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Someone mentioned Idylwood a while ago and it reminded me of some thoughts I had from last week when I was there visiting a friend. Nice, historica area surrounded by nice landscaping and natural scenery. However, with that, it seems as if it is detached from some of the other nearby areas, areas that aren't quite as impressive but are far from dicey.

It also looks as if it could be the catalyst for a larger resurgence of the area in general if someone invested in amenities such as expanded retail, roads (both Wayside and Lawdale are in pretty rough shape).

Brays Bayou could be rehabbed into quite a jewel, given the green and tree-lined surroundings.

Culturally and commercially, there could be more connectivity between Idylwood and some of the other areas to the immediate east and west. Some of the empty parcels along I-45 just south of the area could be replaced by new housing or businesses (the old Quality Inn Hotel has been demolished but I have no idea if there will be anything to replace it).

Anyone else familiar with the area?

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I just handled a transaction in there. Idylwood's popularity has spilled over into Houston Country Club estates across the Lawndale/Wayside intersection. I think the RDA-Houston Mod tour is going to feature a home in the area. I would think with all the new development pushing east from downtown, the new Gulfgate renovations, etc., that maybe there will be some positive development coming in place of the old motel they tore down.

Of course inner-loop Houston has always been a block-by-block adventure, improvements will probably come in a patchwork fashion, but I think they will come.

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Of course inner-loop Houston has always been a block-by-block adventure, improvements will probably come in a patchwork fashion, but I think they will come.

At this point, this area is still mostly unknown to most Houstonians. I agree that, gradually, 1) this area is being discovered and appreciated and that 2) development is proceeding gradually.

As far as specific improvements, Brays Bayou, as it passes through Mason Park, is being further developed as a wetlands as part of Project Brays. It's already protected as one through there, but now one side of it is being meticulously graded and planted as one. The jogging track, which is one of the nicer ones in the city, will be even nicer soon.

There's a small retail center planned at Lawndale & Wayside, but other than that, I don't know of any developments in the immediate area. Perry Homes had planned a big development on Lawndale called The Enclave but heresay is that they backed out for now. Maybe they were stretching themselves too much too soon on that one.

The East End closer to downtown is, of course, booming. The townhouses have spread east to Lockwood and to Clinton Dr. to the north. Wulfe & Co. ( Meyerland, Gulfgate, Pasadena Towne) bought the old Stevenson & Stevenson plant on Harrisburg and have plans for another retail center. The MetroRail is supposed to run down Harrisburg to the Magnolia Transit Center then down 75th/Garland to Gulfgate TC, which is currently under construction.

I live down the road from Idylwood and if more people knew about these neighborhoods, the developments would quicken. It's really a great spot. All the houses are old/historic, since home construction pretty much filled everything in over here by 1950.

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As far as specific improvements, Brays Bayou, as it passes through Mason Park, is being further developed as a wetlands as part of Project Brays. It's already protected as one through there, but now one side of it is being meticulously graded and planted as one. The jogging track, which is one of the nicer ones in the city, will be even nicer soon.

That's great news.

When you include Mason Park Estates, Pecan Park, Country Club Estates and Forest Hill, that entire area is very underrated, and I agree that with further redevelopment east of downtown, through the warehouse district and into the East End, you could have a charming series of neighborhoods almost on the same level as those that extend west of downtown as well as in the Heights.

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That's great news.

When you include Mason Park Estates, Pecan Park, Country Club Estates and Forest Hill, that entire area is very underrated, and I agree that with further redevelopment east of downtown, through the warehouse district and into the East End, you could have a charming series of neighborhoods almost on the same level as those that extend west of downtown as well as in the Heights.

I bought a house in Simms Woods subdivision which is adajacent to Houston Country Club Place. The longtime residents I have met say that HCCP and Idylwood were always nice because they were separated from the rundown subdivisions to the north laid out on the exsiting city grid along Harrisburg Road and Navigation Boulevard by their self-contained street patterns and also because large blocks of land nearby are off limits to incompatible development (Gus Wortham Golf Course, Villa de Matel Nunnery and Woodlawn Cemetary). They also have active civic clubs that try to enforce deed restrictions.

Idylwood is by far the nicest subdivision in the area and is now starting to see new development. A handful of dreadful new McMansions are replacing the original brick bungalows.

There is actually a fair amount of activity in the East End now. There is a new commercial strip being done up with a Latin theme called "Tlaquepaque Marketplace" that was written up in the Chronicle on 31 December 2004. Also a new park where Sgt. Macario Garcia Drive (aka Wayside Drive) crosses the ship channel is now past the planning stage and ready for construction since the city bought the acreage from the Trust for Public Land (Chronicle, 9 December 2004).

There is also the plan by the architecture firm Rey De La Reza to "redevelop" the entrances to the East End. This firm, you will remember, was responsible for the amusing red balls on the new bridges over the Southwest Freeway where it slices through Montrose.

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Joining a bit late on the Idlewood conversation, I was just recently there, and it seems like they're already doing the "McMansions" deal going on. I've already seen 3 of them put in the brief drive through I did a couple of weeks or so.

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Last weekend I spent a few hours riding around the East End and got to check out the Pineview Place, Country Club Place, and Idylwood subdivisions. Overall it seems there are some really nice but not well known neighborhoods. It's easy to see this area booming next. Thanks to Danax and Hizzy for pointing these out.

Bhk mentions a plan to redevelop the "entrances" to the East End. Does anyone have any information on this, or what are considered the "entrances"? Sounds like it would be a great project to give the area some identity.

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I have owned a fully updated home in Idylwood for a few years now. I agree that its boundaries (Bayou/cemetary, Lawndale, Wayside, Villa deMatel convent) have kept it isolated. That isolation served the neighborhood well during the 'bad years,' but unfortunately it has also allowed Idylwood to prosper at a greater rate than other nearby neighborhoods, leaving them somewhat behind. People who move into the area purchase because they loved the beauty of the homes, the hills, etc, not because of the proximity of retail or other businesses.

There is a desperate need for more retail that appeals to young professionals. Until this happens, Heights and Montrose will keep the lead on price/sq ft.

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There is a desperate need for more retail that appeals to young professionals.  Until this happens, Heights and Montrose will keep the lead on price/sq ft.

LOL. You want your property taxes to skyrocket? The reason the Heights and Montrose have such high prices psf are for basically the same reasons....teardowns.

The Heights has seen a bunch of teardowns with 3-4k sqft replacements in the deed restricted areas, and high density development in the non restricted areas.

Montrose has tons and tons of multi family rental, condos, townhouses, which were begat by teardowns.

I, personally, wouldn't like to see Idylwood turn into teardown central, but it could very well do so as the rest of the surrounding area becomes better and better.

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That is one fortunate thing about that area, the lack of "Mcmansionism". (Did I just make up a word?) I guess this is the reason personally I have found the near East end appealing. Despite the rough around the edges characteristics of many of the areas, (not Idylwood though), and the shortage of retail outside of Gulfgate, the neighborhoods are more intact. Cottage neighborhoods like Idylwood & Houston Country Club & Simms Woods, with few exceptions so far, remain cottage neighborhoods. Mid-century one story neighborhoods like Glenbrook Valley & Meadowbrook remain generally long low one story homes. These areas have seen some dreadfully boring red-brick type faux Georgians come in, but so far it is still small enough in number not to destroy the character of the neighborhoods, for now.

Idylwood, unlike Montrose and a great portion of the Heights, does have deed restrictions which are enforced. That will at least keep it from being paved over in townhomes. Hopefully there are set back and height restrictions which will help maintain the character of the neighborhood, which currently is absolutely wonderful.

If anyone has not had the opportunity to explore Idylwood, I highly recommend a drive through the area. It's a great looking place.

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Idylwood's deed restrictions limits the size of lots and what can be placed on them (single family only), so there won't be any subdividing assuming the minimum lot size is maintained. There are firm setback restrictions, though I'm not aware of height restrictions.

The two brand new homes that are in the neighborhood came from a very large lot that was divided into smaller lots when the original owners passed away, much to the chagrin of the immediate neighbors I'm sure, but still within the confines of the restrictions. The restrictions are currently being updated, and though they will still be much more lax than the suburbs (no ACCs or anything like that), they will probably be a model for other East End 'hoods.

As for increased property taxes...while my pocketbook doesn't like them, they are a fact of life in gentrified inner city neighborhoods. You take the good (higher selling price) with the bad.

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I adore Idylwood.  It's what is immediately surrounding it that I don't adore.  However, when I drive through it, I feel almost as if I am in a different state entirely.  Rolling hills in Houston?  :blink: Whodathunkit?

Plenty of rolling hills around..... Glynwood Cemetary has 'em, as well as some beautiful landscaping. Forest Hill (near Idylwood) also has some gorgeous hills.

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One problem with Idylwood is that too many people went it there with the intention of buying then selling for a large profit.  the numerous real estate agents inflated prices for a few years and were making the bucks.  Last year prices fell there over 10% and from what i heard large profits are gone.  houses there are just as old as the rest of the eastside and many of them need just as much work.  i had a HARD time even thinking about paying such inflated prices for a home that doesn't have enough closet space.  Stay away from houses near Braes as those flood.

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Higher taxes do NOT result in an increased selling price esp when prices are already over inflated. 

What i thought was funny, my parents lived there for years until recently.  When Idylwood began the process of updating restrictions, they wanted to be VERY strict however many of the residents were against the restrictions so they didn't sign. 

As a result the civic club had to change them or not have neighborhood support.  My parents complained for years about the number of parked cars.  Many of the homes only have single width driveways which at times causes problems so cars park on streets.  But now under the new restrictions, garage apartmens are allowed which only makes the problem worse as now more cars will be in the neighborhood.  Even though they say single family, people are renting out space left and right which is in violation of deed restrictions. 

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but these are only half-truths. Yes there are definitely people who moved into the area looking to make quick profits, but for the most part that isn't the case as people move into the area to actually set up a home and live in it. And yes, while many homes in the neighborhood need a lot of work, they are also priced significantly less than those in very good shape. Which beings me to my next point: It is very simplistic to compare a 10% decrease in market value year-over-year and say that values are declining. In old neighborhoods it is all about the quality of housing stock. The majority of homes that sold last year where not remodeled (or were badly remodeled) and so in need of quite a bit of work to bring them to standard. That was reflected in their selling price. In old neighborhoods you have to compare comparables.

And Idylwood homes not having enough closet space? I'm confused. You do realize these are 30's and 40's-era homes, right? Many homes still have one bathroom too! :D

Finally, the deed restrictions aren't yet fully approved, though there is no reason to think they won't be as support from the majority of homes is strong. Garage apartments are OK, just as long as they aren't rented out--single family only. No parking on the lawn, but parking in the street is fine as the streets are public and can't be regulated. And I'm not sure what you mean about the old round of restrictions being too strict. There was no previous round, only surveys to see what people were interested in seeing in the new restrictions. The new restrictions are on their website at http://www.idylwood-houston.org

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No bubble was burst.  Averages are at the minimum, a barometer.  There are always homes that sell for more and those that sell for less than the average.  But when the average goes down, so has the selling price, in general.  I"m not saying you can't make more, it's just that that likelyhood of making more has gone down.

Sounds to me like someone has their house on the market with the references to higher property taxes result in higher resale, etc.  My parents told me that they recently drove by their old place in Idylwood and were surprised how many homes were for sale there.  She said a couple were on the market before they sold and are still on the market. 

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Individual properties that are overpriced don't sell--they don't sell in any neighborhood in the city, actually. There are homes that stay on the market forever it seems, and there are a few here. But the funny thing about those homes is, well, there is a reason they are still for sale. Until you go inside them, or actually take the time to ask "why?" (bad location, flood risk, bad remodel, estate sale?) then of course all you have are stats (days on market, price/sq ft). It usually pays to be a little more informed. A quick search on HAR showed 11 single family and 1 multi-family properties on the market (or 4% of the total home in the neighborhood), and two of those have a pending sale. In my experience there are always around 13 -15 homes for sale at any particular time, of course adjusted for seasonality.

And no my house is not on the market, but like many people on this board, I follow real estate as a hobby. And, like many people on this board, I get irritated when people spout stats as gospel.

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Idylwood is strong & sells well. If anyone in there thinks they need to sell their home for 10% less than it was worth last year, please let me know, I could line up a lot of buyers!! :P

The first quarter of 2004 three homes sold in Idylwood, so far this year 6 have closed, three of those sold in less than 10 days. A couple more are pending. Overall market activity in Idylwood is increasing, not stagnating. In fact, while Idylwood is a better bargain than the Heights & others, I wouldn't exactly call it undiscovered either.

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If anyone in there thinks they need to sell their home for 10% less than it was worth last year, please let me know, I could line up a lot of buyers!! :P

I only said average sale price went down 10% per HCAD sales data not that they are selling them for 10% less than they are worth. The Chronicle does their yearly summary which should be out soon.

On another note, I was biking nearer to downtown and UrbanLiving had a "new" looking house on Bryan street, right off of Sherman. It really was surprising see this structure in the middle of all the old houses. I looked inside and saw new sheetrock, etc. However, the light fixtures were HORRIBLE. Right out of home depot. After researching on HAR, it said the house was restored. The ones i were with also thought it was a bad restoration. And the price......177k.

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The MetroRail is supposed to run down Harrisburg to the Magnolia Transit Center then down 75th/Garland to Gulfgate TC, which is currently under construction.

An update on this. I met with several METRO board members regarding the east side line. It seems the developers are now pushing for the line to be on Navigation instead of Harrisburg. They want to develop the area north of Navigation for homes...get this, with boat slips. We'll see what happens in the future with this.

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On another note, I was biking nearer to downtown and UrbanLiving had a "new" looking house on Bryan street, right off of Sherman.  It really was surprising see this structure in the middle of all the old houses.  I looked inside and saw new sheetrock, etc.  However, the light fixtures were HORRIBLE.  Right out of home depot.  After researching on HAR, it said the house was restored.  The ones i were with also thought it was a bad restoration.  And the price......177k.

From the picture on HAR (MLS 4015096), this house looks very nice and I would be inclined to look further. Is this offically Eastwood, or just Eastwood-area? I have been in a number of Idylwood, Heights, and Montrose homes and am always saddened when they aren't remodeled to suit the era they were built. Not that everything needs to come out of the Rejunivations catalog, LOL, but there should be some homage paid to the original style while bringing the overall feel into this century. Of course it is their home and they can remodel how they choose, but generally resale *will* suffer. If I wanted something that looked brand new (basic moldings, carpet over hardwoods), I would buy new!

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From the picture on HAR (MLS 4015096), this house looks very nice and I would be inclined to look further.  Is this offically Eastwood, or just Eastwood-area?  I have been in a number of Idylwood, Heights, and Montrose homes and am always saddened when they aren't remodeled to suit the era they were built.  Not that everything needs to come out of the Rejunivations catalog, LOL, but there should be some homage paid to the original style while bringing the overall feel into this century.  Of course it is their home and they can remodel how they choose, but generally resale *will* suffer. 

You COULD look further however when you'll see it, you'll say that the craftsmanship is poor. The plugs were cockeyed, the front columns looked as if they were hurriedly crafted, even the wood floors looked mediocre. Nearby some of the neighborhood has big yards but this one was small but they did put in a new driveway. No this isn't Eastwood but is VERY close. I will add that several of the houses were just as stately as Eastwood. They would just need some TLC.

I agree with your comment about paying homage to the original style. TOO many homes have been butchered on the east side. Make shift addons with flat roofs, replacing a classic front door with something tacky, etc. I know my back porch is a bad addon, however i like sitting there when the rain is coming down.

My house was originally shiplapped with wallpaper over it. When they put up sheetrock, a lot of the original moulding was removed. But luckily Montalbano lumber had the match to the original. The children of the original owner can't believe it's the same house.

My bathroom was HORRIBLE. I did keep the original tub and toilet but i found a matching pedestal sink which works well. It's simple but i'm happy. I put a tiled floor with a cultured marble tub surround. I decided to use the marble cause I've noticed too many of these old houses where the bathrooms are ruined cause of water damage around the tub. Since the pier and beam houses shift so much...tile is always compromised.

When i saw the nob and tube mess in my attic, i decided to redo ALL the electrical for safety's sake. As a result i also decided to splurge on fixtures. I actually did use Rejuvenation in my dining room cause i found that i liked the 1930's design. My bathroom one is really modern but people think it goes well with the rest of the room.

The smartest thing i did was hire out the floors. I've received many compliments on the job.

The original owner had some great classic plants, gardenia, amaryllis, roses, etc. I just need to get that all together. I had several landscape people come over but all they bring is decorative grasses, bushes and hacked crepe myrtles which i can't stand. I prefer the classic plants.

I will say that i don't have it all together yet, but it is at least liveable now.

Just wish i had MORE wall space so i can hang all my favorite artwork and collections. :)

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I only said average sale price went down 10% per HCAD sales data not that they are selling them for 10% less than they are worth.  The Chronicle does their yearly summary which should be out soon.

On another note, I was biking nearer to downtown and UrbanLiving had a "new" looking house on Bryan street, right off of Sherman.  It really was surprising see this structure in the middle of all the old houses.  I looked inside and saw new sheetrock, etc.  However, the light fixtures were HORRIBLE.  Right out of home depot.  After researching on HAR, it said the house was restored.  The ones i were with also thought it was a bad restoration.  And the price......177k.

the subdivision price trend data listed on HAR is supplied by Crawford Realty Advisors and refers to median appraised value, not sales.

Running the reports on actual sales for Idylwood, 2003 had a median of $101.74 psf, while 2004 had a median of $116.02 psf

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What 'hoods would you consider undiscovered?

well, IMHO, that would be pretty limited to southeast. It's pretty limited period. North, west, southwest is pretty much stuff everybody knows about already. Garden Villas is one area, (southeast). Some of the homes are from the 30's. Huge lots, very rural feel. Pecan trees canopy the streets and most of the lawns. Some sections to the south are not that nice, but Haywood and Simms streets have some really nice homes that would appeal to people who don't want to llive in a subdivision. Most people in Houston still have no idea about Glenbrook Valley. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this board alone who have been to Hobby a thousand times but were surprised the first time they drove through the hilly streets next to Sims Bayou. Meadowcreek Village has some incredible homes too.

Just a few years ago I would have included Lindale Park, Eastwood, & Idylwood, but I think the word is definitely out on those areas.

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the subdivision price trend data listed on HAR is supplied by Crawford Realty Advisors and refers to median appraised value, not sales. 

Running the reports on actual sales for Idylwood, 2003 had a median of $101.74 psf, while 2004 had a median of $116.02 psf

Must be a realtor...........trying ot make a sale.

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Boat slips? What kind of boats are they thinking of? Yachts sailing past oil tankers in the ship channel? :blink:  I wonder how much influence our buddy Michael Berry has in all of this as, last time I checked, he had some raw land listings north of Navigation going for more than 1 million per acre.

No matter how it turns out, the transformation of Buffalo Bayou will be a great boon to the EastEnd and the city.

Interesting about Mr. Berry. I know he's running again cause i got a personal invite to a fundraiser with David Saperstein, the traffic guru. i'll have to do some research.

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...the transformation of Buffalo Bayou will be a great boon to the EastEnd and the city
How likely is this to happen? How complete will it be? And how soon?

What are the plans for the bayou near Idylwood? Somewhere along the bayou (off wayside?), there's an old apartment compex that follows the contour of the bayou. What at the plans for the bayou there? Could that turn into prime property?

Do you think those apartments on Fairview (?) leading into Simms Woods/Country Club Place will be destroyed and replaced, possibly with townhomes, any time soon? I think that would be a big boon to the area.

I like the curved streets of Forest Hill, but it looks ripe for teardowns and McMansions as some homes are modestly priced and have lots that are larger than average.

EDIT: I guess my post basically asks, "What's the Untapped Potential of the East End around Idylwood?"

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The bayou along Forrest Hill and Idylwood will be changed pretty dramatically. This detail was released by HCFCD (Harris Country Flood Control):

Forrest Hill: Boat launch is planned. Not like ski boats, but canoes and kayaks.

Mason Park: New nature preserve (can't think of the exact name, but I believe work is almost finished).

Idylwood: Three linear retaining walls will be installed along sections of the bayou. From Idylwood proper, you will see the 2 walls on the cemetary side, but will only see a little lip on Idylwood side. The bayou won't be lined with concrete like Brays is along Meyerland, but the retaining walls are needed to control erosion along some steep vertical sections. Funds are set aside to completely relandscape the area with native plants and trees, and a vine will be planted to grow on (soften) the walls, similar to what was done on the new section of SW fwy. There will be a service ramp near where MacGregor meets Sylvan that can also be used as a kayak/canoe launch. Bike and walking paths are not certain, but residents are hopeful.

Oh, and new bridges at Forrest Hill and Lawndale, ideally with decorative lighting.

We assume that the few homes that flood will be spared future problems since the water should be able to move with much more speed out to the Gulf. Will that really happen? Only time will tell! Thankfully my house is very high up!

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How likely is this to happen? How complete will it be? And how soon?

What are the plans for the bayou near Idylwood? Somewhere along the bayou (off wayside?), there's an old apartment compex that follows the contour of the bayou.  What at the plans for the bayou there? Could that turn into prime property?

Do you think those apartments on Fairview (?) leading into Simms Woods/Country Club Place will be destroyed and replaced, possibly with townhomes, any time soon? I think that would be a big boon to the area.

I like the curved streets of Forest Hill, but it looks ripe for teardowns and McMansions as some homes are modestly priced and have lots that are larger than average.

EDIT: I guess my post basically asks, "What's the Untapped Potential of the East End around Idylwood?"

With all the flooding in the Meyerland/BellaireMedical Center area, the Braes down on the eastside is supposed to be widened significantly. When they widened Sims Bayou, which was supposed to be of minimal impact, they had to tear down some beautiful homes in Bayou Oaks along Reed Rd. The Garden Villas side was basically unscathed. Quite frankly it has helped the flooding situation along Sims tremendously, however the bayou now is not aesthetically pleasing. They had a huge amount budgeted for landscaping, however it looks horrible. Just not enough to restore the bayou's natural beauty.

I just hope that the expansion IS only a minimal impact and not like Sims turned out. I think that Forest Park Cemetery will come out unscathed since they would have to move caskets, but the golf course and maybe the bayou side of idylwood will be impacted.

The bike/hike trails will come later....i believe the City is trying to connect MacGregor park and Mason Park in an upcoming project. I was riding the trail between Lawndale and Forest Hill a couple of weeks ago and was surprised to see a few tents/shanties in the woods next to the golf course. Guess that's everywhere though.

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How likely is this to happen? How complete will it be? And how soon?

Check out the Buffalo Bayou Master Plan website. Hike and bike trails and Tony Marron Park revamping on the East end are already underway, as well as some work in the Downtown area.

What are the plans for the bayou near Idylwood? Somewhere along the bayou (off wayside?), there's an old apartment compex that follows the contour of the bayou.  What at the plans for the bayou there? Could that turn into prime property?

Funny you should ask about those apts. I've driven by them many times and wondered when someone would realize the potential of that spot, just as I used to wonder when someone would realize the potential of the Buff Bayou on the East End a few years ago, and obviously I wasn't the only one. It's a gradual process and right now that particular area serves lower income people with Fiesta, pawn shops, dollar stores and check cashing shops as the typical retail selections. In time, the influx of higher end residents/developments could, and I think will, turn some of that Brays Bayou land into prime, high-density residential. As for the Brays Bayou changes in the works right now, check out Project Brays

Do you think those apartments on Fairview (?) leading into Simms Woods/Country Club Place will be destroyed and replaced, possibly with townhomes, any time soon? I think that would be a big boon to the area.

I think any currently low-end stuff that is in the path of higher-end residential demand will likely end up as townhomes as that is the current trend in housing.

I like the curved streets of Forest Hill, but it looks ripe for teardowns and McMansions as some homes are modestly priced and have lots that are larger than average.

As Marilu De La Fuente informed us, Forest Hill was originally planned as a River Oaks types neighborhood. And, as the setting is even potentially nicer than the actual River Oaks, it's destiny may end up being a wealthy enclave afterall, which of course would mean massive teardowns and McMansions.

EDIT: I guess my post basically asks, "What's the Untapped Potential of the East End around Idylwood?"

As for the other surrounding neighborhoods, all I know is that I would like to see the 30s-40s era homes, be they ever so humble, preserved. Front and back yards with driveways leading to detached garages in the back are on the Inner Loop endangered species list and it's just a shame to see entire neighborhoods wiped out and re-invented like so much of the Heights/Shady Acres/Rice Military.

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This has just been built at Lawndale & Wayside where there used to be a gas station. It's an improvement anyway. I like the "modern" look of Galvalume with brick and some color along with it. It looks like they tried to blend in somewhat with the brick duplexes fronting Lawndale and with Idylwood behind it.

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The developer was Andrew Kaldis, who has developed a number of properties (Panama Lofts in Galveston, Hugo's restaurant, the building Gravitas resides in, Villa Serena, etc.). I know he tried to work with the Civic Club to build something that adhered to the deed restrictions (masonry requirement stands out in my mind), and placement of the AC units to keep noise down.

Leasing the center has been slow, though, probably not helped by the long rebuilding of Wayside.

It's definitely an improvement over what was there. Now if someone would only rehab the building that the Dinner Bell is in!

http://www.kaldis.com/idylwood.html

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We used to call the Dinner Bell the "Dinner Belch" when I had a house in Idlywood in the 1980's. I still miss the neighborhood. I had some of the most wonderful neighbors there, in fact one who still lives there that is turning 100 years old this year. Back in the early 80's the AIA had an architectural tour in Idlywood. I still have a poster from it.

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We used to call the Dinner Bell the "Dinner Belch" when I had a house in Idlywood in the 1980's. I still miss the neighborhood. I had some of the most wonderful neighbors there, in fact one who still lives there that is turning 100 years old this year. Back in the early 80's the AIA had an architectural tour in Idlywood. I still have a poster from it.

Could you please take a picture of the poster and scan it in? If the quality is high enough, it would look great on Idylwood's website! They are always looking for old pictures to use.

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A U of H fraternity, Lambda Chi Alpha, for years rented a house right down the street from the Dinner Bell. It was a huge mansion with an expansive front lawn, a fireplace in the ballroom with wooden floors and a plate glass window on the front of the house that took up the entire wall. It was beautiful!

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My Dad used to eat at Dinner Bell with the Austin High football team in the early 60s.

I was good friends with the Palermo family. A number of them lived in Idlywood.

Their house was really cool, and made of stone.

MidtownCoog, long shot, but do you happen to recall what street the house was on? There are only a few stone houses in Idylwood, the nicest of which is owned by a couple friends of mine. It is a fantastic single-level stone house with a detached stone two-story garage (gameroom up) high up on a hill with views of Forrest Hill cemetary.

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A U of H fraternity, Lambda Chi Alpha, for years rented a house right down the street from the Dinner Bell. It was a huge mansion with an expansive front lawn, a fireplace in the ballroom with wooden floors and a plate glass window on the front of the house that took up the entire wall. It was beautiful!

Might that have been "Animal House"across the bayou in the Forest Hill neighborhood? Related HAIF topic here.

I hear the college boys semi-trashed the place and I heard second-hand that the current owner estimates $1,000,000 to completely restore it. :huh:esvujc.jpg

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Might that have been "Animal House"across the bayou in the Forest Hill neighborhood? Related HAIF topic here.

I hear the college boys semi-trashed the place and I heard second-hand that the current owner estimates $1,000,000 to completely restore it. :huh:

I went in it the last time it was listed for sale - this was a couple years ago.

It was definately not in good shape but it was - and could be again - an awesome house.

Unfortunately, after it had been listed for sale, someone came in and stole some of the stained glass panes out of the roof skylight (that had lasted through all of the fraternities and since it was built in 1911).

Too bad the Forest Hill neighborhood never made it to the standard of this house. The curvilinear plat was pretty unique (certainly for houston) in the 1910's.

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I am about to move in to Idylwood. By the end of the month McGregor will be my new home street and I am excited to be in that neighborhood ... I so much looked for a house there and I am glad! I love the area! I found it amazing that lots of people do not know about Idylwood!

Who else in this forum lives in Idylwood? I'd like to have new friends!

Let me know ...

Roberto

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Welcome to the Neighborhood (The East End) Robert.

You can find plenty of information on Idylwood by using the Search function within HAIF. Idylwood also belongs in the East End section not in Other Neighborhoods.

I don't live there but I live close by with my wife in Broadmoor. You will need to eat at The Dinner Bell, pretty good food, better then Luby's I think. Also a new Asian/Tapioca restaurant opened up at Lawndale and 75th. Great food and CHEAP. It's located right next door to Amegy Bank and a few doors down from Fiesta.

Scharpe St. Guy

I am about to move in to Idylwood. By the end of the month McGregor will be my new home street and I am excited to be in that neighborhood ... I so much looked for a house there and I am glad! I love the area! I found it amazing that lots of people do not know about Idylwood!

Who else in this forum lives in Idylwood? I'd like to have new friends!

Let me know ...

Roberto

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