Guest danax Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 From their website:Coyote Ugly Saloon, the most famous bar in the world... While it sounds like the Denny's of urban drinking joints, chain retail can add a certain stability to DT which could help the overall mix. It's a sign that the raw, experimental stage of DT retail is slowly coming to a close and, just like in gentrifying residential areas, a lot of the oddball color will turn beige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 my main problem with some of the places is that it's TOO touristy. We need something with a little local flavor. maybe a downhome Ninfas? I think they need a place downtown.the sons opened one up (maybe el tiempo)....and charged ridiculously high prices and it closed.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolMan Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 There was a Ninfa's on street level at the Allen Center a few years ago and it was overpriced. It is now Don Patron's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 There was a Ninfa's on street level at the Allen Center a few years ago and it was overpriced. It is now Don Patron's.on street level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houstonian in Iraq Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 on street level?I could of swore there was one in the tunnels in the Allen center general area.Was there one in Houston Center(not sure if it was just a smaller express version)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I could of swore there was one in the tunnels in the Allen center general area.Was there one in Houston Center(not sure if it was just a smaller express version)?It is in The Shops at Houston Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 i believe there were three downtown at its peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I think there is still one in Chase Tower as well, at least there was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapee Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Whew! Glad to see what this topic is really about. For a minute there I was afraid it was about me and my friends back when we waited tables in the nightclubs on Market Square in the 70's-80's. With pictures of us sitting on the curb while the sun came up. It's a wonder we have any brain cells left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 i heard that Ugly's is opening downtown !!! my guess would be between the 200-400 block of Main Street or so... does anyone know where they leased space ? ps- i am glad that this particular national operator had enough sense to select downtown . Clearly they have good direction in selecting a location, as opposed to some other groups....(shhhhh !!!!) is it going in where Suede was on Main. it looks like there is construction going on in the space at this time...i heard this space was recently acquired ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bach Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 s it going in where Suede was on Main. it looks like there is construction going on in the space at this time...i heard this space was recently acquired ?Suede hasn't been replaced, and the building continues to be owned by Stowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 s it going in where Suede was on Main. it looks like there is construction going on in the space at this time...i heard this space was recently acquired ?Suede hasn't been replaced, and the building continues to be owned by Stowers.ok. but i heard the space was leased by someone else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I think there is still one in Chase Tower as well, at least there was...We used to eat at that one (Ninfa's)only in desperation for lack of any other Mex restaraunts nearby our building (Pennzoil Tower). It was a good thing it closed. It was like eating a child's TV dinner. It would take 3 plates to satisfy any hunger. Airline food topped that joint.As far as this Coyote whatever... trendy, trendy, trendy. Flash in the pan. Here today gone tomorrow! Come on Midtown Coog...(bullhorn) all together gang...Houston Be Yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Don Patron's is OK. We were there last week. Before Ninfa's it was Fat Erenies or something like that. But it's EXPENSIVE.$14.00 for the fajita nachos. Even the daily speicals are $12.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 It IS expensive. I've not had lunch there in close to year but lunch set me back (by myself) over $20.00 when you include the drink, appetizers, tax and tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 It IS expensive. I've not had lunch there in close to year but lunch set me back (by myself) over $20.00 when you include the drink, appetizers, tax and tip.did you actually have to pay for it out of your pocket ?? what happened to the topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Coyote Uglys?Bad idea jeans. That's all I gotta say. PRINT IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 my main problem with some of the places is that it's TOO touristy. We need something with a little local flavor. maybe a downhome Ninfas? I think they need a place downtown.Yes, they are, but they are supposed to be. Downtown could stand to live a little, and be able to have a place to go for those tourists who might want to do something else other than sit in their hotel room because there is nothing else to do. I can't imagine that they would sit and navigate the downtown site to figure out what to do, as those people have downtown houston broken up into more areas than New York. i think they have 10 different areas in 1 downtown ? it's amazing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Ive said it before and Ill say it again. The best places are the street taco truck vendors. Ninfa's got nothing over the trucks. Brings back memories of walking across the border to Reynosa Mexico and hitting up some of those taco stands. Cheap, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Ive said it before and Ill say it again. The best places are the street taco truck vendors. Ninfa's got nothing over the trucks. Brings back memories of walking across the border to Reynosa Mexico and hitting up some of those taco stands. Cheap, too.you should try the laredo taco company...located in some chevrons. i know there's one at s wayside and 610 and one at bellfort/howard and 45. i was introduced to these last yr and wow was i surprised. homemade tortillas and the standard fillings for 99. i think egg/sausage is 1.49. i'm not sure where else they are located but it is definitely worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Ive said it before and Ill say it again. The best places are the street taco truck vendors. Ninfa's got nothing over the trucks. Brings back memories of walking across the border to Reynosa Mexico and hitting up some of those taco stands. Cheap, too.you should try the laredo taco company...located in some chevrons. i know there's one at s wayside and 610 and one at bellfort/howard and 45. i was introduced to these last yr and wow was i surprised. homemade tortillas and the standard fillings for 99. i think egg/sausage is 1.49. i'm not sure where else they are located but it is definitely worth a try.2112 is right, sometimes the best quality food is out of the trucks. In some parts of town, it's busy enough where a cart would be an excellent idea. I noticed one outside of two of the court houses downtown and they seem to do quite a bit of business. I get a bottle of water from one when I have the urge too from time to time. Back on topic:C-Uglies is a poor concept for a city like ours. They'll be lame in a couple of years. Maybe they might be better off locating it in the Village or Uptown where there is more of a tourist crowd. (I know i'm going to get slammed for that statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanluv2 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Agreed in that what I know of Coyote Ugly (from the movie, an episode or two of a related reality TV show, and a brief visit to the N.O. location) is that it's primarily known for its bartenders dancing on the bar. The reality TV show - I want to say it was focused on the opening of the Austin location - showed girls at try-outs for waitress positions and then training to do the dances. Just some context for those who hadn't heard of the chain before.You might want to add female patrons taking off their bras too. Not that it will happen here if the bar opened in Downtown, but anything can happen with lots of alcohol. Then you will see complaints, then HPD doing vice visits, and then trouble starts. I can see it already. I love the idea of this bar coming though. Would love to visit before it gets shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 You might want to add female patrons taking off their bras too. Didn't this battle get fought in the 70s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 You might want to add female patrons taking off their bras too. Not that it will happen here if the bar opened in Downtown, but anything can happen with lots of alcohol. Then you will see complaints, then HPD doing vice visits, and then trouble starts. I can see it already. I love the idea of this bar coming though. Would love to visit before it gets shut down.It seems that the locals are so fickle in this town anyway that downtown would probably do better overall in the long run positioning itself heavier for tourists anyway. We know that locals will always have a problem with any given area, and at least this way people visiting will have something to do whether it's during the slower days of the week or on weekends. I hate to break anyones heart but Coyote's and Pavilions types are probably more interested in appealing to the tourists/conventioneers that come to George Brown, Minute Maid, and Toyota Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanluv2 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 It seems that the locals are so fickle in this town anyway that downtown would probably do better overall in the long run positioning itself heavier for tourists anyway. We know that locals will always have a problem with any given area, and at least this way people visiting will have something to do whether it's during the slower days of the week or on weekends. I hate to break anyones heart but Coyote's and Pavilions types are probably more interested in appealing to the tourists/conventioneers that come to George Brown, Minute Maid, and Toyota Center.I agree, Houston should position itself for tourists. That strategy will make Downtown boom like it did in 99'. I think a Coyote Ugly type bar would never survive in this town . There will some local group looking to shut it down. I'm sure it would be a really fun place to be if it did open, even if it is a short-lived bar. If a bar like this catered to more tourists/conventioneers, then its doors would close even faster. Tourists/Out-towners tend to be more adventurous, thus more lewdness, wild stuff going on. This will lead to trouble, etc. Houston is just way too conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanluv2 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Does anyone think that if downtown positions itself to attract more out of towners, that there will be some conflict with downtown residents? I'm sure downtown residents enjoy the nightlife and bars there,but i would think many would not like the idea of their 'suburb' sort of speak being frequented/runned by tourists. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I agree, Houston should position itself for tourists. That strategy will make Downtown boom like it did in 99'. I think a Coyote Ugly type bar would never survive in this town . There will some local group looking to shut it down. I'm sure it would be a really fun place to be if it did open, even if it is a short-lived bar. If a bar like this catered to more tourists/conventioneers, then its doors would close even faster. Tourists/Out-towners tend to be more adventurous, thus more lewdness, wild stuff going on. This will lead to trouble, etc. Houston is just way too conservative.positioning itself for tourists is probably not the best strategy because for a biz to be successful, you need as much traffic as possible all the time, not just during conventions etc. as for the coyote ugly concept, seems kind of lame from someone who does support downtown businesses.btw may i ask your age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 Does anyone think that if downtown positions itself to attract more out of towners, that there will be some conflict with downtown residents? I'm sure downtown residents enjoy the nightlife and bars there,but i would think many would not like the idea of their 'suburb' sort of speak being frequented/runned by tourists. Just curious.interesting comment. i think there is enough room for both groups (local/tourists) to be happy. it's my impression that basically all the focus is on the out of towners already. We don't hear anything about downtown as a direct result of any orgs downtown its for the most part dependant upon self-promotion. it appears that downtowns focus is primarily on gaining business for George Brown via conventions and capturing business from new orleans. they seem aligned with pavilions which is great, but what about the rest of downtown and reaching out on a local level. ...at least it seems there is an effort to do this, but it seems rather self serving for the city in my opinion. it doesn't really serve downtown as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolMan Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I'm not a big proponent of Coyote Ugly, but I think it would be nice to have at least some kind of variation downtown. It all can't be just local bars and restaraunts. You do need something for the out of towners, tourist, and young crowd. I'm not saying it has to be like Austins 6th St., but maybe more like 4th St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I'm not a big proponent of Coyote Ugly, but I think it would be nice to have at least some kind of variation downtown. It all can't be just local bars and restaraunts. You do need something for the out of towners, tourist, and young crowd. so the out of towners, tourists, and young crowd don't eat or drink? what do you have against local establishments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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