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It's Official: Diversity Causes Misery

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For decades, Americans have been bashed over the head with the politically-motivated multicultural mantra of "embrace diversity". Forget about unity. Homogeneous became a bad word. Year after year, elitist Left wing intellectuals pronounced from on high: "Suck it up whitebreads, diversity is a good thing and if you don't agree, then you're a racist bigot".

Only now, it's finally been scientifically proven what we've known all along, the 'embrace diverstiy' leftists are psychotic.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/art...e_of_diversity/

Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam discovered, to his liberal dismay, that diverse populations are miserable. His study found that the "greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote, the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity, the less they trust one another"!

Putnam was quite clear that the ethnic groups in these diverse communitites didn't hate each other, on the contrary; they were simply overwhelmed with a feeling of hopelessness and retreated, like turtles, away from civic life. He found that the more diverse a community is, the more dysfuntional it becomes!

All the diverse international flavors of Houston need to start assimilating into the American culture. A house divided can't stand and it apparently doesn't give a flying leap about the greater good either.

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In his paper, Putnam cites the work done by Page and others, and uses it to help frame his conclusion that increasing diversity in America is not only inevitable, but ultimately valuable and enriching. As for smoothing over the divisions that hinder civic engagement, Putnam argues that Americans can help that process along through targeted efforts. He suggests expanding support for English-language instruction and investing in community centers and other places that allow for "meaningful interaction across ethnic lines."

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Man this is going to get ugly.

LOL it was an interesting article. i do agree that there is less civic involvement now.

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LOL it was an interesting article. i do agree that there is less civic involvement now.

"Putnam's work adds to a growing body of research indicating that more diverse populations seem to extend themselves less on behalf of collective needs and goals."

Like will always attract like more easily that opposites attracting each other, and with today's tendencies toward not interacting with one's neighbors anyway, I'm not surprised at all by the results of this study. People need common goals and interests in order to create collective energy.

It's always seemed to me that the attraction for diversity among the educated class was more for an eye candy and feelgood experience about where they lived than about actually interacting with different people.

In Houston, the immigrants who speak spanish are especially difficult to interact with. Our civic club has tried everything we can think of to get them involved, with no results. I had an Amercian born hispanic man come up to me at National Night Out last week and, after hearing a speech about how neighborhoods used to interact with one another and watch out for each other, he says, "the Mexicans from Mexico don't want to have anything to do with me". My neighbor from Mexico has been rather friendly. But civic involvement? Fagetaboutit. Not interested and doesn't know how either. Concerns seem to end where his fence begins.

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It's always seemed to me that the attraction for diversity among the educated class was more for an eye candy and feelgood experience about where they lived than about actually interacting with different people.

so this is why you settled down in Pecan Park? eye candy? ;)

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so this is why you settled down in Pecan Park? eye candy? ;)

Yeah, the Latinas around here are hot and they feel good too! :P

But seriously, I liked the idea of living inner city and the house was a real find. My being fluent in spanish and having a lot of experience with Mexicans allowed for a more comfortable transition for me than it would have been had I not ever lived or interacted with that culture before. I was able to be a pioneer and get a jump on gentrification due to being somewhat bi-cultural.

Fear of the unknown was minimal.

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LOL it was an interesting article. i do agree that there is less civic involvement now.

I don't know about that. I just think Katrina took a big chunk out of us, and those of us that would help and are willing are STILL very tired from it. I like diversity, and obviously "Mr. Harvard Professor" has never visited Houston, so he gets a big ..l., !!!

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I don't know about that. I just think Katrina took a big chunk out of us, and those of us that would help and are willing are STILL very tired from it. I like diversity, and obviously "Mr. Harvard Professor" has never visited Houston, so he gets a big ..l., !!!

katrina is a one time event. what do you normally that would be considered civic involvement?

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katrina is a one time event. what do you normally that would be considered civic involvement?

I help my fellow HAIFers when they are in need. I am courteous to others on the roads around town. I help coach a youth soccer team. Yadda yadda yadda.

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Tj, I think you should give rides in ye old Chevelle to all of us who aren't allowed to have sports cars. That to me is civic involvement. :P

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I help my fellow HAIFers when they are in need. I am courteous to others on the roads around town. I help coach a youth soccer team.

that's great!

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so this is why you settled down in Pecan Park? eye candy? ;)

Were you just born mean and bitter or just so deep in the closet that you have an irresistable need to vent your skank? Get a grip, gayboy and get some help. Please put us out of your misery.

(escaped from MD and posted from Reliant in the 2nd as our Texans lead (barely)...

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Were you just born mean and bitter or just so deep in the closet that you have an irresistable need to vent your skank? Get a grip, gayboy and get some help. Please put us out of your misery.

(escaped from MD and posted from Reliant in the 2nd as our Texans lead (barely)...

And the point of this post wasn't mean and bitter? :closedeyes: It certainly wasn't topical.

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And the point of this post wasn't mean and bitter? :closedeyes: It certainly wasn't topical.

No. But it was topical because musicman injected the "eyecandy" crack regarding Pecan Park.

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Were you just born mean and bitter or just so deep in the closet that you have an irresistable need to vent your skank? Get a grip, gayboy and get some help. Please put us out of your misery.

(escaped from MD and posted from Reliant in the 2nd as our Texans lead (barely)...

What the hell? I had to re-read the thread to make sure I didn't miss something. As usual, you are out in left field - all alone. Stop posting drunk.

Now, back on topic. I can give three examples of how this is true.

1. I have a white friend who lives in (as far as I can tell) an all white enclave of the Woodlands. He is very invloved with his neighborhood, and after only living there for a year, he damn near knows every one in a three-block radius by first name, and can even tell you what they do for a living.

2. I have a friend who is black and lives in an all black community in the Willow Ridge area (BW8 & Fondren). Same exact scenario as my white friend. He knows everyone, everyone knows him, and they're all involved with their community.

3. My neighborhood is a perfect mix of white, black, hispanic & asian. I know my neighbors one house to the left, and one house to the right. I've been there for two years now and have yet to meet more than 5 other neighbors on my street. We (myself, wife, & baby-girl) are in the yard at least 3 nights every week, yet hardly anyone wants to walk, or when we walk, no one is outside. Like the article states, everyone retreats to their home and locks the door. We've gone to all our neighborhood HOA meetings as well and each time the same 25-40 people show up.

Maybe my neighborhood is the exception to the rule, but I doubt it is not.

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As usual, you are out in left field - all alone.
Actually sounds like he's made the professor's study sound all more plausible. Diversity does cause misery. B)
We've gone to all our neighborhood HOA meetings as well and each time the same 25-40 people show up.
25-40? your neighborhood should feel lucky. there are many that wish they could get that many to go.

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The Unity event planners in Houston need to maybe realize that segregation is not good thing for any community.

Enough of the racial victimhood....all for one and one for all!

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Houston's neighborhoods (in terms of houses, and in terms of separation of houses and apartments) tend to be homogeneous. I see racial mixing in public places (schools, stores, libraries, etc) in Houston.

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It's always seemed to me that the attraction for diversity among the educated class was more for an eye candy and feelgood experience about where they lived than about actually interacting with different people.

That's been my experience as well. They say diversity should be valued because of the different ideas and perspectives that different people bring. Of course, when you bring different ideas and perspectives on the very subject of diversity, you find out that it's not what they mean at all. I've discovered that their true definition of diversity is people who look different from each other but think alike.

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Houston's neighborhoods (in terms of houses, and in terms of separation of houses and apartments) tend to be homogeneous. I see racial mixing in public places (schools, stores, libraries, etc) in Houston.

Au contraire. There is no meangingful racial mixing anywhere in this city...even with the eyecandy in Pecan Park (what does that mean?)...that's the point of the study. Diverse populations, (and it's not limited to diversity of skin color) have less trust and are less productive than those communities who are on the same page together embracing similar values.

And FYI, simply walking past someone of a different color in the library or Krogers doesn't count as racial mixing Vic. Just take a look at HISD, prime example of diversity and completely dysfuntional! Their schools and administration have a lot of diversity but are segregated by race, gang, and immigration status...miserable places and completely substandard.

Diversity is overrated. We have the proof. The question is how to unifiy. Maybe we can start by convincing some of our neighbors to take down their Mexican flags.

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In Houston, the immigrants who speak spanish are especially difficult to interact with. Our civic club has tried everything we can think of to get them involved, with no results. I had an Amercian born hispanic man come up to me at National Night Out last week and, after hearing a speech about how neighborhoods used to interact with one another and watch out for each other, he says, "the Mexicans from Mexico don't want to have anything to do with me". My neighbor from Mexico has been rather friendly. But civic involvement? Fagetaboutit. Not interested

Hit the nail on the head.

There are no excuses for not getting involved. The part of it being a language barrier is bull. Our Super Neighborhood gatherings are spoken in both languages if needed. Majority of these people are ready to whine and gripe but how bad the surroundings are but truth is they are lazy. Period. I can go into detail but all of you know from my/others past postings. 20-25 years ago I can attest that 85% of our area used to participate in most community events. Majority fled for the burbs and with all the renters that are now here-yeah, Fagetabouit. They have the I'm only passing through" mentality. They just party and destroy the place until they get busted, etc. (There are many ex-cons in these areas folks)

Now if they started having free beer at these Community Events you will have a packed house. Ola! :wacko:

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There are no excuses for not getting involved. The part of it being a language barrier is bull. Our Super Neighborhood gatherings are spoken in both languages if needed.
i've been to the superneighborhood meetings in your area several times in the last yr, they are about as wonder bread as you can get.

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i've been to the superneighborhood meetings in your area several times in the last yr, they are about as wonder bread as you can get.

What is wonder bread? You mean anglo only? I'm guessing if you could explain please.

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What is wonder bread? You mean anglo only?
good guess. i know 2 hispanics that go but don't speak spanish.

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Tj, I think you should give rides in ye old Chevelle to all of us who aren't allowed to have sports cars. That to me is civic involvement. :P

Gary, I have to draw the line SOMEWHERE ! The Cutlass is strictly off-limits

btw, musicman, by using your "WonderBread" logic, are you inferring that only white people actually CARE about what's going on in their communities ? Do you live in this "superneighborhood" ?

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Gary, I have to draw the line SOMEWHERE ! The Cutlass is strictly off-limits

btw, musicman, by using your "WonderBread" logic, are you inferring that only white people actually CARE about what's going on in their communities ? Do you live in this "superneighborhood" ?

Ooops, I meant Cutlass, not Chevelle. Oh what the hell they both start with C. :P

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btw, musicman, by using your "WonderBread" logic, are you inferring that only white people actually CARE about what's going on in their communities ? Do you live in this "superneighborhood" ?

it's adjacent to the one i'm in. they've mentioned merging several times but i think it would probably be more effective if everyone has their own superneighborhood.

i'm strictly talking this superneighborhood.

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That would be a cool bumper sticker but I think College Station already owns the copyright on it.

Are you kidding me? The powers that be at TAMU are so sensitive about the diversity issue that they are overcompensating, big-time. They are driving the jacked-up, oversized tires, naked-lady mudflaps diversity truck.

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There are no excuses for not getting involved. The part of it being a language barrier is bull. Our Super Neighborhood gatherings are spoken in both languages if needed. Majority of these people are ready to whine and gripe but how bad the surroundings are but truth is they are lazy. Period.

..................Now if they started having free beer at these Community Events you will have a packed house. Ola! :wacko:

The truth is no one is really sure of why the immigrants won't get involved. Our nabe even has a team from Rice U. doing "ethnographic" research because they've had very little response to their attempts to get residents to use, for free, a new device that will monitor medical conditions and relay vital stats via the wireless network that they've installed in Pecan Park. There are some very hard working people here so lazy probably isn't the best term. Suspicious, distrustful of government and people not "of their kind" might be more accurate.

Which adds credence to the Harvard study's results.

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Suspicious, distrustful of government and people not "of their kind" might be more accurate.

Which adds credence to the Harvard study's results.

Correct you are again, and the Suspicious, etc you state above is exactly correct same as if a person was shoplifting or sneaking into a theater. Guilt is a major factor as well. If I robbed a bank, would I go in and say Hi it's me! to everyone 30 minutes later?

Distrustful of Govt. Sure. If you know you are breaking the law, of course you don't like authority.

Finally the ignorance of not wanting to assimilate. All of us have been through this same topic again and again. Never an answer. If you read the Chron and the comments from all of Houston, well that tells all. Haif is just a spec of universal opinion. Not just mine.

Ola chamacco's!

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1. http://www.studygs.net/tsttak2a.htm - Says it all!

"Absolute words restrict possibilities.

These imply the statement must be true 100% of the time and usually cue a "false" answer

e.g.: "No" "never" "none" "always" "every" "entirely" "only" "

with that out of the way...

2. "And FYI, simply walking past someone of a different color in the library or Krogers doesn't count as racial mixing Vic."

There's always a chance to start a conversation:

* Oh, what is halal meat?

* Hey, I notice that you are reading Freud in German. Why aren't you are reading it in English?

* Oh, Federico Garcia Lorca! I love his works!

And library and other community-sponsored events (computer classes, puppet shows, storytime) bring audiences together to partake in the experiences collectively.

3. Remember what was said about absolutes above?

People who go/went to HISD magnets (me) would laugh at that statement.

4. I see that the United States is unified on one level and diverse on other levels. In an ideal situation, this will give our country the advantages of both ideals and the disadvantages of none. Realistically, this does not always happen (i. e. the point about community associations), but the good news is that we can mend racial relationships to get as close to the ideal as humanly possible.

Au contraire. There is no meangingful racial mixing anywhere in this city...even with the eyecandy in Pecan Park (what does that mean?)...that's the point of the study. Diverse populations, (and it's not limited to diversity of skin color) have less trust and are less productive than those communities who are on the same page together embracing similar values.

And FYI, simply walking past someone of a different color in the library or Krogers doesn't count as racial mixing Vic. Just take a look at HISD, prime example of diversity and completely dysfuntional! Their schools and administration have a lot of diversity but are segregated by race, gang, and immigration status...miserable places and completely substandard.

Diversity is overrated. We have the proof. The question is how to unifiy. Maybe we can start by convincing some of our neighbors to take down their Mexican flags.

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There's something to be said for the idea that there is an optimal level of diversity and that optimal level still incorporates a majority of one ethnic group. The trick is to have enough of various ethnic groups that the minorities must integrate with the majority to be able to function in society and so that they cannot splinter off into their own seperate community.

For instance, there are enough Mexicans in many parts of Houston that a child of a Mexican immigrant could go their whole life and not speak English if they really don't want to. The incentives for assimilation are much lower than, for instance, a Nigerian...or even the very same Mexican if they lived in The Woodlands.

I have an example: UH. It always annoyed me to see all the various ethnic communities form their own clubs and organizations. UH may be a highly diverse school, but for the most part, there is very little need for members of a minority ethnic group to escape their comfort zone because they can fulfill their social needs within it. And at least IMO, every one of the ethnic groups--including whatever the pluralistic majority group was--became the worse off for it.

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It's Official: Diversity Causes Misery, Harvard Political Scientist's Study

And here I thought it was just the "marriage" thing that caused my misery...I never realized it was the "interracial marriage!"

If only I'd married into my own race, I'd be living in marital bliss! :blink::P

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And here I thought it was just the "marriage" thing that caused my misery...I never realized it was the "interracial marriage!"

If only I'd married into my own race, I'd be living in marital bliss! :blink::P

Think again pal ! ! ! :P:lol:

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I have an example: UH. It always annoyed me to see all the various ethnic communities form their own clubs and organizations. UH may be a highly diverse school, but for the most part, there is very little need for members of a minority ethnic group to escape their comfort zone because they can fulfill their social needs within it. And at least IMO, every one of the ethnic groups--including whatever the pluralistic majority group was--became the worse off for it.

I don't get your last sentence but for the most part it is true and for all the B.S. the Muslim community goes through these days, they seem the most "cliquish" of the different groups at U of H. Any person or student does not need to spend a week on campus to know this. I am not calling for conformity or the whole "melting pot" or what some people call white wash, but you can still go outside your "comfort zone" without losing your culture or who you are.

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In fact, one of the tips in my university guide books states that one must strive to explore diversity; he or she has to escape (verb) his or her comfort zone in order to experience different types of people. This does not come automatically in life.

I suppose that this is true in and outside of university.

For instance, there are enough Mexicans in many parts of Houston that a child of a Mexican immigrant could go their whole life and not speak English if they really don't want to. The incentives for assimilation are much lower than, for instance, a Nigerian...or even the very same Mexican if they lived in The Woodlands.

And this has been happening for decades. This Snopes article discusses why the "old immigrants versus new immigrants" debate is not true: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp

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In fact, one of the tips in my university guide books states that one must strive to explore diversity; he or she has to escape (verb) his or her comfort zone in order to experience different types of people. This does not come automatically in life.

I suppose that this is true in and outside of university.

not sure if I agree with this. "strive to explore diversity" is a little over the top. For me it pretty much is automatic.

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I've been following this thread for a while now trying to decide whether or not to throw in my 2 cents, especially since anthropologists are supposed to know something about diversity. A couple of points. First while I agree with Putnam's conclusions about diversity being associated with lower levels of civic engagement, I feel it is important to emphasize something I mentioned before: that in research studies, correlation does not necessarily mean causation. Just because two event occur simultaneously or two things are correlated doesn't mean one caused the other. In statistics, it is generally accepted that observational studies can give hints (comparing academic achievement of students who are in small classes versus the achievement of those in large classes) but can never establish cause and effect. The only studies that researchers consider to be causal are those that use randomized experiments, which is accepted gold standard for causation. In the case just mentioned, a randomized experiment would require taking a large number of students, randomly assigning them into two groups, one in small classes the other in large classes then determining whether one group achieve a significantly higher score on some outcome measure, for example, an standardized achievement test. Unfortunately, in many real world situations, not only isn't it possible to use random assignment, it would be unethical. The difficulty of conducting randomized experiments in many of the social science fields is one reason that scholars in these fields continue to argue and bicker about their findings and whether a particular study has demonstrated something conclusively.

As far as providing examples/counterexamples of how diversity influences civic involvement as Jeebus did, let me say that I've lived in several different communities--some diverse some not. In one of the diverse communities, civic involvement was high, in another, it wasn't. In one of the homogeneous communities, civic involvement was high in other it was not. In Philadelphia, I lived in a very diverse community where civic involvement was high, but which may have been accounted for by the fact that everyone was a faculty or staff member at the nearby university. On the other hand, when I lived in Chapel Hill, NC in an equally diverse community, levels of civic involvement were fairly low, which could have been attributed to the fact that the neighborhood was more transient and was composed of a more heterogeneous group than only university employees. I have also lived in 2 all-Black communities, one with high levels of civic involvement, the other with none. Currently, I live in a predominantly white neighborhood in the SF Bay Area (there are only 2 Black families living in the neighborhood) where I have tried to get people involved in dealing with some of the situations about which various neighbors have expressed concern. What I have learned is that the neighborhood doesn't have a tradition of civic involvement which was established (or perhaps I should say not established) long before I moved here. And frankly, my neighbors have made it clear that they weren't interested before and aren't interested now. In fact, the people who have lived in the neighborhood for a while claim that all of the push for civic involvement is something brought in by newcomers who don't understand the way things are done. I mention this only because I think it is possible that other factors could also contribute to the presence or absence of civic involvement. This suggests what Putnam (and others have) stated that it likely requires more than simply having people from different racial backgrounds occupy the same space to get them productively involved with each other. Also as danax noted, people really aren't sure why immigrants don't get involved. Some believe, as danax noted, that distrust of the government could be a factor. Even some government agencies are trying to find out if this is one reason immigrants don't get involved, what other reasons might be, and are taking steps to figure out how to get their cooperation. The Census Bureau has hired anthropologists who have studied various immigrant communities to help figure out how to get different groups to participate in the Census. Because of my ethnographic research in several Haitian communities, I was hired to help figure out how to get more members of the Haitian community to participate in the census.

Although many people use assimilation as a global term, I find it helpful to use two different terms-- acculturation as opposed assimilation, something that social scientists frequently do, to talk about slightly different processes that sometimes co-occur and sometimes don't. Assimilation is achieved by law, policy and attitude that actively encourages immigrants to become fellow Americans and identify with the US as a nation Acculturation, on the other hand is the immigrants' willingness to abandon their original cultural attributes and conform entirely to the behaviors, specifically the superficial cultural features of the dominant society-the food, dress, speech and etiquette-- of the majority of the native-born population. Sociologists and anthropologists refer to the process of conforming to superficial cultural features of the dominant society as acculturation. The conventional wisdom about whether immigrants or their descendants are assimilating is usually based on how much of their native cultural heritages they have discarded and how culturally "American" they seem. Using this standard, a foreign-born teenager listening to rock music on his iPod wearing a baseball cap backward, and speaking accent-free English is "assimilated," whereas an Amish farmer is not. We often see acculturation, but not assimilation among teenagers from immigrant backgrounds who can be acculturated (the immigrant teenager listening to rock music on his iPod wearing a baseball cap backward, eating McDonald's and other fast foods) and not assimilated. And there are some groups in the US who are assimilated and not acculturated. Some examples are Mormons, Hassidic Jews, the Amish, Sikhs. A number of sociologists and anthropologists who have studied this phenomenon have concluded that children and teenagers from immigrant families who acculturate quickly to US adolescent norms frequently do less well in school, have more negative encounters with the legal system, more conflicts with parents and teachers, have poorer health outcomes both physical and mental than children and teenagers who remain more culturally encapsulated. It is worth noting, that many academics who study the US believe the process of assimilating immigrants has been more successful than it has in some European countries--consider the situation of North Africans in France-- is because in the US assimilation has been more flexible and accommodating, which because it has not meant repudiating immigrant culture, has been more effective in achieving its purpose.

Last I agree that college campuses are often marked by the presence of ethnically identifiable groups with little border crossing between the groups. Plenty of folks have written about the phenomenon, attempted to explain why it exists and some have even offered suggestions about how to change the situation. But, if I get into that I will have put in much more than 2 cents worth.

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you can still go outside your "comfort zone" without losing your culture or who you are.

I agree wholeheartedly with the above.

PS, I just want to give an example of ignorance:

I recall years ago at a party people were sitting around making idle chit chat. I was with 2 ladies that were not used to being around a mixed crowd (coworkers). An African-American lady is standing nearby and we start talking about music, we dance and come back to our spot near the stairs. One of these other 2 women start asking her if she is into Motown like they are? I thought this had to be one of the stupidest things to bring up. Not that Motown is bad but they based it on the fact that she was of a different color. They tried to act like they knew all about it or could relate to it. I could have kicked her in the stomache. (the coworker) I felt bad for the lady I danced with because she was only being sociable. She rose up to the occasion and let it go and walked away.

Some people think because you have a Spanish surname that you only speak Spanish? What? How ignorant.

When I worked in International Exporting, majority of my accounts did not have Spanish sounding last names. Most were in Argentina, Venezuaela, Peru, Brazil, etc and do not have Spanish 1st or last names but they spoke perfect Catalan. Most of the clients I knew looked more European than Latin as well. In the US, some (ignorant) people think since you have a Spanish last name that all you eat is Mexican food. :wacko:

I once worked with a guy that said well don't all Hispanic people like spicy foods?

Again, people keep judging by appearance. Perceptions people. Sadly, enough some groups keep on stereotyping themselves and have no problem admitting it. I wont even start naming the comedians that do this for a living. This is what sets everyone back 100 years as well.

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In the US, some (ignorant) people think since you have a Spanish last name that all you eat is Mexican food. :wacko:

I'm a white guy with a french last name and all I eat is Mexican food. B)

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... anthropologists are supposed to know something about diversity.

The 'embrace diversity' crowd on the Left w/its political agenda has created, and shoved down the throats of Americans, this fantastic and unsound idea called "culture as a tossed salad metaphor" along with the weird and wacky notion of "multiculturalism".

Neither of these two invented concepts exist in anthropological theory. There is simply a culture with sub-cultures.

Naturally, the politically correct language police frowns on any group being labeled as "sub" lest someone be offended (and of course the White oppresors can't be allowed dominant status) so instead throw anthropoligical findings out the window and create their own perverse system.

-- is because in the US assimilation has been more flexible and accommodating, which because it has not meant repudiating immigrant culture, has been more effective in achieving its purpose.

The American system is not more accommodating or flexible. This country was founded on very clear ideas and values---and clearly does repudiate many immigrant values and rightly so. Americans do not embrace seventh century middle eastern culture, we do not embrace women as chattel, we do not embrace the Venezulan government control of the press or the Mexican culture of 'mordida'--bribery of judges and police, to give just a few examples.

The list of what Americans are inflexible about is long...and thank goodness! No female circumsion in Iowa. No infanticide in Jersey. Stoning women isn't going to happen in Los Angeles. Islam isn't going to replace the U.S. Constitution in Idaho. Tolerance is overrated. Diversity is overrated.

Americans unite! :lol:

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I'm a white guy with a french last name and all I eat is Mexican food. B)

I am a whiteguy with a Welsh last name, and if I had the choice, all I would eat is Mexican Food. Meat, beans, rice, salsa, and tortillas. What else do you need ?

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The American system is not more accommodating or flexible. This country was founded on very clear ideas and values---and clearly does repudiate many immigrant values and rightly so. Americans do not embrace seventh century middle eastern culture, we do not embrace women as chattel, we do not embrace the Venezulan government control of the press or the Mexican culture of 'mordida'--bribery of judges and police, to give just a few examples.

The list of what Americans are inflexible about is long...and thank goodness! No female circumsion in Iowa. No infanticide in Jersey. Stoning women isn't going to happen in Los Angeles. Islam isn't going to replace the U.S. Constitution in Idaho. Tolerance is overrated. Diversity is overrated.

Americans unite! :lol:

Yes, the big bad liberal intellectual elite are it it again. How dare people try to progress and force others to follow.

This country would have been better if we had jumped on the Toggle3 bandwagon hundreds of years ago back when there was "ONE" real America.

That America didn't allow women to vote. That America condoned slavery and later Jim Crow. That America turned a blind eye when the "REAL" Americans decided to enforce things on their own via lynchings, cross burnings, and more. That America didn't mix the sexes or races in matters of education and work.

Ah, those were the good old days!

Good luck on your quest to recreate them, Toggle3. I say you bring your vision to Emancipation Park next Juneteenth to share your ONE AMERICA/ONE AMERICAN view.

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I'm quite happy and content when I go to the University of Houston and am surrounded by so many different people. If anyone was miserable I doubt they would even consider going there. I don't think you'll succeed in rewinding that kind of progress anywhere. We're your future. Isn't that scary? Call the police, progress is trying to taking place.

Conclusion: Diversity causes Toggle Misery.

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That America didn't allow women to vote. That America condoned slavery and later Jim Crow. That America turned a blind eye when the "REAL" Americans decided to enforce things on their own via lynchings, cross burnings, and more. That America didn't mix the sexes or races in matters of education and work.

This is exactly what I meant earlier.

Those who claim to "value diversity" can't handle a little diversity of opinion on the very subject of diversity.

The above post is a prime example of that.

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