited September 23, 2007 by mrell32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 You did a damned good job considering what you had to work with. The only thing is that it's too far from the The Americas. It's actually a bit closer to it on that little odd piece of land. I don't know how the hotel would be oriented, but that might seem about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You did a damned good job considering what you had to work with. The only thing is that it's too far from the The Americas. It's actually a bit closer to it on that little odd piece of land. I don't know how the hotel would be oriented, but that might seem about right.That's pretty much spot on, although I think 6 Houston Center is supposed to be behind the Fulbright Tower at this point. At least based on the article when it was mentioned a few weeks ago with a few of the other projects in that part of DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Yeah, that piece of land and the way it's situated kinda' throws things off, I guess. I'm dying to know when the kick off starts for both HC6 and Embassy. BTW: should there be another purge and purge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I like the design. I hope there will be ground level retail facing the park. Now if we can just get a 40 story condo tower on the northern end of the park, that area will be ready to roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm91 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 where did you get a rendering of HC6? i'd like to see it if i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYetYuppie Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) Is this (see article below) the same block that this thread is talking about? If so, looks like a nice hotel.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...iz/5156092.htmlPark attracts a hotel towerDeveloper plans a 22-story Embassy Suites downtown near Discovery Green, an area growing in popularityBy NANCY SARNOFFCopyright 2007 Houston Chronicle A local hotel developer is planning to build a 22-story Embassy Suites near the new downtown park, the latest project to be announced in this suddenly hot area.American Liberty Hospitality expects to start construction on the 250-room full-service hotel by next summer after it receives final approval for its franchise from Hilton Hotels Corp. and secures financing. The opening is scheduled for the first quarter of 2010.Nick Massad, president of American Liberty, said he has had preliminary discussions with public officials regarding a tax abatement for the estimated $50 million project, but won't discuss details until the negotiations are further along.Located at 1515 Dallas at La Branch, the hotel would be near developments such as Discovery Green park, the One Park Place apartment building, the Houston Pavilions retail, office and entertainment complex and two proposed office towers. The George R. Brown Convention Center and Hilton Americas-Houston Hotel are also close by.nancy.sarnoff@chron.com Edited September 24, 2007 by Subdude Copyright restrictions - the Chron gets antsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 where did you get a rendering of HC6? i'd like to see it if i can.That is not 6 Houston Center. It is Discovery Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 6 Houston will not be on the Park. 6 Houston will be connected directly to 1 and 2 Houston via skywalk (well at least that is what Crescent said in the memo I received) which is a few blocks behind 5 Houston and Fulbright Tower. Currently I am in 5 Houston.The only location I can see this happening is between San Jacinto/Caroline and Rusk/Walker, which is a Parking lot at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm91 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 im not talking about discovery tower. if you look at the photoshop pic, it has Houston Pavilions, Embassy Suites, One Park Place, Discovery Green/Tower, Mainplace, and one other building that is in between HP, ES, and OPP. thats the building i was talking about and i just assumed it was 6HC. now that i know its not, then what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 im not talking about discovery tower. if you look at the photoshop pic, it has Houston Pavilions, Embassy Suites, One Park Place, Discovery Green/Tower, Mainplace, and one other building that is in between HP, ES, and OPP. thats the building i was talking about and i just assumed it was 6HC. now that i know its not, then what is it?It's from an old model of a previous design and location for 6 Houston Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 6 Houston will not be on the Park. 6 Houston will be connected directly to 1 and 2 Houston via skywalk (well at least that is what Crescent said in the memo I received) which is a few blocks behind 5 Houston and Fulbright Tower. Currently I am in 5 Houston.The only location I can see this happening is between San Jacinto/Caroline and Rusk/Walker, which is a Parking lot at the moment.I would think the block between the Four Seasons and the new Embassy Suites would be the logical location for 6 Houston Center (as shown in the rendering). It seems that block would be in demand now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) I would think the block between the Four Seasons and the new Embassy Suites would be the logical location for 6 Houston Center (as shown in the rendering). It seems that block would be in demand now.Daniepwils is correct. The planned location for 6 HC is to the north of 1 HC. IIRC, the block you are speaking of (between the Four Seasons and the new Embassy Suites) is controlled by Marv Finger and he has plans for another residential building there following One Park Place. Edited September 25, 2007 by Houston19514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 .... the block you are speaking of (between the Four Seasons and the new Embassy Suites) is controlled by Marv Finger and he has plans for another residential building there following One Park Place. REEEEEALLLLY now? Isn't that INTERESTING? This is the first I heard of a (potential) other project on that block. I think this tiny bit of speculation deserves it's own topic post. I just want TIMEFRAMES! GIMME TIMEFRAMES! sorry, I'm hyper. Just found out A-Rod got offered a share of the cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 REEEEEALLLLY now? Isn't that INTERESTING? This is the first I heard of a (potential) other project on that block.I think this tiny bit of speculation deserves it's own topic post. I just want TIMEFRAMES! GIMME TIMEFRAMES! sorry, I'm hyper. Just found out A-Rod got offered a share of the cubs. Not speculation, really, and not worthy of its own topic post at this time. That's all there is to it. There is no more information. At the time the first articles came out about One Park Place, it was stated that "Finger is also under contract to acquire an adjacent parcel of land where a second tower could be built." The adjacent parcel pretty much has to be the block to the south of One Park Place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 This is definitely some good news. I used to work for Embassy Suites in Colorado Springs and it is definitely a nice hotel. I just hope that this park continues to attract new great projects like this. I think Houston will end up having quite a hopping little downtown here in the next upcoming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdig Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 That is not correct, Finger doesn't have rights to the block east of the Four Seasons. That block (Block 251) is controlled by a very non-motivated seller probably won't be developed very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 That is not correct, Finger doesn't have rights to the block east of the Four Seasons. That block (Block 251) is controlled by a very non-motivated seller probably won't be developed very soon.Boy, if they can't be motivated in today's market, they must be comatose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) That is not correct, Finger doesn't have rights to the block east of the Four Seasons. That block (Block 251) is controlled by a very non-motivated seller probably won't be developed very soon.I presume you are speaking of Golconda. Is 251 one of the blocks they own? You are right about their general lack of motivation to or interest in selling, but of course that does not make it impossible. They HAVE sold properties in the past.But if it's not Block 251, which block would be the parcel of land adjacent to One Park Place on which Finger has a contract to purchase? (Perhaps I overstated slightly by saying he controlled the block... but if he has a contract to purchase it, he does in most respects control it.) Edited September 26, 2007 by Houston19514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 saw something interesting at the sight: a large drilling machine doing some work, and i don't think they were searching for oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 saw something interesting at the sight: a large drilling machine doing some work, and i don't think they were searching for oil.and what do you think they were doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 ummm...drilling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ummm...drilling? gettin smart here are we? You think they were drilling in preparation, since you don't think they were drilling for oil? Or maybe they were just drilling for grins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjones98 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) gettin smart here are we? You think they were drilling in preparation, since you don't think they were drilling for oil? Or maybe they were just drilling for grins? Testing the soil would be my guess. I'm not an architect or engineer, but surely the contents of the soil must be determined before more definite plans can be drawn. Do we have any engineers in the house? Edited September 26, 2007 by bkjones98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Testing the soil would be my guess. I'm not an architect or engineer, but surely the contents of the soil must be determined before more definite plans can be drawn.Do we have any engineers in the house?can only speak from residential experience, but a soil test would most likely be the reason for any drilling right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdig Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 I presume you are speaking of Golconda. Is 251 one of the blocks they own? You are right about their general lack of motivation to or interest in selling, but of course that does not make it impossible. They HAVE sold properties in the past.But if it's not Block 251, which block would be the parcel of land adjacent to One Park Place on which Finger has a contract to purchase? (Perhaps I overstated slightly by saying he controlled the block... but if he has a contract to purchase it, he does in most respects control it.)Block 251 is owned by the Pacifico estate and they are holding out for a crazy price. Probably will be the last good parcel to sell. I don't think Finger has a contract on another block unless its really new information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Block 251 is owned by the Pacifico estate and they are holding out for a crazy price. Probably will be the last good parcel to sell. I don't think Finger has a contract on another block unless its really new information.I have no new information. I'm just quoting from the newspaper article that announced One Park Place. Was that bad information? Have I foolishly believed that the Chron got something right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I did the best i could...I think this is where embassy suite will be..not sure. Excellent job with the rendering considering what you had; i agree. i am pleased that FINALLY developers have latched on to the virtual mecca of possibilities that that part of DT offers. Not only is it going to alter Houston's skyline from that angle, BUT it will also add to the density seen from all angles. Bring on the cranes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we say it.............Houston is boomin' again. m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo9903 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 ^^ NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Dear building,construction, and development Gods, he did not mean that last comment. Clearly, he does not know the error of his ways. Please grant your mercy and forgive him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 ......Houston is bxxxxx' again. m. Don't SAY THAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ^^^^^^ I thought that would get some of you guys to fall off of your collective chairs!!!!!!!!!! What's SO WRONG about saying the B word? I have never seen anyone so scared and scarred by the late 80's bust as you HAIFers. Maybe i am trying to invoke the construction, architectural Houston gods to SHOW US SOMETHING. Talk about cautious..........sheesh. Should we recompile a list of what's happening and will happen regarding Houston construction over the next 3 years? Would that sway you at all? Oh ye of little faith. The signs are there OR do you feel i am jinxing it just by saying it? m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 (edited) There is a mistake on the map. Houston Pavillions is two blocks south between Dallas and Polk.http://images.chron.com/photos/2007/09/22/...e/0922suite.jpgGlad the man did his research! Edited October 1, 2007 by Pumapayam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ^^^^^^ I thought that would get some of you guys to fall off of your collective chairs!!!!!!!!!!What's SO WRONG about saying the B word? I have never seen anyone so scared and scarred by the late 80's bust as you HAIFers. Maybe i am trying to invoke the construction, architectural Houston gods to SHOW US SOMETHING. Talk about cautious..........sheesh. Should we recompile a list of what's happening and will happen regarding Houston construction over the next 3 years? Would that sway you at all? Oh ye of little faith. The signs are there OR do you feel i am jinxing it just by saying it? m. Tell me about it. Worrying about using the word "boom" certainly brought nothing to the city. Embrace that Houston is trying to step into the BOOM times of this decade. There. I said it. BOOM! BOOM! B-B-B-B-B-BOOM!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo9903 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ^^^ I expect to come here tomorrow and find that DG is scrapped because of cost overruns and Embassy pulls out, along with Main Place, HP an they are even going to stop working on I 10! Tomorrows crude oil price will be 50 cents a barrell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I never realized that saying Discovery Green and Central Park in the same sentence was such taboo, but o.k. That rendering in the Chron showing a patch of green surrounded by skyscrapers just made me think of it. It's not like I said something insane like Houston was getting the next Times Square or something.I'll drop it, but I don't think I'll be the only one (especially when it's finished) to think of Central Park when they see photos or take a stroll thru DG.Make's me happy that the wife and I threw in some decent money to this park (we will get a cool plaque or brick or something with our names). Just my little part to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolie Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ^^^ I expect to come here tomorrow and find that DG is scrapped because of cost overruns and Embassy pulls out, along with Main Place, HP an they are even going to stop working on I 10! Tomorrows crude oil price will be 50 cents a barrell! Thankfully the price of crude is only going to go up from this point out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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