T 2 THA C Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 This area by the Stadiums have come along way since 2008. I remember thinking when they would finish Disco Green. Now 1 Park Place finished, Disco Green finished, Disco Tower almost finished, and the Embassy Suites on its way. Lost at least two parking lots and still have no trouble finding parking @ Rockets games conventions etc!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Good progress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Very Good Progress, I did`nt realize they were moving pretty fast until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Wow! I am impressed with the progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks to ES's small size, it will start to grace the southern skyline in just a couple months. It seems like they average almost 1 floor a week! that is fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks to ES's small size, it will start to grace the southern skyline in just a couple months. It seems like they average almost 1 floor a week! that is fast In a half of year to a year from now, when I'm at Discovery Green, and OPP, ES, and Hess Tower are all done, Im actually going to miss the ongoing, never-ending construction that has occured there since it opened. But who knows, maybe that new convention center hotel will actually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Has anyone determined where the parking is? There is still a lot of land on the lot but I can't see that being used for surface parking. Maybe a two story parking structure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 taking a second look at the rendering it seems there might be an entrance and exit from La Branch to a check-in area and possibly a small parking lot in front of that facing Lamar. I could be wrong, but I thought downtown couldn't have logo's on the buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonartstudent Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I could be wrong, but I thought downtown couldn't have logo's on the buildings.I believe hotels are exempt...look at the Hilton right next door as an example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 They are pouring another floor tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I think buildings should be allowed to have logos at the top... It would make for a more interesting skyline... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I think buildings should be allowed to have logos at the top... It would make for a more interesting skyline...I'm with you on that. I think that is what makes downtown seem so bland (in my opinion). The city allows all of these billboards and tall signs out side of downtown which I think make the city visually cluttered (thats what needs to be minimized). Why not allow them downtown and liven it up down there. Kind of like Times Square. I want to say the same about METRO, they don't allow advertisement because I they think its tacky. I personally think that it would be cool to have advertisement on sides of buses trains and stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I'm with you on that. I think that is what makes downtown seem so bland (in my opinion). The city allows all of these billboards and tall signs out side of downtown which I think make the city visually cluttered (thats what needs to be minimized). Why not allow them downtown and liven it up down there. Kind of like Times Square. I want to say the same about METRO, they don't allow advertisement because I they think its tacky. I personally think that it would be cool to have advertisement on sides of buses trains and stations......and I personally think it would be cool to brand a corporate logo straight onto your forehead.Hopefully that sounds absurd to you. What have we become, culturally, when a whole generation not only mistakesmarketing for beauty, but longs for the visual blight of ads to 'liven up' public spaces? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 What have we become, culturally, when a whole generation not only mistakes marketing for beauty, but longs for the visual blight of ads to 'liven up' public spaces?What is architecture, in practice, but an attempt by a developer to enhance the marketability of an otherwise commoditized asset? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyTree Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 What is architecture, in practice, but an attempt by a developer to enhance the marketability of an otherwise commoditized asset?Post-Modern architecture in practice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nick Massad Jr. ... says downtown (especially near the George R. Brown) is seriously under-roomed considering it has three markets––sports, conventions, and corporate travel. (Most hotels have two.) He says we have 4800 rooms downtown; compare to Austin (5700), San Antonio (12k) or even the Galleria (8k). The hotel will be 19 stories, 262 suites, 80 underground parking spaces, a street-level restaurant, and 6k SF of meeting space. Nick says it took1.5 years to plan and arrange financing, and it’s only happening because of the city’s occupancy tax rebate....every inch of the 17k SF lot is being built, which made building the two stories below grade a challenge.Nick wants to build another hotel with some retail in the area, but it would be at least three years from now.http://www.bisnow.com/houston_commercial_real_estate_news_story.php?p=7355 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) What is architecture, in practice, but an attempt by a developer to enhance the marketability of an otherwise commoditized asset? Deleted non-G posts be damned. I think I've found a solution that would satisfy both your evil secret lair needs and citykid's signage-as-character needs: Edited March 3, 2010 by AtticaFlinch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Deleted non-G posts be damned. I think I've found a solution that would satisfy both your evil secret lair needs and citykid's signage-as-character needs: LOL! That is a little too much character. But what would Times Square be without the ads? NOTHING! Its really a site to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 .....and I personally think it would be cool to brand a corporate logo straight onto your forehead.Hopefully that sounds absurd to you. What have we become, culturally, when a whole generation not only mistakesmarketing for beauty, but longs for the visual blight of ads to 'liven up' public spaces?What else would you have us do to liven up our skyline? Surely there should be far more interesting architecture in our great downtown other than plain boring old boxes. UGH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 As of yesterday, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 it's halfway there...man, this is gonna be a short building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 it's halfway there...man, this is gonna be a short building.Zero skyline impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Zero skyline impact?Depends on the direction. You'll definitely see it from the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Not much skyline imparct, but it will be so great to get much needed hotel space in downtown!! And great to see another burned parking space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feufoma Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 it's halfway there...man, this is gonna be a short building.It looks like they're working on the 9th of 22 floors. So, it still has some to go plus a crown. It'll probably be 330-350 ft. Not bad for infill and certainly better than a parking lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnmcbarnacle Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 It looks like they're working on the 9th of 22 floors. So, it still has some to go plus a crown. It'll probably be 330-350 ft. Not bad for infill and certainly better than a parking lot...When you drive down Allen Parkway and enter downtown where it becomes Dallas, it is becoming noticeable. From an infill standpoint it is nice to see some height down at the end of the street. Dallas terminates into the convntion center and the street has now really filled in with this building, as well as the 3 blocks of Pavillions. Put it this way, it wasn't more than a few years ago that the last five blocks of Dallas before the convention center felt barren. The height of the hotel at the end of the street has the effect of "lengthening" the street. As a veteran of that part of DT, it's amazing to think of that area before the park, Hilton, Embassy, Park Place, Hess, Houston Center 5, Pavillions, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 As of yesterday,Its going to be nice!Just wondering about the view though. When looking out of the windows from the front of the building you will see that huge power station. Is there any plan to move that thing or cover it? I think I have seen in Chicago where they covered a power station with a building, that way you would never know it was there and it looks much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Its going to be nice!Just wondering about the view though. When looking out of the windows from the front of the building you will see that huge power station. Is there any plan to move that thing or cover it? I think I have seen in Chicago where they covered a power station with a building, that way you would never know it was there and it looks much better.This comes down to climate dictating design.These things have to be COOL to operate properly during the summer. If you cover them up, you would then have to spend a certain amount of power to cool the things down.Don't really know how other cities with our same climate handles it, but I'm sure they wouldn't want to take on the added expense to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frheard Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 This comes down to climate dictating design.These things have to be COOL to operate properly during the summer. If you cover them up, you would then have to spend a certain amount of power to cool the things down.Don't really know how other cities with our same climate handles it, but I'm sure they wouldn't want to take on the added expense to do so.Any idea how they keep it COOL in the summer now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Any idea how they keep it COOL in the summer now?They have fans and blow over the radiators that they use to help circulate the air. Drive up to one (like the one on 59 by Garrott) and you'll easily see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 From JohnMe in SSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekarl17 Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 From JohnMe in SSP Does anyone know what they are gonna build next to Embassy Suites? It is kind of empty, or just leave for another development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Does anyone know what they are gonna build next to Embassy Suites? It is kind of empty, or just leave for another development?My guess is parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I took these today: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 It's really going to look great from the park once it's finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Where did you take this one? I took these today: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 There was a bridge over the street during the Shell Eco Race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 It'll be interesting to see how closely this one resembles the cartoonish rendering. At 19 stories, it looks like it is over halfway up... pretty short, but I guess something is better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livincinco Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 Well, you usually don't expect Embassy Suites to be a defining building in your skyline. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 My guess is parking.It would be so great to see someone build a parking garage with some street-level retail right here. That way, we take care of the growing parking needs for the area, generate some more retail interest, and form a solid link from Houston Pavilions to Discovery Green. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Well, you usually don't expect Embassy Suites to be a defining building in your skyline.I think this is the best response to all the people who have complained about the Embassy Suites being so short. (+1)And really hotels in Houston aren't built tall, this is no Miami. Our tallest, the Hyatt Regency, at 30 stories, suffers being located next to true skyscrapers, and makes no visible impact, although you sometimes see it peeking through buildings when your on the freeway.The Hilton-Americas makes a good impact from the Gulf Freeway, and thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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totheskies Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) I think this is the best response to all the people who have complained about the Embassy Suites being so short. (+1)And really hotels in Houston aren't built tall, this is no Miami. Our tallest, the Hyatt Regency, at 30 stories, suffers being located next to true skyscrapers, and makes no visible impact, although you sometimes see it peeking through buildings when your on the freeway.The Hilton-Americas makes a good impact from the Gulf Freeway, and thats it.They're not right now, but that mentality seriously needs to change. This city is hurting for hotel rooms... especially inside the loop. The Galleria doesn't even have enough for its daily business. Downtown would be able to attract a lot more conventions, festivals, etc. if we had more hotel rooms. Tall is not something I care about, but we need another hotel that is at least the size of the Hilton Americas to be truly competitive.ES is going to make an awesome impact from 45s. Edited April 12, 2010 by totheskies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Good progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) They're not right now, but that mentality seriously needs to change. This city is hurting for hotel rooms... especially inside the loop. The Galleria doesn't even have enough for its daily business. Downtown would be able to attract a lot more conventions, festivals, etc. if we had more hotel rooms. Tall is not something I care about, but we need another hotel that is at least the size of the Hilton Americas to be truly competitive.ES is going to make an awesome impact from 45s.I don't know if the city is really hurting for hotel rooms, last i read in the HBJ, the city's hotel revenues have actually decreased(and predicted to so for the 2nd year in a row), definetely not a sign that more hotel rooms are needed. We're also expected to perform worse than the nation. In the Downtown area, however, you are correct, it does need more hotels. http://houston.bizjo...29/daily31.html What's nice is that this area of DT looks like it will be the hotel district, with the Four Seasons, Hilton, Embassy Suites all close together, and OPP, I really see the potential for more resiential and hotels here to create a more virbrant downtown. Edited April 12, 2010 by citizen4rmptown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) Update by JohnMe on SSP Edited April 21, 2010 by citizen4rmptown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Looks like good progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 So what is the final floor count going to be? 19 or 22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I thought 26... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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