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Another poster mentioned some details about this in the Pearland Retail Development thread. This article from the Pearland Journal provides additional details

http://www.hcnonline.com/site/news.cfm?new...32247&rfi=6

Seems that Metro and The Medical Center are working together on this and want to tap into the nearly 4000 Medical Center employees who live in Pearland.

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I hope some type of bus service starts up. We're contemplating moving down to Pearland within the next 1-2. I work in the Med Center, and would love to use public transportation if possible.

I'm wondering though . . . If the bus stops three times, and has to get off 288 each time, the whole trip from Pearland to the Med Center would take more time than a drive commute. Unless the buses themselves remove so much traffic from 288 that the overall traffic load is reduced.

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I hope some type of bus service starts up. We're contemplating moving down to Pearland within the next 1-2. I work in the Med Center, and would love to use public transportation if possible.

I'm wondering though . . . If the bus stops three times, and has to get off 288 each time, the whole trip from Pearland to the Med Center would take more time than a drive commute. Unless the buses themselves remove so much traffic from 288 that the overall traffic load is reduced.

Yep, without an HOV lane for the buses AND three stops, unfortunately, the bus will probably take longer to arrive at one's destination by 10-15 minutes. For every one person that takes the bus, 2 more are moving into SCR and areas further south that will use 288. This project, while a nice thought, will do very little to relieve 288 traffic unless further infrastructure modifications are made.

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Seems that Metro and The Medical Center are working together on this and want to tap into the nearly 4000 Medical Center employees who live in Pearland.

...and the councilmembers said they don't want to burden their constituents with another vote to pay for this according to the article.

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...and the councilmembers said they don't want to burden their constituents with another vote to pay for this according to the article.

Actually, they are more concerned that Pearland residents will be footing the bill for a service that folks from other area will benefit. One of the council members asked if metro could raise the price of the ticket to compensate for that. I am willing to bet that is what we will see in the end. Heck, the propsed cost is extremely low as compared to the price of a gallon of gas. I am not sure what parking costs in the Med Center, but I imagine that is also a cost savings worth considering in the price of a ride.

G

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Actually, they are more concerned that Pearland residents will be footing the bill for a service that folks from other area will benefit. One of the council members asked if metro could raise the price of the ticket to compensate for that. I am willing to bet that is what we will see in the end.

and just how are they able to determine who's from pearland and who's from friendswood, etc? when you're talking transportation matters, i just don't see how you can charge more for a service like this. that's like saying the harris county toll road people will charge brazoria residents more to use the toll road.

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pearland is growing so quickly that there is little to be done to alleviate the traffic nightmare is about to happen. To my knowledge there are no plans in the pipeline to fix this. The only solution that I can see happening quickly is building an HO lane from pearland with exits at BW8, 610, Med Center and 59. A better long range and two prong solution would to build the HOV and a light rail system out to pearland or a P&R relatively close to it so residents don't have to drive that far if they don't need to.

Pearland is going to get ugly before it gets better.

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Actually, they are more concerned that Pearland residents will be footing the bill for a service that folks from other area will benefit. One of the council members asked if metro could raise the price of the ticket to compensate for that. I am willing to bet that is what we will see in the end. Heck, the propsed cost is extremely low as compared to the price of a gallon of gas. I am not sure what parking costs in the Med Center, but I imagine that is also a cost savings worth considering in the price of a ride.

G

Hey Fishman, are you going to the council meeting tonight? The special meeting agenda indicates that they will give an update on current projects. Now does this mean all current projects in Pearland or just the projects that Pearland is working on? If you are going, please take good notes and post a summary for all to see.

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Another problem as it stands is the obstacle the buses face once they exit the freeway (or vice versa). It looks as if it will be a bigger problem in the evening than in the morning, but a problem at the least during both time periods, as traffic at FM 518 can be overwhelming, and the lot in question exists off the main road towards the back of the shopping complex.

Pearland is also technically out of METRO's sales tax district, so it's limited in how much it can invest in a full blown Pearland P&R that would be similar to one that you would see it Katy, Spring, Cypress or the Bay Area.

Pearland city council is very concerned about the financial impact on their community, especially now that it appears they are going to be investing quite heavily in road improvements to match population growth.

Edited by The Great Hizzy!

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I think part of the problem will be that pearland doesn't want to seem that they are getting themselves ready for annexation.

Again, a suburb wants the benefits of a city without paying for it.

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Pearland city council is very concerned about the financial impact on their community, especially now that it appears they are going to be investing quite heavily in road improvements to match population growth.

they should have been concerned in 2004 when the traffic on 518 heading towards 288 on a saturday evening was a sea of red lights.

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I think part of the problem will be that pearland doesn't want to seem that they are getting themselves ready for annexation.

Again, a suburb wants the benefits of a city without paying for it.

Perhaps I'm ignorant to the process but who's going to annex Pearland? It's a city, with a mayor and a city council. It's not like Kingwood or Clear Lake. Maybe I'm misunderstanding :) .

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Gee. You think?

they should have included those contingencies when they expanded 288.

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Of course nobody is going to annex Pearland, but nobody moves to Pearland for jobs. That's for sure.

I find it odd to see Pearland poor-mouth the topic. More people is more taxes, and we know they have a lot more people than they did back in the 80s.

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Of course nobody is going to annex Pearland, but nobody moves to Pearland for jobs. That's for sure.

My only question was one about the comment someone made about annexing. I was confused about that statement, not whether or not someone moves to Pearland for a job.

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My only question was one about the comment someone made about annexing. I was confused about that statement, not whether or not someone moves to Pearland for a job.

As far as I know, there are no office parks in the area, but there are a number of small oil related industries thrown in the area. It's getting to the point that the only employment in the area is mostly in a support roll for the population.

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No, we're not broke in Pearland, and neither are the citizens. Part of what you see playing out in these kinds of issues are the new vs the old. The west end of Pearland is new, the one time power brokers of Pearland mostly live in East Pearland. They and their supporters are having a hard time facing the rapidly changing demographics of the community. Large parts of the west end of Pearland are still within MUDs and not yet annexed so they are unable to vote in city elections. Since as of the last city council race it only took I think about 2,000 votes or less to get elected the old power guys have retained their seats on council, but as a good friend of mine who lives in Silverlake likes to say, things are going to change once we get the vote. Since any transit solution on 288 will be seen as benifitting only westenders the current city government is not in a hurry to alienate their base by charging them to pay for the improvements.

What this all boils down to is Pearland as a city is not very removed from its past. It was a small community with a few "rulers" and as the story goes if you wanted to be elected to city council or the school board for many years you had to seek the approval of a small group who essentially held the power. If they blessed you you usually won, if they didn't you usually lost. Until Pearland fully shakes that mentality it will be hard to get solid commitments towards some of the improvements people are seeking. Pearland has a big bond election coming for $162 million and in it they address some transportation issues like feeder roads on 288 but not a whole lot of other help for the west side.

While I support the improvement of transportation options on the west end I must admit that I live on the east end closer to 45 than 288. I have lived there for 14 years and have been waiting on the widening and improvement of Dixie Farm Road from Beamer to 35 and they just started that in October of 2006. They also announced that it will only go to 518 and that the piece from 518 to 35 is part of the bond election. In otherwords its taken 14 years to do something they assured me was going to happen soon after I moved to Pearland so don't hold your breath waiting on improvements to the west side. Of course the west end does have the tax base and the shine of the newness so they may get the money, while I wait another 14 years before they break ground for Dixie Farm Road from 518 to 35 to happen.

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Dixie/518/Broadway, etc. will always be the real Pearland to me. I grew up in the Friendswood/Pearland/Southbelt area.

It was a huge deal when they finally busted Scarsdale into Green Tee.

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Hey Fishman, are you going to the council meeting tonight? The special meeting agenda indicates that they will give an update on current projects. Now does this mean all current projects in Pearland or just the projects that Pearland is working on? If you are going, please take good notes and post a summary for all to see.

Yes, I plan on being there tonight and will be happy to post anything of interest. Heck, I am even beating the local papers nowadays. LOL The project update workshop is a regular monthly agenda item and they are very thourough (I just cannot seem to spell this word) on the projects, new and old. They are great sources of information and I highly recommend attending them if you live in the Pearland area. I must disclose, though, that my interest lies in the HWY 288 (mostly) and the hwy 35 Corridors; because I own property off both, and if they are not talking on those subjects I usually do not stick around very long.

G

and just how are they able to determine who's from pearland and who's from friendswood, etc? when you're talking transportation matters, i just don't see how you can charge more for a service like this. that's like saying the harris county toll road people will charge brazoria residents more to use the toll road.

I don't think price descimination will be the answer. My best guess is that everyone on that line will pay the same.

G

I think part of the problem will be that pearland doesn't want to seem that they are getting themselves ready for annexation.

Again, a suburb wants the benefits of a city without paying for it.

A city cannot annex a city. If you have watched Pearland grow over the last 10 to 15 years, you will see that they finger annexed over the years to reach the desired borders and have been filling in the gaps ever since.

G

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No, we're not broke in Pearland, and neither are the citizens. Part of what you see playing out in these kinds of issues are the new vs the old. The west end of Pearland is new, the one time power brokers of Pearland mostly live in East Pearland. They and their supporters are having a hard time facing the rapidly changing demographics of the community. Large parts of the west end of Pearland are still within MUDs and not yet annexed so they are unable to vote in city elections. Since as of the last city council race it only took I think about 2,000 votes or less to get elected the old power guys have retained their seats on council, but as a good friend of mine who lives in Silverlake likes to say, things are going to change once we get the vote. Since any transit solution on 288 will be seen as benifitting only westenders the current city government is not in a hurry to alienate their base by charging them to pay for the improvements.

What this all boils down to is Pearland as a city is not very removed from its past. It was a small community with a few "rulers" and as the story goes if you wanted to be elected to city council or the school board for many years you had to seek the approval of a small group who essentially held the power. If they blessed you you usually won, if they didn't you usually lost. Until Pearland fully shakes that mentality it will be hard to get solid commitments towards some of the improvements people are seeking. Pearland has a big bond election coming for $162 million and in it they address some transportation issues like feeder roads on 288 but not a whole lot of other help for the west side.

While I support the improvement of transportation options on the west end I must admit that I live on the east end closer to 45 than 288. I have lived there for 14 years and have been waiting on the widening and improvement of Dixie Farm Road from Beamer to 35 and they just started that in October of 2006. They also announced that it will only go to 518 and that the piece from 518 to 35 is part of the bond election. In otherwords its taken 14 years to do something they assured me was going to happen soon after I moved to Pearland so don't hold your breath waiting on improvements to the west side. Of course the west end does have the tax base and the shine of the newness so they may get the money, while I wait another 14 years before they break ground for Dixie Farm Road from 518 to 35 to happen.

Total in agreement on your comments. In fact, the next election holds two candidates for council. Kevin Cole and Woody Owens and they are unopposed. I personally hope it stays that way because they are both good for the city, even though Kevin is strongly against extending Business Center Dr across my property.

G

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Dixie/518/Broadway, etc. will always be the real Pearland to me. I grew up in the Friendswood/Pearland/Southbelt area.

It was a huge deal when they finally busted Scarsdale into Green Tee.

I agree I believe that is the true heart of Pearland.

The way it's expanding I find interesting, if they dont' do something to help alleviate their current crop of problems, they will find the city slowly dying as people will no longer wish to endure the horrible traffic jams that's due in the area in the near future.

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Total in agreement on your comments. In fact, the next election holds two candidates for council. Kevin Cole and Woody Owens and they are unopposed. I personally hope it stays that way because they are both good for the city, even though Kevin is strongly against extending Business Center Dr across my property.

G

Fishman,

Did you happen to make the Council meeting yesterday? If so, any good updates?

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I don't think price descimination will be the answer. My best guess is that everyone on that line will pay the same.

G

i agree, price discrimination is not the answer.

i was just reponding to your comment where you thought that was the solution.

"Actually, they are more concerned that Pearland residents will be footing the bill for a service that folks from other area will benefit. One of the council members asked if metro could raise the price of the ticket to compensate for that. I am willing to bet that is what we will see in the end. "

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i agree, price discrimination is not the answer.

i was just reponding to your comment where you thought that was the solution.

"Actually, they are more concerned that Pearland residents will be footing the bill for a service that folks from other area will benefit. One of the council members asked if metro could raise the price of the ticket to compensate for that. I am willing to bet that is what we will see in the end. "

Actually, I was stating what one of the council members said and that I agreed in that will probably be what happens. Years back there was a proposal brought to the Houston City Council that wanted to charge non-Houston residents who worked in Houston $1:00 per day(I believe this wat the number) surcharge for the opportunity to work there and live somewhere else. As I remember, another motivator of this idea was to help cover the costs of money leaving the city everyday (the inversed money multiplier), and the ammenities folks used and were not being taxed on as those in the city. I believe the costs were made up in other areas like parking rate increases, hotel taxes, cab fare fees, etc.

Usually contingency money is set aside for project over runs. My hopes would be that we are not having that many over runs and that the city can be find the needed dollars rather than pass costs on.

G

Fishman,

Did you happen to make the Council meeting yesterday? If so, any good updates?

Yes I did. Just normal business last night and everything that was voted on passed.

For the eastenders, Dixie farm road will close for the weekend of March 31 for a planned installation of conduit and Yost road will open. Yost will be one of the dtour routes.

G

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Another poster mentioned some details about this in the Pearland Retail Development thread. This article from the Pearland Journal provides additional details

http://www.hcnonline.com/site/news.cfm?new...32247&rfi=6

Seems that Metro and The Medical Center are working together on this and want to tap into the nearly 4000 Medical Center employees who live in Pearland.

This weeks worksho agenda item

http://cityofpearland.com/vertical/Sites/{...144191E1F8}.PDF

I will be out of town at a conference. My apologies in advance for not being able to provide an after meeting report.

G

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any more spies in the area we can rely on? Surely we can't rely on only a "McKee" for reports. :)

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any more spies in the area we can rely on? Surely we can't rely on only a "McKee" for reports. :)

I have a friend at work that said he may be able to attend. I also called the city and they said I can buy a the taped session for $1.00 when it comes available. I am not sure how long that will take.

G

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Isn't there a small Park & Ride at 288 and 518? I know they have some more of those further down the corridor near West Columbia, but what purpose do they serve w/o bus service?

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I have a friend at work that said he may be able to attend. I also called the city and they said I can buy a the taped session for $1.00 when it comes available. I am not sure how long that will take.

G

Yes there is one there. The only real purpose I see for it is for car and vanpooling. You often see several of the vans in the outer portion of the Target parking lot.

Brian

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Yes there is one there. The only real purpose I see for it is for car and vanpooling. You often see several of the vans in the outer portion of the Target parking lot.

Brian

That is the temporary place until the main facility gets approved/built. From what I interpreted from the presentation they showed the city of pearland, it seemed to have a bus and train terminal. Light rail has also been talked about in the area.

Other developments in the area...Monday, April 2, 2007. Trophy Investments is scheduled to have a joint public hearing to discuss and/or have approved a zoning change to PD from BP-288 for their upcoming project called South Gate Crossing. Letters have been sent to property owners to send their comments and two that I know of are in favor (One was mine). This project and along with the CBL mall, and Metro, will have this area smoking for the next two years.

G

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That is the temporary place until the main facility gets approved/built.

Its not a temporary place, its been there almost since 288 was built, they have another one in Angleton, and it you head far enough out of Houston on any non interstate you will see these type lots. (35, 59, 90, and others) TxDOT put those things in years ago for people who were carpooling from an area to use. Metro and the current plans had nothing to do with the placement of those lots.

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That is the temporary place until the main facility gets approved/built.

Its not a temporary place, its been there almost since 288 was built, they have another one in Angleton, and it you head far enough out of Houston on any non interstate you will see these type lots. (35, 59, 90, and others) TxDOT put those things in years ago for people who were carpooling from an area to use. Metro and the current plans had nothing to do with the placement of those lots.

I think he's referring to the parking lot in Target. That surely hasnt been there since 288 was built. :)

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I think he's referring to the parking lot in Target. That surely hasnt been there since 288 was built. :)

Metro will be submitting another proposal to City Council Monday night for their development. I will post followup information Tuesday morning.

G

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Does anybody have any updated info on this issue? Is Metro actually going to start operating a bus service from Pearland to the med center, and if so, when?

Thanks!

My wife are I love the houses and neighborhoods, especially SilverLake, but I'm dreading my commute into the medical center.

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Does anybody have any updated info on this issue? Is Metro actually going to start operating a bus service from Pearland to the med center, and if so, when?

Thanks!

My wife are I love the houses and neighborhoods, especially SilverLake, but I'm dreading my commute into the medical center.

I know several people in Pearland that work in the Med Center. They leave about 6:00 and are at work between 6:20 and 6:30. Obviously working later will take more time as rush hour traffic builds. Not a bad commute as far as suburbs go.

While 288 has its share of traffic, it doesn't compare to some other Houston area freeways.

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It's actually a very reasonable drive from West Pearland to the med center. . . outside of the rush hour. I think if you get on the road before 6:45 you should be okay and either leave work before 4:45 or after 6:30. Traffic is relatively light now, so don't let it fool you.

I live in SCR and take 521 all the way into the mid-town area (west of downtown) and it usually takes about 35-45 minutes during peak time. I think I make it to the med center in about 25-35 minutes.

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Will they be adding in an HOV lane in each direction once METRO comes in?

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Will they be adding in an HOV lane in each direction once METRO comes in?

I believe that they're going to have to wait for TXDOT to pull the trigger on a rebuild of 288, at which point they get managed lanes like there will be on the Katy Freeway.

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I believe that they're going to have to wait for TXDOT to pull the trigger on a rebuild of 288, at which point they get managed lanes like there will be on the Katy Freeway.

what i didn't understand was why they planted trees in the median of 288 esp when the empty space in the middle was for some high occupancy transit.

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what i didn't understand was why they planted trees in the median of 288 esp when the empty space in the middle was for some high occupancy transit.

No kidding. Surely the intensity of landscaping right there could've been turned into less intense landscaping along freeways throughout the Houston area that are less prone to be rebuilt in the near future.

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Update: TXDoT Responds to Landscaping Question - Mixed News for Pearland...

Landscaping issue

Former Chronicle transportation reporter Dan Feldstein asked why TxDOT has done so much landscaping and planting in the median of Texas 288, since the space soon will be needed to carry traffic from the fast-growing Pearland area. A small forest is growing in the median, from near downtown to the Texas Medical Center. And it is true that TxDOT may build two new lanes in each direction there, probably for high-occupancy vehicles and toll customers.

TxDOT forester Dana Cote said the usual policy is not to landscape a median where reconstruction is expected within the next 10 years. He said that was the case on Texas 288, also called the South Freeway, when the landscaping began three years ago as a shared project between the department and Trees for Houston.

But Pearland and surrounding areas "exploded, and the demand on the roadway has become much greater than expected," he said.

"We will leave the trees in place for as long as possible," Cote said. "In this case we anticipate five or, maybe, six years." Then, if feasible, he said, TxDOT will transplant them to a nearby site.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metrop...it/5029045.html

Edited by njvisitor

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Update on Pearland Park & Ride

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/pea...ws/5036890.html

Pearland city officials are counting on a study by the Houston-Galveston Area Council to turn the idea of a Park & Ride in the city to reality.

Assistant City Manager Nick Finan said the study will look at a number of factors, including the location, cost, the parties that should be involved and the funding sources that could help get a Park & Ride off the ground.

No timetable has been set for completing the study, Finan said.

"It's a complicated issue," City Manager Bill Eisen said. "There are a lot of funding sources out there, and until we know more about them, it's hard to say if it's a definite thing that can happen or not."

This spring, Pearland officials received separate proposals from the Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County and a Texas-based consulting firm about starting a Park & Ride along Texas 288.

Metro's proposal initially would provide 400 parking spaces at Cinemark Cinema on Texas 288 south of FM 518 until a permanent parking structure is built, Eisen said.

The city would pay $500,000 a year for the temporary parking until a three-story parking structure is built that would accommodate 1,500 to 2,000 vehicles. After the structure is complete, the city would contribute $1.6 million a year under the plan.

The Goodman Corporation, a transportation and urban-planning firm, presented a short-term proposal that would provide 250 parking spaces at a to-be-determined existing site, Eisen said.

The corporation's long-term plan calls for construction of a permanent parking facility with 600 parking spaces.

After holding several workshop meetings on the issue, Pearland officials decided to take a step back to explore all the options.

"The Metro proposal would require a significant commitment of the city," City Councilwoman Felicia Kyle said. "It seems to be a financially challenged project."

Kyle said City Council needs feedback from Pearland residents "about what they would like to see or not to see."

City Councilman Kevin Cole also has concerns about the cost to the city of setting up and maintaining a Park & Ride.

Finan said the H-GAC study also would gauge how a Park & Ride in Pearland would fit into a "future holistic transportation system for the city."

"We wouldn't put it in a location that wouldn't benefit us in the future," he said.

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That's certaintly good news...

But I'm not sure why they're doubtful of its potential benefit.

The primary complaint I hear about Pearland is that "288 is a parking lot during rush hour". A metro-solution would not only solve that crisis significantly, but it'd also attract ALOT of residents simply by offering an alternate mode of transportation.

Contact City Council and tell them you WANT METRO!

E-Mail: council@ci.pearland.tx.us

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That's certaintly good news...

But I'm not sure why they're doubtful of its potential benefit.

sounds like your councilmembers are worried about cost more than benefit. saying it is "financially challenged" isn't good news.

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As George mentioned upthread, Pearland didn't want to be solely responsible for paying for a facility that residents of surrounding cities would take advantage of. I think they were looking for alternatives. Maybe shared funding?

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Any updates on this? Will there be a Metro bus line between Pearland and the med center? If so, when? If not, what other alternatives are under consideration? Thanks.

As George mentioned upthread, Pearland didn't want to be solely responsible for paying for a facility that residents of surrounding cities would take advantage of. I think they were looking for alternatives. Maybe shared funding?

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UPDATE:

Lampson, a senior member of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, has requested $1.5 million for a Pearland Park & Ride facility as part of the House transportation budget.

If Lampson's efforts are successful, the $1.5 million would likely go towards building a permanent Park & Ride facility in the Texas 288 area, according to Pearland City Manager Bill Eisen.

http://blogs.chron.com/pearland/2008/04/pa...n_pearland.html

This is terrific news. Gathering the money was proving to be the most difficult part, so this fund allocation should put the project on the front-burners...

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While certainly in favor of public transportation and a rider myself via the Fuqua Park and Ride into downtown I only have one question \concern. A park and ride lot on 288 would still have to travel the main lanes without the benifit of an HOV lane, at least in the interum until such time as 288 is significantly rebuilt wouldn't it? And if so would that not greatly effect ridership in a negative way? While saving gas is great on the Park and Ride I think the real benifit is the times saving of the HOV. Spending this amount of money and making those long term commitments that the city would have to make I think it might be in their best interest to wait until the rebuild of 288 was well on its way. Otherwise ridership could be severlly lacking.

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