ChannelTwoNews Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 This is a $1.5B 2,000 acre mixed use development at the intersection of GP & FM 1464: http://www.globest.com/news/908_908/houston/160716-1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 OK folks...time for another bond election for more new schools and more taxes...thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduag Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 They need to expand FM 1464.... NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 They've had signs posted all along FM 1464 for months advertising this thing. I just always assumed it would be more single-family housing units, like what's cropping up in that area already (more of the same) but it appears this has more of a central theme to it. I can only imagine what affect it will have on traffic both on FM 1464 (which will need to be expanded to at least four lanes more than likely) and the existing Grand Parkway. Seems like that long predicted infill (or whatever you prefer to call it) along GP is starting to pick up momentum. There's already a lot of new development underway just south of FM 1093 along GP as it stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 all that is Richmond out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 At last year's HOA meeting we were told that TXDOT has already done all the studies, and is in the final stages of preparation for expansion. This year's meeting is this Tuesday, so I'll get the latest info.Channeltwonews: Could you most more of the story for all of us "non-subscribers" to that website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) At last year's HOA meeting we were told that TXDOT has already done all the studies, and is in the final stages of preparation for expansion. This year's meeting is this Tuesday, so I'll get the latest info.Channeltwonews: Could you most more of the story for all of us "non-subscribers" to that website?Edit: Found an archived version of the article here. Edited May 26, 2007 by ChannelTwoNews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduag Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 It looks like they are ready to build homes....At the corner of 1464/madden rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timnwendy Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 It will be interesting to see if the Aliana site's close proximity to the prison keeps buyers away...or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Found this on fortbendnow.com today. Yet another smallish neighborhood for the southern end of FM 1464. The big developments like Telfair and Aliana automatically get an elementary school, but the smaller developments get nothing. So now, in addition to Chelsea Harbour, Orchard Lakes, Stratford Park, and Old Orchard, we'll have another similar size development with another hundred or so kids who won't have a school to call their own. My kids have gone to three different elementary schools in three years, and I imagine when the school in Telfair fills up, they'll be shipping us off again. ### San Antonio Company To Develop Homes On Land Bought From State by Bob Dunn, Feb 04, 2008, 03 24 PM San Antonio-based Great America Cos. plans to develop a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Finally found site plans and renderings on the web. Seemed like it was too big to upload, so here's the link:http://www.gayledaniel.com/files/706425/Al...%2012.15.06.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timnwendy Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) It looks very nice. Polo club and everything. Nice brick walls. Is that one of the prison units I see in one of the aerial photos? I think so. Of course it's (conveniently) not labelled. Edited February 5, 2008 by Timnwendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes, I believe Owens Road leads into the prison. That's over there by the big brown area that is keyed as "future development." Also known as, "um ... we're not sure what to do here." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieDidIt Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes, I believe Owens Road leads into the prison. That's over there by the big brown area that is keyed as "future development." Also known as, "um ... we're not sure what to do here." With all the choices of places to live in Houston, why would anyone plunk down a large sum of money to live near a prison? I think its funny, The Upscale Living-Prison Included package. When signs in the area say, "Don't pick up Hitchikers," that ought to tell you something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cla Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 It will be interesting to see if the Aliana site's close proximity to the prison keeps buyers away...or not.I thought I heard or read somewhere (maybe mistakenly) that the Jester prison was relocating. It would make sense - I am sure that land is more valuable as residential/commercial real estate than prison farm land. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor of a prison relocatioin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduag Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I think we live in the same neighborhood! I was under the impression FBISD already purchased some land in Aliana to build an Elementary school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Actually, now that I've looked at a satellite image on Google Maps, looks like the developer has the wrong road labeled as Owens. The actual Owens Road is a little further south, as is the prison ...I thought I heard or read somewhere (maybe mistakenly) that the Jester prison was relocating. It would make sense - I am sure that land is more valuable as residential/commercial real estate than prison farm land. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor of a prison relocatioin?Actually, I think the City of Sugar Land is trying to get the state to relocate the Central prison unit, which is near U.S. 90A and Highway 6 (next to the airport). The city wants this land to expand its business park. Story here:http://www.fortbendnow.com/news/3843/sugar...elocation-study Edited February 5, 2008 by jrc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduag Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 It will be built on 12 acres of land that trustees also approved buying at a cost of $601,128 or $50,094 per acre from developer Sienna/Johnson. Both actions were approved at the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes, there's a site for an elementary school smack in the middle of Aliana. But that's not a long-term solution for us. Just like the school in Telfair, it will fill up with kids who actually live in the neighborhood, and we'll be forced to move again. I have already sent an e-mail to the school board, still waiting for a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes, Owens runs just north of Jester, which the developer's map has labelled incorrectlyhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&...p;z=16&om=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 LOL. I can't believe people are worried about living next to the prison. Your probably still safer then you would be ANYWHERE in Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Maybe it is just more of the creepy/ugly factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hey, I just noticed you CAN see the prison unit on the developer's site plan. It's the building in the lower left corner, right next to the development summary chart and just above the word "plan." Looks like they're putting a water treatment plant on the other side of 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yep - here is an amended map: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes, there's a site for an elementary school smack in the middle of Aliana. But that's not a long-term solution for us. Just like the school in Telfair, it will fill up with kids who actually live in the neighborhood, and we'll be forced to move again. I have already sent an e-mail to the school board, still waiting for a response. Send a letter too - It's more formal and sounds more serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduag Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 JRC Did you hear that the money to widen 1464/99 intersection dried up? Think of the traffic once Aliana starts to grow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 JRC Did you hear that the money to widen 1464/99 intersection dried up? Think of the traffic once Aliana starts to grow!Yeah, I heard about that. The story I read said they were "aggressively" pursuing other sources of funding. I know I've read elsewhere that there was a plan to use toll road money to complete non-toll road projects. Not sure if that's an option for 1464, though. Looking at the plans for Aliana, it's interesting to note that the main entrance to the neighborhood will be on 1464, and not on 99. But they will be extending West Airport and West Bellfort to 99, so that'll give people options for avoiding the bottlenecks. Also, 1464 will be widened from Airport to the Westpark Tollway, so maybe that'll encourage people to head north instead of south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Send a letter too - It's more formal and sounds more serious Ha ha ... Actually, we gave the school board an earful the last time they rezoned us. They know who we are. They blame our lack of a school on the developers, saying they tried to purchase land in the smaller communities, but the developers wouldn't do it. Maybe that's true, or maybe it's a convenient excuse, but I don't see why they can't buy a piece of land outside of a development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aapchad Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I thought I read in the Fort Bend Thursday supplemental section in the Chronicle that the prisons in Fort Bend were being reviewed/assessed for their "best and highest" use, which is a code language for "we want them the hell out of the way." I suspect the big developer money is talking loudly and calling for many of the units to be moved west away from most of the new development.The item in the paper specifically mentioned that the Sugar Land Regional Airport wanted the land next to it that is presently occupied by the prison. When we bought in Telfair we weren't fully aware of the long term plans for the airport, but I have heard people "theorizing" that SL leaders want a larger airport where regional jets could land, making SL a much more inviting corporate HQ type area. Then again, I've also heard that FedEx is looking for a hub in the area where they could land jets without being tied up at Intercontinental. I doubt the latter, but suspect the former to be at least partially true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I thought I read in the Fort Bend Thursday supplemental section in the Chronicle that the prisons in Fort Bend were being reviewed/assessed for their "best and highest" use, which is a code language for "we want them the hell out of the way." I suspect the big developer money is talking loudly and calling for many of the units to be moved west away from most of the new development.The item in the paper specifically mentioned that the Sugar Land Regional Airport wanted the land next to it that is presently occupied by the prison. When we bought in Telfair we weren't fully aware of the long term plans for the airport, but I have heard people "theorizing" that SL leaders want a larger airport where regional jets could land, making SL a much more inviting corporate HQ type area. Then again, I've also heard that FedEx is looking for a hub in the area where they could land jets without being tied up at Intercontinental. I doubt the latter, but suspect the former to be at least partially true.I've heard that the City of Houston created Cullinan Park (directly north of the airport) to keep Sugar Land from expanding its airport. Don't know if that's true, but it sure makes for a good story.The land just west of the airport is the Central prison unit. Sugar Land annexed the entire area (including a chunk of land owned by the developers of Chelsea Harbor), and zoned it for use as a business park. Now they want the state to move the Central unit. Not sure if any of the other prisons are being looked at.Here's one thing I don't understand: Why is the entrance to the Jester Units off FM 1464? It's a long drive from there to the prison, all the way on the other side of 99. Since they sold the last chunk of prison farm land (across from the Chevron station), the only remaining prison presence on FM 1464 is a crappy trailer park, and some shotgun-style houses. I believe this is housing for prison guards and/or trustys. With the development of Old Orchard on one side and the new development on the other, these buildings will be really out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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