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18 minutes ago, Luminare said:

Don't you think that if the original interiors weren't so blahhh that the new wouldn't be so dramatic as it is. Maybe dingy is overkill, but it could still be applied. Don't you think? I was only inside GRB once and wasn't that impressed with the interiors, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure you have more knowledge on this then I do. Please do tell.

 

Exhibit halls are generally pretty blahhh.  They are just large open spaces. This space used to be part of the exhibit halls.  Convention center lobbies, on the other hand tend to be more exciting, dramatic, impressive (choose your own adjective).  The GRB never had an entrance lobby, per se.  That's the issue they were addressing with this remodel.

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1 minute ago, bobruss said:

I think this is going in as a popup venue for the run of the Super Bowl. This is sited on the block between Market Square and the old Chronicle 

building site of a future high rise.

 

No.  It's on the Polk/Hamilton/Chenevert/Clay bloc, and looks to be far more extensive than just Super Bowl popup.

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I agree.  I thing that this is a permenant feature to support the convention business,. Likely some kind of "Texas Themed barn-like thing" for small concerts, award ceremonies, etc.. I wonder if the cladding in the drawing is the expected final cladding?  Color?  This thing could be a real eyesore.

 

 

 

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If it is gong to be done for the Super Bowl, I can't imagine that it will be permanent.  While proper motivation does have away of changing schedules, it seems like it takes six months just to scrape off an old surface lot.

 

This block feels like it is off in a corner behind the barn, as it were.

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I obviously need new glasses or I should have realized that I could enlarge the drawing. Your right it is on Hamilton and Polk.

So is this going to be an events venue for parties and the like for off site convention business?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, bobruss said:

I obviously need new glasses or I should have realized that I could enlarge the drawing. Your right it is on Hamilton and Polk.

So is this going to be an events venue for parties and the like for off site convention business?

 

 

 It's a restaurant and live music venue.  It's being done by Free Range Concepts.  You can get an idea of the types of places they do here.

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2 hours ago, PD_1 said:

On page 7 of the proposal form it shows "Owner's Expected Substantial Completion Date". The date listed is 05.15.17. It doesn't appear to be for the "Big Game".

 

can you provide a link to the particular form you are speaking of, or give us the exact name of the form?  Found it.   Interesting and a little surprising.  Elsewhere in the documents it says construction must be completed in 150 or 180 days.

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6 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

 

 It's a restaurant and live music venue.  It's being done by Free Range Concepts.  You can get an idea of the types of places they do here.

Interesting...I went to college with one of the founder's wives.  She is always advertising their places on Facebook.  

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2 hours ago, Luminare said:

From looking at those drawings....yeah thats a temp structure.

You may well be correct but the plans in Dropbox include a fairly comprehensive landscaping plan.  Seems to me like a frivolous expense for a building that will be used for a week.

 

and PD_1 above suggests a 5-17-17 completion date is listed somewhere in the docs.  

 

I guess we we will know for sure in May.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, UtterlyUrban said:

You may well be correct but the plans in Dropbox include a fairly comprehensive landscaping plan.  Seems to me like a frivolous expense for a building that will be used for a week.

 

and PD_1 above suggests a 5-17-17 completion date is listed somewhere in the docs.  

 

I guess we we will know for sure in May.

 

 

Most projects you will have a landscaping budget big or small. I haven't seen these docs though so you would know more than me. What makes it "comprehensive" in your opinion?

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8 hours ago, Luminare said:

Most projects you will have a landscaping budget big or small. I haven't seen these docs though so you would know more than me. What makes it "comprehensive" in your opinion?

It seems that they are removing some existing trees and planting, in ground, a list of plants including  (9) 12'-15' trees.  They are also adding an irrigation system it seems.

 

Would that expense be undertaken for a building that will be used for a week?  If so, I am going to raise cane at the frivolity of the expense.  If the building is permenant, then, it makes sense to me.

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project is NOT temporary. I work for a general contractor that thought about bidding on the thing, we had people at the prebid.  This is designed to be a permanent structure.  With that being said, there is a good chance this thing doesnt get built.  Their schedule is too tight and their budget is too small.  It has already been put on the market once and NO ONE bid the stupid thing.

 

My guess is that they take bids, its over budget and then it goes away for another 6-12 months.

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The driveway is finished but will be deadly to bicycle riders, ankles and people who wear high heels. Why would they make these gutter covers that have such wide openings to them? It's a pet peeve of mine being a bike rider, so many places have have the wheel eating covers installed in their driveways that is just asking for someone to get seriously hurt.

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3 hours ago, hindesky said:

The driveway is finished but will be deadly to bicycle riders, ankles and people who wear high heels. Why would they make these gutter covers that have such wide openings to them? It's a pet peeve of mine being a bike rider, so many places have have the wheel eating covers installed in their driveways that is just asking for someone to get seriously hurt.

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Yup! Samething almost happened to me biking around that area this week trying to catch Pokemon. 

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I have so many questions from this rendering

It looks like another event designed to kill the grass of that main lawn.  I like how CNN is banished to a corner, with Fox (who has the rights to broadcast the game) front and center.

Will that field have people doing each play live with the game?

What is up with the screens - what will they be showing, and is "HTX" on 3 big screens or just 3 big banners?

What is the strange blue square up in the left hand corner?

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21 hours ago, cspwal said:

I have so many questions from this rendering

It looks like another event designed to kill the grass of that main lawn.  I like how CNN is banished to a corner, with Fox (who has the rights to broadcast the game) front and center.

Will that field have people doing each play live with the game?

What is up with the screens - what will they be showing, and is "HTX" on 3 big screens or just 3 big banners?

What is the strange blue square up in the left hand corner?

 

Sometimes the old-ass commentators do try and imitate some of the plays, yes. It's quite sad.

I'd imagine the screens will show the game to an exclusive pass crowd, and imagine those are just banners for the TV background.

The blue square is the glass of the walkway from the conference hall to the Hilton.

 

EDIT: hahaha, confused right and left

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If you cut that lawn in half, the crowd in front of the stage won't be very big. I'm guessing this will be fairly limited access.

 

The blue square in the top left behind the pond over by the Marriott is placed where a rather steep but short grass covered hill is located.  I'm not sure if there is anything permanent (other than dirt) under it or not, but they would have to take it out to put whatever that is up in its place.  Bouncy castles are always a crowd pleaser.

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