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Gov. Rick Perry conducted a ceremonial signing of House Bill 3678 aimed at reaffirming students' rights to express religious viewpoints. Perry officially signed the bill, also known as the Religious Viewpoints Anti-Discrimination Act, in June.

The bill does not create a new law but rather provides a model policy that school districts can adopt.

"What it does is create a win-win situation for the schoolchildren, school administrators and the taxpayers of the state of Texas," Howard said. Many school districts across the state, he said, have been sued by parents after children were prohibited from talking about their faith, saying "Merry Christmas" or handing out religious Valentine's Day cards.

Using case law and U.S. Supreme Court decisions, the bill lays out what is admissible in Texas schools. The Supreme Court has ruled that religious discussion in schools is legal.

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Gov. Rick Perry conducted a ceremonial signing of House Bill 3678 aimed at reaffirming students' rights to express religious viewpoints. Perry officially signed the bill, also known as the Religious Viewpoints Anti-Discrimination Act, in June.

The bill does not create a new law but rather provides a model policy that school districts can adopt.

"What it does is create a win-win situation for the schoolchildren, school administrators and the taxpayers of the state of Texas," Howard said. Many school districts across the state, he said, have been sued by parents after children were prohibited from talking about their faith, saying "Merry Christmas" or handing out religious Valentine's Day cards.

Using case law and U.S. Supreme Court decisions, the bill lays out what is admissible in Texas schools. The Supreme Court has ruled that religious discussion in schools is legal.

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Great news. Freedom of religion, I love it.

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Wow. Passing a law to allow something that is already legal. What a novel concept. What next, the "Right To Wear Pants Act"? How about the "Right To Breath Out Of Your Mouth Anti-Descrimination Act"?

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oh well, it could be worse - like working religion in to school time through a pledge or something :rolleyes:

here's a little sample of the bill (HB3678):

Sec. 25.152.

A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM; SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICY.

(a)To ensure that the school district does not discriminate

against a student

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An example of the expression of religious viewpoints encouraged by Gov. Perry's new law.

come on vert, i mean red.

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...a school district shall adopt a policy, which must include the

establishment of a limited public forum for student speakers at all

school events at which a student is to publicly speak.

Finally little Jenna will have a public forum to speak out about her religion...

jenna_satan.jpg

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This is a good thing for Texas. I always thought it was strange we had to learn one way over the other.

I'm confused. What way over the other?

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You realize that this bill the governor signed has nothing to do with that, don't you? It merely codifies a student's right to express his or her religious views on campus, a right already guaranteed by the US Constitution.

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Yeah, all of us in Santa Fe ISD are painfully aware of that constitutional right. Several wing nut religious types on our school board thought it was their divine calling to fight two student's parents all the way to the Supreme Court several years ago just to prove that point. These idiots forgot that they were elected by the people, not appointed by God. We promptly reminded them of that at the next available election.

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I did not read the bill and just assumed, my bad. I was doing some research on a paper and found this little boy got in trouble and started this big deal because the teacher asked to bring in his favoriate book and it was the Bible. I was mad about that and I thought that was wrong.

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Gov. Rick Perry conducted a ceremonial ...full article

So once again musicman has pasted from the Chron with no comment. Any of us could do that all day long...but most of us don't unless we have a publicly expressed thought or opinion to follow the paste. So does eating up bandwith by posting from a source most of us already access add to the value HAIF already offers? Does it ever occur to you that this forum doesn't need your prodding by way of a second hand public paste to generate thoughtful discussion? There is little worth in taking up bandwidth via repitition. It's a practice that thankfully most of us don't practice.

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Yeah, all of us in Santa Fe ISD are painfully aware of that constitutional right. Several wing nut religious types on our school board thought it was their divine calling to fight two student's parents all the way to the Supreme Court several years ago just to prove that point. These idiots forgot that they were elected by the people, not appointed by God. We promptly reminded them of that at the next available election.

So in other words, the people protecting freedom of religion won at the US Supreme Court?

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So once again musicman has pasted from the Chron with no comment. Any of us could do that all day long...but most of us don't unless we have a publicly expressed thought or opinion to follow the paste. So does eating up bandwith by posting from a source most of us already access add to the value HAIF already offers? Does it ever occur to you that this forum doesn't need your prodding by way of a second hand public paste to generate thoughtful discussion? There is little worth in taking up bandwidth via repitition. It's a practice that thankfully most of us don't practice.
:lol: lol
come on vert, i mean red.
You mean to say that I bring up religion on Haif? Please explain.I have only discussed status on the new church construction downtown. You mean that is discussing religion? Please explain for all viewers.

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You mean to say that I bring up religion on Haif? Please explain.I have only discussed status on the new church construction downtown. You mean that is discussing religion? Please explain for all viewers.

his post was an exaggeration....as have been many of your recent ones. ;)

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his post was an exaggeration....as have been many of your recent ones. ;)

Wow, I didn't think I was that interesting. It would be great if you started noting all the comments/topics, etc where you are convinced I am exagerrating. Isn't it odd that numerous others back up some of my comments? When I speak of crime in certain areas, it is truthfull. Let's see I even placed real historical photographs to detail the cities past and this is also exagerration? Theres more to it than that I'm afraid.

When I do exaggarate a little, I normally note that it is in jest. Not to be taken seriously.

I all is in the readers attitude. Again, if you wish, create a list of subjects and let me know so we can go over them. I could go on but I don't believe in public humiliation.

OR you know what, I will forget all of this and let's move on and forget it ever happened. I hate how others here carry on grudges. Childish

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Wow, I didn't think I was that interesting. It would be great if you started noting all the comments/topics, etc where you are convinced I am exagerrating. Isn't it odd that numerous others back up some of my comments? When I speak of crime in certain areas, it is truthfull. Let's see I even placed real historical photographs to detail the cities past and this is also exagerration? Theres more to it than that I'm afraid.

When I do exaggarate a little, I normally note that it is in jest. Not to be taken seriously.

I all is in the readers attitude. Again, if you wish, create a list of subjects and let me know so we can go over them. I could go on but I don't believe in public humiliation.

OR you know what, I will forget all of this and let's move on and forget it ever happened. I hate how others here carry on grudges. Childish

to compare blacks in pearland as people who just stepped out of TDC is an exaggeration IMO or is that exaggerating a little?

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to compare blacks in pearland as people who just stepped out of TDC is an exaggeration IMO or is that exaggerating a litte?

Its best you go to the very beginning of this topic and reread. I never said blacks. Other people named the races, not me.

Common sense tells anyone that prisons have ALL races behind bars. When I visited the Target store, I saw more trailor trash than any other. These are the men I was referring to. Why are you so concerned about Pearland anyway? Just get over it. Get to work.

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Its best you go to the very beginning of this topic and reread. I never said blacks. Other people named the races, not me.

Common sense tells anyone that prisons have ALL races behind bars. When I visited the Target store, I saw more trailor trash than any other. These are the men I was referring to. Why are you so concerned about Pearland anyway? Just get over it. Get to work.

and all these other races looked like they stepped out of TDC? what does a person from TDC resemble....a shopper in pearland? or is this a little exaggeration too? Oh wait, you don't exaggerate. B)

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and all these other races looked like they stepped out of TDC? what does a person from TDC resemble....a shopper in pearland? or is this a little exaggeration too? Oh wait, you don't exaggerate. B)

Lets start with tatoos up and down the whole body, gangsta attire, swagger. Your not that naive get real. Well they look just like the ones around Gulfgate area. To clarify these thugs were blended in with very conservative looking people in that specific store. Untwist some of your silly out of context exaggerated phrases.

You have really hijacked this one big time, good lord. OOpps I said Lord , now I'm a religious fanatic huh? making this forum a tabloid magazine. Stop trying to make others look like bad guys.

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To clarify these thugs were blended in with very conservative looking people in that specific store. Untwist some of your silly out of context exaggerated phrases.

exaggerated phrases like....

Anyway, this was real, not imagined and no exagerrating. These men were well over 40 yrs old but appeared to be straight out of TDC or the like.
Stop trying to make others look like bad guys.

i'll leave that to you.

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Some kids in my high school had religious quotes as their senior quotes in the yearbook. I am fine with this as it counts as a student's expression of herself.

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There is a difference between the right to express personal religious beliefs and making it a large public show like it was at Santa Fe's football games.

If it was a Muslim leading a prayer they would have started a riot there and shut it down.

Marian Ward (sp?) could have just handed out flyers to her church or whatever at the gates and it'd all be cool. In Texas City I used to get stopped by church people roaming Ninth Avenue after the football game. No Supreme Court battles there.

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If a student wants to pray, they should be allowed to. If a group of students wants to have a daily prayer meeting, they should be allowed to. If muslim students want to hold prayer, they should be allowed to.

The establishment clause is not intended to BANISH religion from public institution but rather to avoid the state from requiring such displays. Being that there are many religions, it does complicate the situation. But it should not be abandoned simply because it is complicated.

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This reminds me of a Snickers commercial during the *Not Going Anywhere For Awhile?* ad campaign...it had a football team holding a *PC* pre-game prayer with a reverend, a rabbi, a Hare Krishna etc.

I like the idea of the moment of silence. Pray to (insert hypothetical higher power) here silently. Matthew 6:5. B)

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There is a difference between the right to express personal religious beliefs and making it a large public show like it was at Santa Fe's football games.

Isn't that like saying, "There's a big difference between the right to free speech and making it a large public show like saying what you believe on television?"

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So in other words, the people protecting freedom of religion won at the US Supreme Court?

Yes they did. And we promptly un-elected them one by one until they were all gone. Now we have school board members in SFISD that conduct themselves as they were elected and sworn to do.

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I'm confused as to the problem that exists with a moment of silence or a prayer for the safety of the players before a game. Even if you don't believe in God it's not like it's going to hurt anything.

And if prayer is out..then maybe a moment of silience to hope for the safety of everyone involved?

Edited by AJXterra

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I'm confused as to the problem that exists with a moment of silence or a prayer for the safety of the players before a game. Even if you don't believe in God it's not like it's going to hurt anything.

And if prayer is out..then maybe a moment of silience to hope for the safety of everyone envolved?

People won't always admit openly but they DO gripe openly that prayer bothers them just to get attention. It's all about attention. Website Forums are no exception, if anything it brings the nuts out of the wood work. That would never happen here of course.

Edited by Vertigo58

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People won't always admit openly but they DO gripe openly that prayer bothers them just to get attention. It's all about attention. Website Forums are no exception, if anything it brings the nuts out of the wood work. That would never happen here of course.

Dude, put down the crack pipe. :lol:

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Dude, put down the crack pipe. :lol:

Don't be talking about a cracked pipe around this plumber. I'll be trying to fix it. ;)

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