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Houston beat Carolina today 34-21. The last touchdown by Carolina was just a blow off touchdown. The Texans had 34 unanswered points until that score.

It was areally good game.Dalas did well also. The new coach for the TEXANS is from Houston.

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^^What? The Cowboys have no place in this thread first of all, and I think everyone knows that Gary Kubiak is from Houston.

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^^What? The Cowboys have no place in this thread first of all, and I think everyone knows that Gary Kubiak is from Houston.

No doubt, and he's not a new coach, it's his second year.

News Flash: Kubiak is an Aggie also.

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No doubt, and he's not a new coach, it's his second year.

News Flash: Kubiak is an Aggie also.

Oh really???? I KNEW THAT ALSO MY FATHER GRADUATED FROM A&M I'm no big fan of BIG D either however they ARE a Texas team

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It's funny to see how the Texans' start is viewed by the national media:

"Impressive win over the Chiefs, but the first true test is next week at Carolina."

"Impressive win over Carolina, but the first true test is next week against Indy." :rolleyes:

Maybe the Texans are just pretty darn good after all?

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It was areally good game.Dalas did well also. The new coach for the TEXANS is from Houston.

Dallas blows Chunks, and I didn't even know they HAD a mascot !

Please go whine about Dallas somewhere else, this is the Texans thread, it's not about any other "team" or teams in the NFL. Texans only please.

Texans = 2008 Playoffs.

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It's funny to see how the Texans' start is viewed by the national media:

"Impressive win over the Chiefs, but the first true test is next week at Carolina."

"Impressive win over Carolina, but the first true test is next week against Indy." :rolleyes:

Maybe the Texans are just pretty darn good after all?

At 2-14 the Texans were pretty good. right now they are starting to put together a team. Kube is getting his scheme in place and getting the missing pieces to the puzzle. Indy will be a heck of a test to see how the Defense holds up against a real field general, that reads defenses like most people read the Chronicle, and calls audibles to adjust to them as well as any QB in the league. The ability to adjust is the key to success. New Orleans had Peyton Manning's number in the first half when they played, Peyton took them apart in the second half. The Texans ability to adjust to Indy will be tested, but all teams are tested any time they take the field.

Kube is a student of the game. if the front office leaves him alone and supports all his efforts, he will build a team like Houston has never seen. A team that is in the playoffs every year, not just a flash in the pan.

On a side note, did anyone see the HBO Bob Costas special and the interview with Earl Campbell? That was truly sad to see the most punishing runner ever to strap on pads, reduced to the state he is in now. And the way he takes it all in stride, like it was suppose to be this way is truly amazing. I really lost some respect for Bum Phillips when Costas asked him point blank if he felt he may have run Earl into the ground, or if he felt any remorse. Bum sat there and said "Nope". I just sat there in disbelief at the smug answer. It was truly sad.

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On a side note, did anyone see the HBO Bob Costas special and the interview with Earl Campbell? That was truly sad to see the most punishing runner ever to strap on pads, reduced to the state he is in now. And the way he takes it all in stride, like it was suppose to be this way is truly amazing. I really lost some respect for Bum Phillips when Costas asked him point blank if he felt he may have run Earl into the ground, or if he felt any remorse. Bum sat there and said "Nope". I just sat there in disbelief at the smug answer. It was truly sad.

No, I didn't catch it, but Earl is certainly THE cautionary tale that every RB today has in the back of their mind.

EC certainly was a punishing rusher, we just had no idea that he was the one getting punished.

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On a side note, did anyone see the HBO Bob Costas special and the interview with Earl Campbell? That was truly sad to see the most punishing runner ever to strap on pads, reduced to the state he is in now. And the way he takes it all in stride, like it was suppose to be this way is truly amazing. I really lost some respect for Bum Phillips when Costas asked him point blank if he felt he may have run Earl into the ground, or if he felt any remorse. Bum sat there and said "Nope". I just sat there in disbelief at the smug answer. It was truly sad.
John McClain said on the radio a month or so ago that the reason why he is that way is not b/c of football. He has some spinal condition that they didn't find out about until he was into adulthood. He said if the doctors would have found out about it before he played football as a kid, they never would have let him played.
It's funny to see how the Texans' start is viewed by the national media:"Impressive win over the Chiefs, but the first true test is next week at Carolina.""Impressive win over Carolina, but the first true test is next week against Indy." :rolleyes: Maybe the Texans are just pretty darn good after all?
I think we need to realize that the Texans WILL lose eventually this season. And when they do, it doesn't mean that they are not good. I expect us to be competitive next week vs. Indy and I have no doubt we can beat them. Our defense is pretty good for the most part. Heck, we beat 'em last year, and I don't care if it was the end of the season or not. We almost beat them once before too. We could always compete, it's just that we didn't have the pieces to put us over the top. Now we do.Does anyone else have those anxious butterflies in their stomach? I got 'em cuz I'm so glad we're this good, and I can't wait until this season continues to see how we do the rest of the year.This is really fun so far. And I love being the only Texans fan in the sports bar over here, while all those other band wagon fans are watching their teams lose or struggle.

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Indy is TOAST. Of course we are gonna lose a couple of games. We aren't the '72 Vikings or the '85 Bears. We are simply a young team with some explosive talent that has the absolute best coach to be able to bring that talent out of them. We have players that WANT to play for Kubiak. A quarterback that the offense respects, and a trio on defense that makes even the weaker players on our "D" look like probowlers right now. Need some work on Faggins, and some more O-line strength, other than that, the team looks pretty solid.

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Indy is TOAST. Of course we are gonna lose a couple of games. We aren;t the '72 Vikings or the '85 Bears. We are simply a young team with some explosive talent that has the absolute best coach to be able to bring that talent out of them. We have players that WANT to play for Kubiak. A quarterback that the offense respects, and a trio on defense that makes even the weaker players on our "D" look like probowlers right now. Need some work on Faggins, and some more O-line strength, other than that, the team looks pretty solid.

I agree Faggins needs some work, but he's still adequate, I think...I hope. But Steve Smith is just unbelievable. If it came down to it, it'd be hard to pick between him and Andre...hypothetically of course. The guy is just awesome and so explosive.

Plus, I don't know why Dunta wasn't covering him every play. Anyone know what the logic behind that might have been?

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I agree Faggins needs some work, but he's still adequate, I think...I hope. But Steve Smith is just unbelievable. If it came down to it, it'd be hard to pick between him and Andre...hypothetically of course. The guy is just awesome and so explosive.

Plus, I don't know why Dunta wasn't covering him every play. Anyone know what the logic behind that might have been?

That's why kubiak made the adjustment. He gave Faggins a chance and he couldn't deliver. Good caoching, good coaching.

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That's why kubiak made the adjustment. He gave Faggins a chance and he couldn't deliver. Good caoching, good coaching.

Nothing against Faggins, but I don't think he's nearly as good as Dunta. He's our best corner; a first rounder. He should always be covering the other teams best reciever.

I love football, but never played, so I don't know all the ins and outs of the X's and O's. But could it have been that he was covering him by default, b/c they each have their own side and that's just where Smith lined up?

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Nothing against Faggins, but I don't think he's nearly as good as Dunta. He's our best corner; a first rounder. He should always be covering the other teams best reciever.

I love football, but never played, so I don't know all the ins and outs of the X's and O's. But could it have been that he was covering him by default, b/c they each have their own side and that's just where Smith lined up?

Well, we had to make the adjustment. Carolina knew that Faggins would be weak against Smith, so they were calling plays to capitalize on that. Yes, Faggins and Dunta have their positions, but Kubiak gave Faggins a chance, and Carolina capitalized and exploited the weakness early, but we caught it in time.

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John McClain said on the radio a month or so ago that the reason why he is that way is not b/c of football. He has some spinal condition that they didn't find out about until he was into adulthood. He said if the doctors would have found out about it before he played football as a kid, they never would have let him played.

Oh well hell if Dr. McClain says so than I guess it must be true! John McClain is a sports writer and a fair sports writer at best.

They tried to give the same BS answer during the interview with Costas. Frankly I am not buying it. Earl loves football more than life itself, and will do anything to protect the integrity of the game. Sure he made a decision to play a sport that is in risk of crippling you for life, but to dismiss it as not fault of the game is idiocy. You are saying that at 52 years old Earl would be this way if he'd never played a down of ball? Please, give me a break. Earl is this way as a direct result of the game, they just won't shoulder any blame. There are ex-NFL player scattered all over that can barely walk. They are like race horses, once they are done with them they are put out to pasture and forgotten. You can't legally send humans to the soap factory like you can horses or they would. And pricks like Gene Upshaw sit up in his ivory tower and has the nerve to say he represents the NFL Players Association. Upshaw is the representative for the NFL owners ass, and posing as the other. Sitting on a multi-billion dollar pension fund that does nothing for the players from the past. Upshaw is the Owners house boy, who they pay to keep the current players from ever striking again. That about killed the NFL. They can ill afford to ever let that happen again.

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Oh well hell if Dr. McClain says so than I guess it must be true! John McClain is a sports writer and a fair sports writer at best.

I don't think McClan made the diagnosis. He's just relaying the information.

And I should have mentioned that I don't believe football had nothing to do with his current conditions. It does. I remember seeing clips a couple years ago of Jerome Bettis walking on a Monday morning. It was not pretty.

At the same time, I wouldn't totally neglect the consideration of his condition.

But did they really talk about it on that HBO special too? Did Costas have anything interesting to say in response, or did he just swallow it?

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Press Conference video:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80265934

Game Highlights:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80263c00

Panthers Post game press conference:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80263c4c

And how big was that fourth down conversion?! That pass could not have been more perfect and it was a great catch too. Big play.

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The most important play of the game was Kubiak 's challenge of the "interception" down inside the 10. If that ball hadn't have hit the ground, the score may have been different. Kube is THE MAN !

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The most important play of the game was Kubiak 's challenge of the "interception" down inside the 10. If that ball hadn't have hit the ground, the score may have been different. Kube is THE MAN !

Yeah, live it looked like an INT. Very good replay.

But since I was at Fox & Hound, I couldn't hear the commentators talk about Owen Daniel's fumble. From the replay, it looked like he was down, to me at least. Did the commentators disagree w/ the fumble call? Had we not fumbled that, the score would have really been one sided.

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He fumbled alright, his knee wasn't quite down, the shadow made it look like it might be, but it was a good call. We were definately getting hosed during the first quarter though. Some REALLY bad calls, and the call late in the game when the Zebras tried to say that Schaub intentionally grounded the ball, total B.S. He was completely OUT of the pocket, which allows him to throw to somebody in the 15th row if he wants to.

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Oh, ok. I like how CBS has that spotlight thing goin on replays. That helps.

And didn't they replay that intentionally grounding call too? Wow, and they still blew it.

Texans get a A+ grade from cbssportsline.com:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/features/writers/prisco/grades

That call, I don't believe, is challengable. Schaub was clearly almost stepping on the hashmark when he threw the ball. It was just the reaction of the fans that forced the refs to throw the flag on that one, you saw that it took almost a minute to throw the flag. We dodged a bullet on that kickoff return though, the ref was right on top of that though, he immediately signaled that it was a hit to the shoulder. I would say the refs were on an even keel, just a little less than consistent on the day.

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He was completely OUT of the pocket, which allows him to throw to somebody in the 15th row if he wants to.

I didn't see the play in question, but this is an incomplete explaination of the intentional grounding rule. Not only does the QB have to be out of the pocket, but the throw must cross the line of scrimmage.

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I didn't see the play in question, but this is an incomplete explaination of the intentional grounding rule. Not only does the QB have to be out of the pocket, but the throw must cross the line of scrimmage.

Both happened in this instance, it wasn't a lateral, he threw it through the back corner of the endzone. It was an obvious throw away. Nobody on the Texans side was disputing whether he threw it away, they were pointing out how Schaub was OUT of the pocket when he threw the ball.

BTW, you missed a really good game CDeb.

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BTW, you missed a really good game CDeb.

I was busy until early Sunday afternoon, so I didn't get to tune in until it was 34-14 and already decided.

I'm glad the Texans are 2-0, but it was bittersweet. I'm a huge Jake Delhomme fan (went to college with him). He's about the nicest guy you'll ever meet, on or off of a football field. Oh well, if the unthinkable happens and he gets benched in favor of Carr, it won't be because of this game.

The game against Indy is must-see TV, but I'll be in Cleveland that day, where there won't be a noon game on CBS (Browns on at 3). ARGH! :angry:

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The game against Indy is must-see TV, but I'll be in Cleveland that day, where there won't be a noon game on CBS (Browns on at 3). ARGH! :angry:

a sports bar is calling your name.

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I really hope Andre Johnson is healthy or we will be short a major weapon and will not go far. He is having an MRI on his knee today.

He is doubtful next week. He has a minor knee sprain. No swelling, and at most, will be out four weeks (but not likely). AJ is a warrior, and will be back real soon.

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I agree Faggins needs some work, but he's still adequate, I think...I hope. But Steve Smith is just unbelievable. If it came down to it, it'd be hard to pick between him and Andre...hypothetically of course. The guy is just awesome and so explosive.

Plus, I don't know why Dunta wasn't covering him every play. Anyone know what the logic behind that might have been?

I think one of the reasons that Faggins is covering receivers that DRob should be covering is that the Texans D likes to assign their corners not on player vs. player but player on field side.

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I think one of the reasons that Faggins is covering receivers that DRob should be covering is that the Texans D likes to assign their corners not on player vs. player but player on field side.

That's what I was thinking. I'm gonna email 610 and see what they say.

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I think one of the reasons that Faggins is covering receivers that DRob should be covering is that the Texans D likes to assign their corners not on player vs. player but player on field side.

That's what I said. They have their positions, but the Carolina offense exploited the weakness and the Texans adjusted. I can't recall which particular plays Faggins got burned by Smith ( I think it was ALL of them), but Kubiak eventually saw it before it was too late.

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That's what I said. They have their positions, but the Carolina offense exploited the weakness and the Texans adjusted. I can't recall which particular plays Faggins got burned by Smith ( I think it was ALL of them), but Kubiak eventually saw it before it was too late.

One, he's one of the best WR's in the game, so I expect him to burn the best of NFL cb's. Not that it's an excuse. But, the quick out and up route he scored on was pretty well defended. He got a hand on the ball, but Smith just made a great play by hitting it up and catching it again.

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One, he's one of the best WR's in the game, so I expect him to burn the best of NFL cb's. Not that it's an excuse. But, the quick out and up route he scored on was pretty well defended. He got a hand on the ball, but Smith just made a great play by hitting it up and catching it again.

All I'm saying is Dunta should have been on him the whole time, that is all I'm saying. It is simply my belief that Kubiak was giving Faggins a chance to shine, and he just isn't the caliber to hang with the Steve Smiths and Andre Johnsons of the NFL. I doubt Faggins will start against Harrington come next week. What say you ?

The play you are talking about where Smith tipped that ball up, IMO, was not defended all that well. Faggins was clearly out of position to make any REAL play on the ball. He was facing Smith when he should have been turned around looking for the ball, instead, he tried to crane his neck at the last moment and falls down, while Smith tips it up and stays with it. It was a good play, but a lucky play on Smith's part.

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All I'm saying is Dunta should have been on him the whole time is all I'm saying. It is simply my beleif that Kubiak was giving Faggins a chance to shine, and he just isn't the caliber to hang with the Steve Smiths and Andre Johnsons of the NFL. I doubt Faggins will start against Harrington come next week. What say you ?

I just asked the radio guys to ask coach Kubiak on his show, and they more or less did. He basically gave Carolina credit for moving Smith around a lot. He said he doesn't like to get too hung up on "the matchup."

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I just asked the radio guys to ask coach Kubiak on his show, and they more or less did. He basically gave Carolina credit for moving Smith around a lot. He said he doesn't like to get too hung up on "the matchup."

Until that "matchup" causes you to go 14 points in the hole. ;)

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I don't think McClan made the diagnosis. He's just relaying the information.

And I should have mentioned that I don't believe football had nothing to do with his current conditions. It does. I remember seeing clips a couple years ago of Jerome Bettis walking on a Monday morning. It was not pretty.

At the same time, I wouldn't totally neglect the consideration of his condition.

But did they really talk about it on that HBO special too? Did Costas have anything interesting to say in response, or did he just swallow it?

No Bob Costas wasn't buying it either. They interviewed an orthopedic specialist and he wasn't buying it either. Earl says that's what the NFL doctors told him was wrong. But an independent orthopedist told him it was repetitive blunt force trauma to the spine. Earl just kinda shrugged it off, like he did a thousand tacklers. It was truly sad. He gave his long term life comfort for "Luv Ya Blue". George W Bush when he was the Gov down here made Earl an "Official State Hero", and a life-size bronze statue stands right along side the other six in the Hall of State, Stephen F. Austin, Sam Houston, Mirabeau B. Lamar, James Walker Fannin, Jr., Thomas J. Rusk, and William B. Travis. One hell of an honor.

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That's what I said. They have their positions, but the Carolina offense exploited the weakness and the Texans adjusted. I can't recall which particular plays Faggins got burned by Smith ( I think it was ALL of them), but Kubiak eventually saw it before it was too late.

It was really only one. The other one, Faggins deflected the pass straight up in the air and Smith ran under it and caught the rebound.

Don't forget that Faggins made up for it by causing the fumble on the kickoff return that the Texans recovered for a touchdown.

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It was really only one. The other one, Faggins deflected the pass straight up in the air and Smith ran under it and caught the rebound.

Don't forget that Faggins made up for it by causing the fumble on the kickoff return that the Texans recovered for a touchdown.

Absolutely, and I like Faggins, I am glad he is on our team. I'll take him over 3/4 of the rest of the NFL in that position.

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No Bob Costas wasn't buying it either. They interviewed an orthopedic specialist and he wasn't buying it either. Earl says that's what the NFL doctors told him was wrong. But an independent orthopedist told him it was repetitive blunt force trauma to the spine. Earl just kinda shrugged it off, like he did a thousand tacklers. It was truly sad. He gave his long term life comfort for "Luv Ya Blue". George W Bush when he was the Gov down here made Earl an "Official State Hero", and a life-size bronze statue stands right along side the other six in the Hall of State, Stephen F. Austin, Sam Houston, Mirabeau B. Lamar, James Walker Fannin, Jr., Thomas J. Rusk, and William B. Travis. One hell of an honor.

So you think McClain just buys into that in support of Earl, b/c he respects and likes him so much?

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Guest Marty

The Texans are looking good from my prospective with the kickoff to touch down repeat, I think the Texans are going to be a team to be feared if this keeps up even if we lost to the Colts today.

Great game.

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Not bad considering we shot ourselves in the foot a couple times, got almost no pressure on peyton, and had four of our main offensive weapons out for either the entire game or most of it.

I like Schaub's poise and our depth at WR, too. I think the WRs are doing a good job getting open. I have faith that as long as they continue that, Schaub will get them the ball, regardless of who it is. Plus, they're doing catching the ball and not dropping it.

One dissapointment I had was our O-line. Our RB's have to fight for every yard they get and the pass protection was less than adequate today.

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Real good game against the SuperBowl champs, despite a couple of miscues. No.44 for Indy just ate our lunch yesterday, as he does against most teams. Faggins actually played pretty good "D" against Harrison yesterday also. The fact that the Texans never gave up, and the unity they showed when theirfellow player was down shows me that they are truly a TEAM. I anticipate them being in the playoffs this year. The Texans ARE capable of beating ANY team out there right now.

BTW, Killings is moving his arms and legs now, his teammates are saying he has almost ALL his strength back. GOOD NEWS !

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With all the injuries the Texans have on their roster, it's going to be a hard time for them to overcome the Falcons this Sunday. Now they saying Mathis probably won't play either, cause of his leg. Who's Big Bad Schaub go-to-guy now? Andre Davis? Kevin Walter? David Anderson? Owen Daniels? Jeb Putizer? Looks shaking to me.

Do Texans still have runningbacks? Ahman Green is out! Samkon Gado? Ron Dayne? He's playing with bruise ribs.

The defense better play like their in the Super Bowl already, if not, 2-2 they will go!

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They played much of their comeback against the Colts w/o those guys. I think they can still handle the falcons.

My theory is, the WR's will get open most the time and Schaub is good enough to find them, just like he did last Sunday.

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They are having to go DEEP into the Roster, but I feel confident that the Texans can handle the Falcons this week. Mario and the boys will have to put some pressure on the QB this week.

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With all the injuries the Texans have on their roster, it's going to be a hard time for them to overcome the Falcons this Sunday. Now they saying Mathis probably won't play either, cause of his leg. Who's Big Bad Schaub go-to-guy now? Andre Davis? Kevin Walter? David Anderson? Owen Daniels? Jeb Putizer? Looks shaking to me.

Do Texans still have runningbacks? Ahman Green is out! Samkon Gado? Ron Dayne? He's playing with bruise ribs.

The defense better play like their in the Super Bowl already, if not, 2-2 they will go!

Next week, AJ is back and a week after that, Jacoby will be back. Ahman Green may play tomorrow. Owen Daniels is a good TE and Andre Davis stepped up big time agaisnt the Colts (70 yards on just four receptions). I think we will be fine.

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