Washington Avenue Renderings

[sowanome 12]

Took a ride down wash. today and saw more than the usual amount of construction taking place on Azuma!!! Also it looks likes the apartments at washington/yale are coming along as is the the development that will house the blue label. Any renderings or possible tenants?? Another wine bar would be great since Max's is always crowded.

Please post info.

Edited July 30, 2007 by sowanome

[Porchman 122]

Another wine bar would be great since Max's is always crowded.

Please post info.

Max's is, indeed, a cattle call. Good food, though. Have you tried the Corkscrew (east of Sawyer)? http://www.houstoncorkscrew.com/ . It's a comfortable, laid back joint.

[musicman 193]

Have you tried the Corkscrew (east of Sawyer)? http://www.houstoncorkscrew.com/ . It's a comfortable, laid back joint.

i thought that was already out.

[Porchman 122]

i thought that was already out.

Opened, you mean? Yes. I was just responding to sowanome's search for alternatives to Max's. There's also Cova, but they get packed, too.

[musicman 193]

Opened, you mean? Yes. I was just responding to sowanome's search for alternatives to Max's. There's also Cova, but they get packed, too.

i meant the crowd moved elsewhere. didn't want to be too sarcastic.

Edited July 31, 2007 by musicman

[Vertigo58 28]

Just a silly question. Washington Ave is considered The Heights?

Doesn't sound right. Not if Washington starts near downtown. How can that be?

[sowanome 12]

Max's is, indeed, a cattle call. Good food, though. Have you tried the Corkscrew (east of Sawyer)? http://www.houstoncorkscrew.com/ . It's a comfortable, laid back joint.

Corkscrew is great and there is no other place in town like it, I hope the new stuff that's being built around washington this has the same feeling. It looks like "the social" is going after a similar crowd with wifi, burgers and the laid back atmosphere.

[musicman 193]

Just a silly question. Washington Ave is considered The Heights?

Doesn't sound right. Not if Washington starts near downtown. How can that be?

i think people confuse heights proper vs a wider area known as the heights. heights goes down to washington remember.

[sowanome 12]

Just a silly question. Washington Ave is considered The Heights?

Doesn't sound right. Not if Washington starts near downtown. How can that be?

Technically, " A Portion" of washington avenue is considered the southern boundary of "The Heights" or Houston Heights for historic reasons. I think this boundary is at Washington and Heights Intersection, which is evident by the street " Heights BLVD. or Heights N." and if you travel up this north on this street you can tell by the Light Fixtures along the white bridge and the numbered street signs prior to going under I-10. Yes, I know there is the sign and all that indicates and welcomes you into the heights but THIS IS HISTORY? or I guess BUt washington ave is still washington ave

[cwrm4 4]

That's like way, way back when I was new to Houston and looked at an apt at Bayou Park (Memorial @ Shepherd)...the ditzy apt girl was walking me down a hall, and we got to 3 steps up in the hallway. She stopped, pointed at the steps, and said "See that? They call this area the Heights because the ground is like that"

Back on topic...down Washington towards Houston Ave, and past the Corkscrew, on the north side of the street there is a cool old brick building. It has been completely gutted, including the roof, and the walls are being held up with wood supports. Anyone know what is planned for this building?

Edited July 31, 2007 by cwrm4

[tanith27 308]

Heard the Red Door group are opening a place called Blue Door somewhere down there. Wonder if thats it...

[musicman 193]

Heard the Red Door group are opening a place called Blue Door somewhere down there.

i still hear quite a few people call Marfraless, the blue door. that could be confusing.

[Porchman 122]

i meant the crowd moved elsewhere. didn't want to be too sarcastic.

From what I gleaned, they had a fall-off after their initial surge, but it seems they have really attracted a good, constant following. They had a pretty full house this past Friday night...just enough table rotation to have seating available. Between their initiatives like steak night and the synergy provided by other similar joints in that area like the Dark Horse and Beavers, I think they have good staying power.

[Vertigo58 28]

Heard the Red Door group are opening a place called Blue Door somewhere down there. Wonder if thats it...

Now! This is real weird! (besides me)

but I just came back from lunch and noticed a big banner reading grand opening "Blue Door Club" but way over here on Wilcrest/Westheimer. Haif's getting scarier

[sunsets 24]

Just a silly question. Washington Ave is considered The Heights?

Doesn't sound right. Not if Washington starts near downtown. How can that be?

Back in the days before I-10, I think everything up to and including Washington was indeed "The Heights". I could be wrong about that. But there is a "heights bank" building at the corner of Heights Blvd and Washington. And check out this cool old map from 1913. Seems that the section down Heights Blvd did meet up with Washington.

To the east, the Woodland Heights neighborhood runs all the way to I-45. There was a larger park to the south along the bayou that would have kept that more separated from the Washington Ave corridor. Today, it's an easy hop over the Watson/Taylor/Sawyer St bridge to get to the Darkhorse and Corkscrew. Closer to downtown, Washington Ave was/is considered 6th Ward.

[sowanome 12]

UPDATES:

1. "The Social" Is open or at least that's what the sign indicates? I will go try it sometime this week.

2. Here is the website to the development on Feagan between Detering and Sheperd http://www.cacereshomes.com/

3. Azuma has windows and it looks as if they are actually trying to finish the building, FINALLY.

What do you think

[cwrm4 4]

2. Here is the website to the development on Feagan between Detering and Sheperd http://www.cacereshomes.com/

From the "Fit" part of their webiste: "Bike up heart-attack hill along Allen Parkway".

Good grief. Houston really must be America's fattest city.

[tanith27 308]

There's a hill in Houston? Where?

[Htowngirl 5]

From what I gleaned, they had a fall-off after their initial surge, but it seems they have really attracted a good, constant following. They had a pretty full house this past Friday night...just enough table rotation to have seating available. Between their initiatives like steak night and the synergy provided by other similar joints in that area like the Dark Horse and Beavers, I think they have good staying power.

They also just added a kitchen that serves up gourmet pizzas and cheese plates (in addition to their delicious chocolate truffles!). They also started staying open on Sundays. Theyir wine nights and "singles" things are always sold out. I think they are probably doing pretty well. Plus, great service, great atmosphere, great remodel of a historic building - I love it!

But, the food at Max's IS worth dealing with the crowds. Their bread pudding? Yum.

[musicman 193]

But, the food at Max's IS worth dealing with the crowds. Their bread pudding? Yum.

those $18 burgers keep out the riffraff

[sowanome 12]

those $18 burgers keep out the riffraff

I agree about the bread pudding!

[Boognish 0]

Another wine bar would be great since Max's is always crowded.

Please post info.

YES!!! More wine bars, that is exactly what Washington Avenue needs, along with a few more mexican restaurants, there simply aren't enough choices.

[sowanome 12]

YES!!! More wine bars, that is exactly what Washington Avenue needs, along with a few more mexican restaurants, there simply aren't enough choices.

Wow! someone isn't a fan, what would you suggest? I guess another wine bar would make the street the wine corridor or something...

[musicman 193]

Wow! someone isn't a fan, what would you suggest? I guess another wine bar would make the street the wine corridor or something...

i think they are just pointing out that originality is lost.

[Guest danax]

those $18 burgers keep out the riffraff

In the near future, the riffraff can go to Prince's Hamburgers, which will soon start construction on Shepherd, a couple of blocks south of Cadillac Bar.

[musicman 193]

In the near future, the riffraff can go to Prince's Hamburgers, which will soon start construction on Shepherd, a couple of blocks south of Cadillac Bar.

meet you there danax

[Guest danax]

meet you there danax

Right....I'll go over to Mak Chin's and get it to go....and then meet you there.

[Boognish 0]

i think they are just pointing out that originality is lost.

That would be correct. Not a whole lot of originality along Washington Avenue when it comes to new construction.

When I moved to the area, there was Cadillac Bar, Mission Burrito, El Rey, Los Dos Amigos, Terlingua, and probably four or five other little taquerias. Then they started construction on El Tiempo. "Great!" I thought, "I like El Tiempo, the margaritas knock me on my ars and the food is delicious. I hate going into the crowded Richmond location, soon I won't have to go."

Several months after that, I noticed some construction on Durham, then a sign, "Cyclone Anaya's". I did not know what that was, then my friend told me in was a mexican restaurant. "Huh, okay, well I guess it could be an alternative if El Tiempo is too crowded."

Then shortly after that, more construction. "What could it be?" I wondered. "Oh, Molina's, more mexican food." I now have ten or more mexican restaurants within a one-two mile radius of my house.

I am just feeling the same way about the wine bars. First Cova, then I saw the Corkscrew down the street, then Max's. Every time they start moving dirt around I get excited, then, it is usually a let down once they put up the sign and I realize "Oh, it's another this or that." I mean, there are two different "sell your stuff on ebay" stores in the Max's parking lot.

There are finally some new things popping up. Mak Chin's [or whatever it is] is a nice addition. Not spectacular, but at least some variety. I am excited about Azuma, but by the looks of it, by the time they get around to finishing it, there will be two, maybe three other Japanese restaurants in the area.

Oh well, I'm going on and on, not really sure if I am making a point. There is a lack of originality. Do I have a better suggestion? Eh, not really. I'd like to see more variety, but whatever, I'll probably just keep going to Cahill's.

[musicman 193]

Oh well, I'm going on and on, not really sure if I am making a point. There is a lack of originality. Do I have a better suggestion? Eh, not really. I'd like to see more variety,...

concur i liked washington because it had some originality. now it is less eclectic.

[Guest danax]

^

I don't think the restaurant/bar business allows for much risk taking, so the copycats aren't surprising. There are only a handful of popular cuisines anyway. I'd say Indian might be a good one at some point.I'm excited by how that area has become the semi-casual wine and dine zone in town.

Being so close to so many new townhomes, it would seem to have good potential to stay that way for a long time, and that's probably why restauranteurs are flocking there. More important to me than variety of cuisine is how the new architecture looks and interacts with the overall scene there. It's well known that people will flock to a restaurant that has "atmosphere". I would say the same holds true for a district.

[musicman 193]

^

I don't think the restaurant/bar business allows for much risk taking, so the copycats aren't surprising. There are only a handful of popular cuisines anyway. I'd say Indian might be a good one at some point.I'm excited by how that area has become the semi-casual wine and dine zone in town.

Being so close to so many new townhomes, it would seem to have good potential to stay that way for a long time, and that's probably why restauranteurs are flocking there. More important to me than variety of cuisine is how the new architecture looks and interacts with the overall scene there. It's well known that people will flock to a restaurant that has "atmosphere". I would say the same holds true for a district.

the area is becoming more "traditional" population-wise and so are the retail offerings.

[sowanome 12]

That would be correct. Not a whole lot of originality along Washington Avenue when it comes to new construction.

When I moved to the area, there was Cadillac Bar, Mission Burrito, El Rey, Los Dos Amigos, Terlingua, and probably four or five other little taquerias. Then they started construction on El Tiempo. "Great!" I thought, "I like El Tiempo, the margaritas knock me on my ars and the food is delicious. I hate going into the crowded Richmond location, soon I won't have to go."

Several months after that, I noticed some construction on Durham, then a sign, "Cyclone Anaya's". I did not know what that was, then my friend told me in was a mexican restaurant. "Huh, okay, well I guess it could be an alternative if El Tiempo is too crowded."

Then shortly after that, more construction. "What could it be?" I wondered. "Oh, Molina's, more mexican food." I now have ten or more mexican restaurants within a one-two mile radius of my house.

I am just feeling the same way about the wine bars. First Cova, then I saw the Corkscrew down the street, then Max's. Every time they start moving dirt around I get excited, then, it is usually a let down once they put up the sign and I realize "Oh, it's another this or that." I mean, there are two different "sell your stuff on ebay" stores in the Max's parking lot.

There are finally some new things popping up. Mak Chin's [or whatever it is] is a nice addition. Not spectacular, but at least some variety. I am excited about Azuma, but by the looks of it, by the time they get around to finishing it, there will be two, maybe three other Japanese restaurants in the area.

Oh well, I'm going on and on, not really sure if I am making a point. There is a lack of originality. Do I have a better suggestion? Eh, not really. I'd like to see more variety, but whatever, I'll probably just keep going to Cahill's.

True and I agree with you about the lack of originality around this area, but I will say the Cova, Max's, Azuma, etc are the type of places that will keep this area thriving. I wish there were more places like those in the white oak/heights area, but I'm afraid they will get priced out if they don't come sooner than later. Yes, It has taken some time, but at least Azuma is keeping the building. With that being sad I would rather see Benjys, Corkscrew, Cova rather than a check cashing place, criket store or another e-bay store.

Edited August 7, 2007 by sowanome

[Guest danax]

With that being sad I would rather see Benjys, Corkscrew, Cova rather than a check cashing place, criket store or another e-bay store.

or thrift stores, or garage sales.......which the e-bay stores are the 21st century/yuppie version of both.

[n632cm 0]

Any renderings or possible tenants??

It appears that Lovett Commerical has several projects in the works for the East side of Washington (i.e. by Corkscrew etc...). Here is their info...

1902 Washington Blvd - Mixed Use Development

1814 Washington Blvd - Resurrecting the Dittman Building into a possible restaurant. No renderings, but the link has some good photos inside and out of the building. At least they are trying to save this buidling.

[musicman 193]

It appears that Lovett Commerical has several projects in the works for the East side of Washington (i.e. by Corkscrew etc...). Here is their info...

1902 Washington Blvd - Mixed Use Development

1814 Washington Blvd - Resurrecting the Dittman Building into a possible restaurant. No renderings, but the link has some good photos inside and out of the building. At least they are trying to save this buidling.

i like how there's no train in the drawing AND how it says "abundant street parking." 150 homes to be built in 6 months.

should be interesting.

[lockmat 2292]

How did this one slip through the cracks? It looks pretty good. I wonder how sure this one is?

[sowanome 12]

It appears that Lovett Commerical has several projects in the works for the East side of Washington (i.e. by Corkscrew etc...). Here is their info...

1902 Washington Blvd - Mixed Use Development

1814 Washington Blvd - Resurrecting the Dittman Building into a possible restaurant. No renderings, but the link has some good photos inside and out of the building. At least they are trying to save this buidling.

Thanks for the info!

[sowanome 12]

Took a ride down wash. today and saw more than the usual amount of construction taking place on Azuma!!! Also it looks likes the apartments at washington/yale are coming along as is the the development that will house the blue label. Any renderings or possible tenants?? Another wine bar would be great since Max's is always crowded.

Please post info.

4500 & 4600 Washington avenue info:( this is where the blue label is and the three story building (4600) is one block west. Let's not forget about the retail scheduled to be across from the apartments. "Urban?"

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...ff/4895295.html

4500 washington (Majority of the parking is behind the building)

James Craig furnishings

Joy Yoga

??Sushi??

Blue Label Lounge

Fitness Exchange

Edited August 10, 2007 by sowanome

[n632cm 0]

4500 & 4600 Washington avenue info:( this is where the blue label is and the three story building (4600) is one block west. Let's not forget about the retail scheduled to be across from the apartments. "Urban?"

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...ff/4895295.html

4500 washington (Majority of the parking is behind the building)

James Craig furnishings

Bikrams Yoga

??Sushi??

Blue Label Lounge

Here is the Flyer (with limted info) from ORRs website.

I wonder what they (Houston) will do with the old Fire Station, with this new development?

[sowanome 12]

Here is the Flyer (with limted info) from ORRs website.

I wonder what they (Houston) will do with the old Fire Station, with this new development?

I hope they keep it and based on tax credit incentives it'd be a nice museum, eatery or office building. I mean it's nearly 80 years old, still standing, a few blocks from sixth ward and the heights, THEY (city of houston/historic society) must have something figured out for it?? The way they care for allen house, etc.(eventhough I'm a huge fan of regent square) It's a surprise the fire station hasn't been knocked down!

[musicman 193]

I hope they keep it and based on tax credit incentives it'd be a nice museum, eatery or office building.

sounds like the tax credit isn't an incentive as we are seeing with the river oaks center.

[Boognish 0]

I wonder what they (Houston) will do with the old Fire Station, with this new development?

I have always thought that it would make a cool icehouse.

[Htowngirl 5]

I have always thought that it would make a cool icehouse.

I think there was something on HAIF at one time about a known restauranteer (for lack of a better word) owning this and planning to open a restaurant here... but I can't find it (and HCAD says the station is owned by the City of Houston). Did I imagine this?

[ArchitecturalPRGirl 5]

Heard the Red Door group are opening a place called Blue Door somewhere down there. Wonder if thats it...

It's the building across the street from the Corkscrew. They have begun gutting it but keep having road blocks. First it was parking now it's some kind of permit issue I think. There's some official permitting sign that gets put up on building when they have been "approved" for whatever reason. Well that sign keeps going up and then coming down on that building.

[Boognish 0]

I think there was something on HAIF at one time about a known restauranteer (for lack of a better word) owning this and planning to open a restaurant here... but I can't find it (and HCAD says the station is owned by the City of Houston). Did I imagine this?

Hmmm....guess you'd have to get it away from the City of Houston to do anything with it. That could be tough. They already have to HFD Museum in Midtown, so I doubt they would make another fire museum.

[Htowngirl 5]

I mean, there are two different "sell your stuff on ebay" stores in the Max's parking lot.

I thought that at first, too, but actually one is Help U Sell, a realty company, and the other is "I Sold It on ebay".

I agree about the multitude of mexican restaurants... but they ARE always packed!

[sowanome 12]

Historic Fire Station No. 11 is Saved! On June 13, 2007, the city council voted to sell Fire Station No. 11 to Mr. Matt Tabrizi for $350,000. According to the plan approved by the HAHC (HoustonArchaeological and Historical Commission) also on June 13, Mr. Tabrizi plans to convert the first floor into retail/restaurant space, and the second floor into livingspace. The exterior facing Washington will be restored as original. Because of the hard work of Barry Whitehead (Architect and Project Manager for the Houston Fire Department) and Randy Pace (Houston's Historic Preservation Officer), Fire Station No. 11 was designated a protected landmark in May, 2006. A protected landmark is a new designation which requires mandatory compliance after due process

Edited August 27, 2007 by sowanome

[musicman 193]

that's good news about the fire station. hopefully someone can save the one in 6th ward too.

[Porchman 122]

HBJ article regarding the restaurantage on Washington:

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories.../27/story5.html

As pictured, Benjy's is underway. Well, the lot's cleared and batter boards are in place, at least.

[sowanome 12]

HBJ article regarding the restaurantage on Washington:

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories.../27/story5.html

As pictured, Benjy's is underway. Well, the lot's cleared and batter boards are in place, at least.

Can you paste the article on here? I have a bizjournal account (online) and I can't access the print section, like this article.