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Gone? what the heck? haha I'll be interested to find out why. I'm sure it's a mechanical or safety issue...some oversight

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Has anybody heard any additional info about this?

This is just a guess but I'm thinking they were just testing to make sure everything was in working order and then plan on putting them back in once Hess moves in. Hess is probably paying higher than average rent for this place and they want to use the turbines as a marketing/advertising tool once they move in. Maybe? I don't know...

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Seems like a lot of trouble to remove them, although maybe it's not as difficult as it seems. They must have a plan in place for hurricanes, so I guess they would need to be easy enough to remove/store for temporary periods. When does Hess move in?

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Seems like a lot of trouble to remove them, although maybe it's not as difficult as it seems. They must have a plan in place for hurricanes, so I guess they would need to be easy enough to remove/store for temporary periods. When does Hess move in?

June or July, I believe.

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Has anybody heard any additional info about this?

I haven't heard anything about it, but if I had to speculate, it'd be that aerodynamic turbulence associated with the design of the tower (or other towers nearby) was exerting unforeseen loads beyond the design capabilities of the turbines.

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One of the blades flew off and hit a car. If I had to bet, they are gone forever.

Funny how that wasn't reported in the news. The TV stations would have been all over it. How do you know?

If that is the case, then they weren't properly manufactured and had a weakness. Those things would have to stand much stronger winds, particularly since we are susceptible to hurricanes.

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One of the blades flew off and hit a car. If I had to bet, they are gone forever.

Tht's crazy if true. I'd also like to hear of some more concrete evidence.

Thanks

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One of the blades flew off and hit a car. If I had to bet, they are gone forever.

I'm with ricco, How do you know this?

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They were very lucky it did not make the news (it hit a subcontractor's pickup, not a random passing vehicle). I've heard and confirmed this from multiple sources, all of whom have direct knowledge of the tenant and building.

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Furthermore - if you are Hess and your new headquarters just had a piece of a wind turbine fly off of it and hit something (and recognizing that the turbines produce less than 1% of the buildings energy), would you knowingly allow them to be put back onto the building you 100% occupy? The answer is probably no, because if it happens again and hurts someone, you have a major PR crisis on your hand.

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They were very lucky it did not make the news (it hit a subcontractor's pickup, not a random passing vehicle). I've heard and confirmed this from multiple sources, all of whom have direct knowledge of the tenant and building.

What a load of B.S. This sounds like a complete lie to me. Another lonely cybergeek just looking for some much needed attention or something like that.

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"I don't always post on HAIF, but when I do, I prefer apologies"

I'm sorry you don't know how to find links to back up what you say. I'm sorry I don't believe everything I read on the internet. And I'm really sorry that the defective turbine didn't land on your head. Just kidding.

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I work for a local tv station here. I'm on it. I'll see what I can find out.

Hopefully they find a secure way to put the turbines back in... I fee like they set a new standard for buildings (at least in Houston)... those with moving parts, and those without.

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Hopefully they find a secure way to put the turbines back in... I fee like they set a new standard for buildings (at least in Houston)... those with moving parts, and those without.

Perhaps someone should start a thread to promote buildings with moving parts, much as someone has for promoting downtown lighting. Therein, we can all find the courage to flush toilets on an excessive and unnecessary basis and contribute to ecological degradation.

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Perhaps someone should start a thread to promote buildings with moving parts, much as someone has for promoting downtown lighting. Therein, we can all find the courage to flush toilets on an excessive and unnecessary basis and contribute to ecological degradation.

Sounds good but only for buildings with moving parts in Houston, otherwise I don't really care to comment.

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Sounds good but only for buildings with moving parts in Houston, otherwise I don't really care to comment.

Let me put it another way for the humorless among us. If a building has a working toilet, then it will already have moving parts. Those parts, which move in a clockwise direction, provide a good rhetorical analog to my opinion of the moving parts that are the subject of this thread.

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Let me put it another way for the humorless among us. If a building has a working toilet, then it will already have moving parts. Those parts, which move in a clockwise direction, provide a good rhetorical analog to my opinion of the moving parts that are the subject of this thread.

haha i think everyone already understood what you were saying....

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Isn't that a LOT of green?

Maybe so, but Hess' colors are green and white.

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Maybe so, but Hess' colors are green and white.

I had a close friend who worked for Hess at the time they moved into One Allen Center. They did the same thing with that move-in where the IT department moved in first while the rest of the build-out was going on. One day, John Hess and his entourage walked through for a tour and stated that the green color in the carpeting was not the correct Hess green. All of the carpet was subsequently ripped out and replaced. And one other quirky thing: employees were allowed to have one "tastefully framed" photograph of a family member on their desks, but wall calendars and other "clutter" was strictly prohibited. In the cubicles, the file cabinets had top doors that opened out over the top of the file cabinet so it would knock off any items that were placed up there.

But they did have a killer dining facility with all kinds of great food, including a grill where you could get chicken, hamburgers, or even mahi-mahi, a deli for sandwiches, gourmet entrees and soups, etc. And I think it was only like $3 per meal for employees. I guess if you can keep employees in the building for lunch, they'll have more time for work!

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Finally! The first major important chink in the overhyped "Green Movement"! A massive blow to this trend. The LEED Gold Status should be ripped from the building as well now, drop it down to silver. All that expense and over design and promotion and "good intentions" for nothing. They could have saved millions and not endangered the citizens of the city by simply purchasing the buildings power from wind farms!

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That link was already posted above by DrLan34

Yeah, originally, my browser at work didn't show any messages beyond 952. Made me look like an idiot. (Sigh).

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I had a close friend who worked for Hess at the time they moved into One Allen Center. They did the same thing with that move-in where the IT department moved in first while the rest of the build-out was going on. One day, John Hess and his entourage walked through for a tour and stated that the green color in the carpeting was not the correct Hess green. All of the carpet was subsequently ripped out and replaced. And one other quirky thing: employees were allowed to have one "tastefully framed" photograph of a family member on their desks, but wall calendars and other "clutter" was strictly prohibited. In the cubicles, the file cabinets had top doors that opened out over the top of the file cabinet so it would knock off any items that were placed up there.

But they did have a killer dining facility with all kinds of great food, including a grill where you could get chicken, hamburgers, or even mahi-mahi, a deli for sandwiches, gourmet entrees and soups, etc. And I think it was only like $3 per meal for employees. I guess if you can keep employees in the building for lunch, they'll have more time for work!

True at one time, but not today. Ties are no longer mandatory, casual dress now rules the roost. Clutter abounds depending on the individual and no one cares. The food is good, $2 for all u can eat breakfasts, $5 for all u can eat lunches. The new restaurant will be tricked out even more as far as lunches go. The green is a Hess color and has a specific RGB/CMYK combination and yes, John Hess is very picky about that and where it is displayed. Notice the NY Jets have the same color? Not coincidence. Hess used to own the Jets.

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Yeah, originally, my browser at work didn't show any messages beyond 952. Made me look like an idiot. (Sigh).

His post was #966. It wasn't meant to make you look like an idiot, just to let you know that it was already posted by a different user.

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His post was #966. It wasn't meant to make you look like an idiot, just to let you know that it was already posted by a different user.

I meant that the browser made me look like an idiot, not you. No harm, no foul. Just a technical glitch and possibly some inobservance on my part.

You will now be returned to your regularly scheduled program.

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So I was talking to one of the contractors and he said they they do indeed plan on putting the turbines back in eventually. When I asked when, he said they are just trying to finish the building first so I don't have a timeline. Hopefully he is right.

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So I was talking to one of the contractors and he said they they do indeed plan on putting the turbines back in eventually. When I asked when, he said they are just trying to finish the building first so I don't have a timeline. Hopefully he is right.

Yeah, I'm sure it's last on their list now. Too bad it won't be in time for the final four (i'm assuming).

Also, there is another building, I believe in Shanghai that is going up that will have 40+ wind turbines, however I think they're enclosed and not visible.

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This is from wikipedia. Does anyone know if this is true/have details on this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hess_Tower

"The development also will feature two-stories of retail and restaurant space overlooking a landscaped arrival court and water garden, and a 10-story parking structure on the adjacent northern block. CB Richard Ellis, an affiliate of Trammell Crow, is responsible for marketing of the development."

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Its pretty nice inside. Good views over Disco G from the main lobby. Folks are gradually moving in through August. Still construction going on though.

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Its pretty nice inside. Good views over Disco G from the main lobby. Folks are gradually moving in through August. Still construction going on though.

Any word/rumors about what happened with the wind turbines?

I've been looking all over the 'net for the information, but while I trust the explanation mentioned on HAIF, its always good to get additional verification.

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I think its clear what happened to them in the past, but John Hess was adamant that they are to never return unless the builder can guarantee 100% this would never happen again. Last I heard, they are being re-engineered and will return, but I have nothing official, just whispers.

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What a disappointment it would be if they didn't ever return. I think it is quite imperative that sometime in the next few years that they return. The building is quickly becoming an icon of south downtown and Houston's commitment to future renewable energy.

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I think its clear what happened to them in the past, but John Hess was adamant that they are to never return unless the builder can guarantee 100% this would never happen again. Last I heard, they are being re-engineered and will return, but I have nothing official, just whispers.

Safety aside, I also wonder about the noise and vibration that is transmitted to the top floor of the building. When those turbines get going, they get LOUD.

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Seems smart to me.

Not having a symbol of energy efficiency on top of your building sounds better than having a turbine fall off of Hess Tower and kill someone, with the liability and bad publicity that entails.

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FYI:

I noticed some work being done in the space where the turbines were. I am wondering if they are about start installations again.

Anyone?

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