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Blu Ray vs. HD DVD battle coming to an end?

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Blu Ray vs. HD DVD  

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  1. 1. Which techonology do you/will you support?

    • Blu Ray
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    • HD DVD
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travelguy_73

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Don't be surprised when everything including video will involve a download in the "relatively" near future.

Word to that. I just want to download an HD copy of 300 and stream it to one of my TVs. Technology-wise, it is simple. Of course, the only way to do it now is to download it illegally, or watch in some tiny box on my computer monitor (a la Netflix 'watch now'). But I actually want to pay for it, so why can't it?

When the studios decide that it is financially smarter for them to actually allow consumers to have a choice rather than keeping to an outmoded business model where they maintain strict control over every aspect of production, delivery, viewing, etc., then DVD's days are numbered.

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Pumapayam

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I still stand by my statement that HD DVD will win because the porn industry has picked that format, just like they picked VHS during the great tape wars.

A good indicator is to see blu v HD porn being sold.

I thought porn was finally showing up on Blu-ray?

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travelguy_73

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I still stand by my statement that HD DVD will win because the porn industry has picked that format, just like they picked VHS during the great tape wars.

A good indicator is to see blu v HD porn being sold.

When I first heard about the adult entertainment industry backing HD DVD, I thought the same thing. However, unlike the Beta/VHS war, people no longer have to buy a physical medium like a disc or tape to get their kicks. So if the industry thought that by choosing a standard they were somehow ending the debate, I beleve they were mistaken.

Now, if the adult entertainment industry really wanted to be on the forefront, they would take on DRM.

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Pumapayam

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Two studios drop support of Blu-ray DVDs

The exclusivity is only through 2008, they just did not reveal that in the press release.

Also no Steven Speilberg directed movies are included, so Indiana Jones is still coming out on Blu-ray.

Also, Paramount itself released 50+ movies on Blu-ray this past year already. Which is more than Fox, which stopped making Blu-ray releases until the DRM is finalized.

Also, it will be interesting to see what happens to all those Blu-ray versions of "Blades of Glory". They said the exclusivity starts with that movie.

Even still, all those PS3's with Blu-rays built in still give the possible customer based a huge advantage for HD DVD.

The $150 million dollar exclusivity deal the "HD DVD" camp paid Paramount/Dreamworks was pretty shadey, but only temporary.

2009 is a new start.

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Guest Marty

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Paramount produce the new Transformer movie that I still have not seen. I am not buying anything that will not play The Transformers!

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Pumapayam

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As far as I know, the industry as a whole had decided to publish in one format: HD DVD.
I found out that VIVID is releasing their porn on Blu-ray, but they are the only ones.
Paramount produce the new Transformer movie that I still have not seen. I am not buying anything that will not play The Transformers!
Unless you own an HDTV, you can still get a DVD and play it on your DVD, Blu-ray, or HD DVD player.If you have an HDTV, then yes, you have to get it on HD DVD to fully appreciate it.
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Guest Marty

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Unless you own an HDTV, you can still get a DVD and play it on your DVD, Blu-ray, or HD DVD player.If you have an HDTV, then yes, you have to get it on HD DVD to fully appreciate it.

I got a Toshiba REGZA 42" LCD HDTV It cost about $1300. I love lay away . I think I will still wait and see.

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Guest Marty

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HD-DVD will win. The PS3 will not do what the PS2 did with DVD. It is a different market now.

That surprised me also, look's like I am going to put a HD-DVD player on lay away, but I think puma already made up his mind. :lol::P

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Pumapayam

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That surprised me also, look's like I am going to put a HD-DVD player on lay away, but I think puma already made up his mind. :lol::P4qn5739.jpg
For $300, why do you need lay away, this is not some $1000 device?And Marty, after 18 months, or Post Christmas 2008, Paramount and Dreamworks will be able to release Blu-ray movies again, unless they get bought again by Toshiba.
HD-DVD will win. The PS3 will not do what the PS2 did with DVD. It is a different market now.
I dunno, seems unlikely, but go ahead and waste you money on a short term techonology.At least HD DVD is cheaper, but marginally.I bet a $399 Blu-ray release is coming up this holiday.
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Pumapayam

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and yet somehow qualified to tell us what to buy.

you remind me of those people on IMDB.com that review movies before they come out.

puzzling ;)

LOL, I am just waiting for the "rumble" feature to show up on the Playstation 3.

I am a Blu-ray lover.

Nothing less.

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ricco67

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I am a Blu-ray lover.

Nothing less.

That sounds so wrong if taken out of context.

BOT: The only reason why I haven't comitted myself (although, I hear there is a warrant out), is the prices of the players. They're getting more reasonable, but I figure I'll probably get one after xmas. :)

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Pumapayam

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I have 41,000 points on my Sony Card, which is basically $411.

By the holidays I should be able to redeem it for a free Sony Blu-ray player.

You never know what you have until you check.

I was pretty excited to see I had accumulated all those points.

Also, vote in the above poll people. The numbers still favor HD DVD.

Lets get some more votes in here and see what HAIF-ers prefer.

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Jeebus

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Can someone explain picture quality? I was under the assumption that HD and BR were about the same in picture quality, but somewhere I read that BR was better picture quality...?

That I know of, and have read & seen, they are equal. If your HD DVD player is playing an HD DVD in 1080p, then it's not going to look any better as a 1080p BluRay disc in a BR player.

The only difference that I know of are layer size (HD DVD is about 30% smaller per layer) and laser read speeds (HD DVD is about 20% slower than BR, but still double the HDTV ATSC standard for broadcast transmissions).

I personally don't care for the name "Blu-Ray". It sounds gimmicky. I'm going to wait and see who wins before I choose. At this rate, something better (don't ask me what or how) will probably come out before these two are settled.

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houstonmacbro

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I think this whole 'war' (between the formats) is gimmicky. I mean, most of us don't really know a 720p from a dental drill, but we associate things with names.

I really was hoping the two formats would co-exist, but that doesn't appear likely as most major manufacturers are choosing sides.

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Mark F. Barnes

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Pretty much just like Jeeb said 1080p is 1080p. Blu-ray utilizes a lens with a greater numerical aperture than HD-DVD, the laser spot can be focused with greater precision to fit more data on the same size disc. This allows Blu-ray to hold 25GB per layer (50GB on a dual-layer disc), whereas HD-DVD can only hold 15GB per layer (30GB on a dual-layer disc). Blu-ray has also adopted a higher data transfer rate for video and audio (54Mbps vs 36.55Mbps).

Remember, though, that according to the technical specs, Beta was a better video format than VHS too... More importantly, the 15GB of HD DVD is claimed to be "just enough to fit a high-def movie", except if you're a movie fan or cinemaphile, you already know that movies can vary in length from 80 minutes to over three hours. Having a movie split onto two disks is a terrible solution, and this is one of the reasons I prefer Blu-ray, personally.

Price-wise, however, there's also a big difference. HD DVD players are in the $400-500 range, while Blu-ray pictures are $800 or more coming out of the gate. Both Samsung and LG have combo players (play both HD DVD and Blu-ray) for $799. The disks themselves should be a roughly similar price but, needless to say, if you buy a movie in one format and put it into a player for the other it's not going to work (however regular DVD movies will play fine in either high-def player).

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Jeebus

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I think this whole 'war' (between the formats) is gimmicky. I mean, most of us don't really know a 720p from a dental drill, but we associate things with names.
It's funny you say that. I bought a 42 inch EDTV back in 2005. It is ATSC/HDTV compatible, has all the same DVI/HDMI inputs, but is only 480p. I hosted a BSC championship game party last week and for giggles quizzed a few of my videophile friends on what my resolution was. Most said 720p, a few 1080i - but none 480p.

I saved 800 dollars by going with a 480p EDTV over the next up 720p HDTV. Of course today, you can get a 720p for the same price as my 480p was in 2005.

I really was hoping the two formats would co-exist, but that doesn't appear likely as most major manufacturers are choosing sides.
Well, there are some combo HD/BR players out there - if one must start their HD and/or BR collection now.
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