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Obviously you didn't read or completely understand what I was saying. I never said there was an excuse for racism, nor did I say that I didn't think that people should let old grudges die. What's more the racism, discrimination, and prejudice that African Americans experience when they move to previously all-white neighborhoods isn't a thing of the past. The negative experience I had happened recently not in some distant past. All of this notwithstanding, I want to repeat what I said so you will understand. What I said is that while I don't condone, that is accept, what happened to you, your experience might help you understand what others have been through. Although you may not agree, I have found that sometimes it helps me understand what others are going through when I experience a similar situation. Unfortunately your failure to understand what I was saying and your immediate response to jump down my throat is often why people from different racial backgrounds aren't able come to work together toward mutual acceptance, respect and understanding.

I think that when there's a talk of racism, any indication that someone is defending it for any reason at all--or even just looking for a silver lining--is bound to take some flak. Treating anyone differently on account of their skin color isn't just morally wrong, it is stupid. There's no excuse. No defense. No silver lining.

There should be no need for him to understand what others have gone through in the past because--moving into a predominantly black neighborhood--he's almost certainly not the type that would be inflicting such discrimination on others, were the roles reversed. But your response loosely implied that he might learn a lesson from this experience. It comes across as insulting and preachy.

Unfortunately, your failure to understand the impact of what you were saying is why individuals from different racial backgrounds that are in perfect agreement about matters related to racism and discrimination aren't able to come to work together toward mutual acceptance, respect, and understanding.

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There should be no need for him to understand what others have gone through in the past because--moving into a predominantly black neighborhood--he's almost certainly not the type that would be inflicting such discrimination on others, were the roles reversed. But your response loosely implied that he might learn a lesson from this experience. It comes across as insulting and preachy.

I didn't take what millenica said that way. It's good to get first hand experience and, if I were in rapturematt's place, that's probably how I would be looking at it; feeling fortunate to have been able to, in modern times, experience the role of the discriminee. It would tend to make all history in that vein all the richer.

And regarding racial and other types of discrimination in general; it's never personal, just other people reacting based on what they've got in their mind, so I wouldn't get emotional if it happened (and it has a few times) but it would tend to get old fast.

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Listen, I don't want this tread to start racial tension. As I said, I think that it is stupid for anyone to be racist regardless of what color they are. We are not White Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, etc. We are all Americans. This country was built on being a melting pot and sometimes the cultures clash, but once they educate themselves they get of rid of the ignorance and racism.

When I moved into this neighborhood, I knew that I was going to have certain people look at me in a discriminatory way, but since I am not racist, or at least I hope I am not, I knew it would be okay and I would eventually win their trust with my kindness and authenticity. The only one that has not gained trust in me is the one that keeps closed up in her house and never talks to anyone, therefore she is ignorant of the true me and what I am doing for the neighborhood. She does not realize that by me coming in and fixing up the house, I am not only improving my property value, but hers as well. She also does not realize that if she ever needs anything she is alienating herself by acting the way she does to me. She may never ask me for help, and that is her loss, because I would always give it. I am very nice to my neighbors and have a tendency to do several handyman things for them that I could charge them for, but don't because they are my neighbors and I want to take care of them.

By saying that I can now be more sympathetic with how other races are treated because of how I was treated is really, my eyes, the wrong way to approach it. I mean after all, you would assume by how I am, how I treat my neighbors and friends regardless of race, and what neighborhood I moved in that I am pretty sympathetic already. I am probably not the one that needs to learn the lesson. Of course you don't know me, but decided to chime in and said that I could learn a lesson from this experience.

It is going to take the white scolding the white and the black scolding the black for racism. Just like the old saying, "It takes a whold villiage to raise a child," it will take a whole village working together to end the racial discrimination and tension we have towards each other. How do I plan to start? Well, the first way is to stop pointing the finger. Second is by forgiving and forgetting what my neigbor said to me and being there to help her with anything that may come up in the future and continuing to do so until the tension is gone. How do you plan to start?

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I found this little tidbit about Riverside Terrace that you all might be interested in. I also know there was a documentary about Riverside Terrace called, "This is my home. It is not for sale." I would love to see it. Does anyone know how I can get a copy of it?

www.oscarmail.net/houstonfreeways/ebook/South_Freeway_72ppi.pdf

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I didn't take what millenica said that way. It's good to get first hand experience and, if I were in rapturematt's place, that's probably how I would be looking at it; feeling fortunate to have been able to, in modern times, experience the role of the discriminee. It would tend to make all history in that vein all the richer.

And regarding racial and other types of discrimination in general; it's never personal, just other people reacting based on what they've got in their mind, so I wouldn't get emotional if it happened (and it has a few times) but it would tend to get old fast.

I've had the discriminee experience several times. It didn't really endear me to the group to whom the individuals belonged. It didn't make history richer. It was unfortunate. That is all.

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Rapture,

First off congrats for picking RT as your home and project. My wife and I purchased, restored, and resold a home over there and can attest to a lot of what you brought up. We had some negative episodes along with theft and vandalism. On that note when looking for homes you can find the most amazing homes over there for penny's on the dollar compared to the rest of Houston. However one thing that is common among the majority of them is how ragged out they are or even unsuccessful flip homes where the investors property was broken into, vandalized, copper stolen, AC Condensers either stolen or stripped, windows broken, etc... Quite a few properties fitting that description over there which is unfortunate.

We had to end up enlisting our dog to spend the nights over at the property and from that point we had no problems. Still it should not have been required as individuals property should be respected. We also noticed since we live over on the Eastwood side how quickly our streets over here empty out in the mornings as residents head off to work. I noticed the complete opposite over in RT with residents staying home and chatting outside or walking off to the quicky mart or Frenchy's to grab food. I base this upon driving by early in the morning, during the day, early and later afternoon's.

My wife and I thought about doing a second home in the area and I found a few potential projects however the re-work, unknowing what your going to find when you show up, etc... led us away for now at least.

All the best with your projects,

Scharpe St Guy

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I just saw your post; I like hearing such positivity about Riverside Terrace. We bought one of the (seemingly-hated-by-this-forum) Urban Lofts on Calumet a couple of years ago. I have felt dedicated to this neighborhood but I'm having doubts lately. Someone was just (literally moments ago) shot outside our house in Riverside Park. There is an endless problem with other neighborhood residents throwing trash all over the neighborhood. There's broken glass and condoms all over the jungle gym in the park. This urban mama is starting to actually long for the suburbs, for a safer, cleaner place to raise my kids. But I sure do love the commute from here.

I don't have much money (hence the townhouse purchase) so options to move are limited. Those police lights outside right now make me wonder though.

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I just saw your post; I like hearing such positivity about Riverside Terrace. We bought one of the (seemingly-hated-by-this-forum) Urban Lofts on Calumet a couple of years ago. I have felt dedicated to this neighborhood but I'm having doubts lately. Someone was just (literally moments ago) shot outside our house in Riverside Park. There is an endless problem with other neighborhood residents throwing trash all over the neighborhood. There's broken glass and condoms all over the jungle gym in the park. This urban mama is starting to actually long for the suburbs, for a safer, cleaner place to raise my kids. But I sure do love the commute from here.

I don't have much money (hence the townhouse purchase) so options to move are limited. Those police lights outside right now make me wonder though.

You know, I've personally always liked those townhomes, but living next to a park in a transitional neighborhood is just asking for problems.

I'm sorry to hear about the goings-on tonight.

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Lord knows I am pretty brave on transitional neighborhoods, and have no problem with the fabulous Broadway & Bellfort intersection, but the area around that particular park has always had a "roll up the windows, lock the door, and hit the gas" kind of feeling. I love the old Groovy Grill house but personally that particular part of Riverside is just too much for me. Go across the bayou, or over into Timbercrest, and I would be fine. Just not right there, not for me anyway.

Of course not all of Riverside is like that.

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I just saw your post; I like hearing such positivity about Riverside Terrace. We bought one of the (seemingly-hated-by-this-forum) Urban Lofts on Calumet a couple of years ago. I have felt dedicated to this neighborhood but I'm having doubts lately. Someone was just (literally moments ago) shot outside our house in Riverside Park. There is an endless problem with other neighborhood residents throwing trash all over the neighborhood. There's broken glass and condoms all over the jungle gym in the park. This urban mama is starting to actually long for the suburbs, for a safer, cleaner place to raise my kids. But I sure do love the commute from here.

I don't have much money (hence the townhouse purchase) so options to move are limited. Those police lights outside right now make me wonder though.

I have to say that Riverside Park has always scared me a little. There is always traffic (people walking around and starring at you as you drive by) in that area. What I don't understand is why they church that neighbors the park does not get involved with the crime. That is one thing I have noticed about this area. People do not want to get involved and turn their head if they see any wrongdoing. That really needs to stop.

Sarah, your area will change, but it will be one of the last to change in Riverside. I would give it a couple of years before you start to see anything major though. We all do need to organize together to spur on the change and get the word out. Riverside is a diamond in the rough. The location is fantastic, the homes are beautiful, the lots are huge. What more can a home buyer ask for. Sure there is crime, but there is crime everywhere, and the more and more we buy the homes, the more of the criminals get bought out and have to move somewhere else. I am not saying that I want them to take their crime somewhere else, but if you are surrounded and concentrated by criminals like you have a tendency to have in Riverside's infamous Riverside Park, Tip Top Grocery, or any run down apartment complex, you are going to have a better tendency of doing a crime. Am I wrong about this?

On the other hand, the crime is not the Riverside that I know. Since I have had my "incident" with my neighbor, I have had every other neighbor come up to me and tell me not to pay attention to that "stupid" lady. They are happy to see me fixing up houses in the are and are very receptive. I know you will feel the same welcome if you come into this area. Sure their might be a few bad eggs left, but they are literally dying off everyday.

On a lighter note, Sarah, there is a seafood resturant that is close to your condo. Do you know if it is open or how good the food is? It might be a perfect place to have lunceons and community gatherings.

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So Sarah, Matt?

You guys still in Riverside?

Me and my husband recently bought one of the houses on Calumet. I have always loved the neighborhood also, and so we finally took the plunge. Our house had the back AC condensers stolen, so we will have to replace those. The house needs work, but I am up for the challenege. I was sold on the curb appeal. :)

We are close to the park though unsure.gif .

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