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I had my differences with several of the moderators before in the past but I got over it and put it behind me, there is only 5 Moderators in this forum they cant keep up with every post that's posted on here.

Maybe new moderators need to be appointed? HAIF is growing, and for a site with over 3740 members and over 180,270 posts, maybe more than five moderators are needed.

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Maybe new moderators need to be appointed? HAIF is growing, and for a site with over 3740 members and over 180,270 posts, maybe more than five moderators are needed.

Lobbying for the job? :rolleyes: j/k. I would think being a moderator is somewhat a labor of love. Seems to be a pretty thankless job at times.

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Maybe new moderators need to be appointed? HAIF is growing, and for a site with over 3740 members and over 180,270 posts, maybe more than five moderators are needed.

Didn't I see a post seeking additional moderators just the other day?

(oops, my bad ... this IS that post)

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Maybe new moderators need to be appointed? HAIF is growing, and for a site with over 3740 members and over 180,270 posts, maybe more than five moderators are needed.

I agree. Maybe start assigning sub-moderators to the busier specific sub-forums, and leave the super-moderators in place to roam over the entire board.

Let's have a thread to nominate additional moderators, and then have a poll to vote. The first ever HAIF primaries & Moderator election is upon us!

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I agree. Maybe start assigning sub-moderators to the busier specific sub-forums, and leave the super-moderators in place to roam over the entire board.

Let's have a thread to nominate additional moderators, and then have a poll to vote. The first ever HAIF primaries & Moderator election is upon us!

The only problem with that is then it would turn into a popularity contest, and then the most popular would be elected and not necessarily the best person for the job. Besides you need to remember, this is not a democracy it's a dictatorship. Wayne will be the last word on everything, and he can consult amongst his current moderators, for their input, since they will all have to be working together. If a person really wants to be a moderator, shoot Wayne a line and he can consider it. I am sure he has a short list already in mind if it comes to the point he thinks he needs to ad moderators. I really don't see the need right now myself. Wayne has always tried to have himself and his moderators to take a hands-off approach, until it gets out of hand and then they step in. It's not like a lot can go on without them knowing about it as many whiners as they have in here that run and cry to them every time their feelings get hurt. I'd love to see an "IM count" on their mail boxes. It takes a really thick skinned person, that can lay in the shadows and let the forum evolve on it's own, without being a constant disruption, by over moderating. It's part of the flavor of this place, is all the different personalities within, and the chemistry as a result of it, whether it be good or bad. The best moderator is the one you hardly notice. It's kind of like a referee in a boxing match, or a soccer game, or football what have you, if the referee is so much a part of the game or match, it becomes a disruption and the focus goes from the game at hand to the referee, then the game or match is no longer as interesting.

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Before the crash this was a great place for smart discussions about urban issues and architecture. The conversation now has degenerated into pseudo-intellectual babbling and silly one-upsmanship. I think some of the bad vibes blasted around here are completely earned.

Furthermore, I hate all the "great post!" and " :lol: " comments made by people who lack either the conviction or intelligence to express their own opinions. There are "valued" members on this site who believe that dissenting opinions are "trolling," whatever that means, and who will go on for 5-10 posts to rally the rest of their clan against the person, not the opinion. I don't think they do it out of a mean spirit. I think it's actually poor communication and reasoning skills.

Yeah, I act childish on here a lot. I'm a product of the new HAIF. I remember what it was before this. Now, it's more of an entertainment outlet. Some of that entertainment for me, I confess, comes in sarcasm and stirring the pot once in awhile.

The old forum was better, but not that much better. In fact, I seem to remember you making a valiant effort to try to quell some of the crud that you identify with the new forum, and then becoming frustrated.

When this place had 30 members it was basically a collegial discussion of serious architecture issues, and usually lamentation that Houston is not more urban. Then it became bigger and less civil. Then it crashed, was reborn, and became even bigger and less civil. But there are many valuable conversations on here now (especially on history and neighborhood issues) that were not around when it was just a meeting ground of architecture buffs.

I think that most of the ugliness on this forum comes from about 5 or 6 members. They make rude, unprovoked comments, and most people just leave the discussion rather than getting into a long, messy battle with them. The problem is that they post so often that it is hard to find a conversation where they do not make their appearance. Newer posters have followed their example, and the character of this place has slowly changed.

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The old forum was better, but not that much better. In fact, I seem to remember you making a valiant effort to try to quell some of the crud that you identify with the new forum, and then becoming frustrated.

It was a lot better. I remember, as the place was spiralling downward, taking a long break and leaving for about a month. Then, I missed it and came back, only to find it had been hacked and was offline.

Since the new site became active, my posts are 1/3 what they used to be and of those, 1/3 are probably worth reading. It's just a silly diversion now.

The difference is, if this site were hacked, I wouldn't miss it a bit.

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The old forum was better, but not that much better. In fact, I seem to remember you making a valiant effort to try to quell some of the crud that you identify with the new forum, and then becoming frustrated.

When this place had 30 members it was basically a collegial discussion of serious architecture issues, and usually lamentation that Houston is not more urban. Then it became bigger and less civil. Then it crashed, was reborn, and became even bigger and less civil. But there are many valuable conversations on here now (especially on history and neighborhood issues) that were not around when it was just a meeting ground of architecture buffs.

I think that most of the ugliness on this forum comes from about 5 or 6 members. They make rude, unprovoked comments, and most people just leave the discussion rather than getting into a long, messy battle with them. The problem is that they post so often that it is hard to find a conversation where they do not make their appearance. Newer posters have followed their example, and the character of this place has slowly changed.

I hope I am not one of those members, but it sounded so much better back then. I seriously think a word limit and a member requirement of 15 or 16 should be in place.

I would miss HAIF if it were hacked again. I hope it isn't hacked. Many good discussions going on here. My only complaint on HAIF (besides some rude members) is the layout can get a bit confusing. Sometimes suburban developments are in two places, Going Up and one of the suburban forums. I think it would be easier if HAIF had a suburban development subforum within Going Up. That is just one example.

My fantasy HAIF layout:

General Houston:

-Going Up!

--Going Up: Suburbs!

-Houston Photos

-Skyscrapers

--Architects + Designs

--Crater Houston Alliance

-Houston Sports

-Holy Places

-A History: Houston

-Houston Mod

-Community Announcements

Houston Issues:

-Traffic and Transportation

--Guided Transit

-Houston Real Estate + Home Building and Repair

--Home Building and Repair

-City Hall

-Houston and the Environment

-Houston and the Media

-International Houston

Houston Neighborhoods:

Stays the same...

Houston Metro:

Stays the same...

Outside Houston:

Stays the same, but get rid of New Orleans

Other Discussions:

-Other Houston

--Houston Area Help Wanted/Job Wanted

--Houston Dining, Entertainment, and Shopping

--Classified Ads

-The Weather

-Off Topic

--Sports

--Computers, Technology, and the Internet

-Way Off Topic

-Houston Architecture.Info

Two dashes means a subforum goes in place.

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I'm not hatin...just not a lot of activity in that section.

By the time I'm 21, NO will be full of corporate people so I doubt it'll be the same.

Nah, The Quarter is still The Quarter. Don't worry about any "suits" being down there. You need to experience the REAL Mardi Gras, when you get legal.

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