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  1. I went to the first four opening games in 1965. What a sight when I first walked in. It actually seemed, at the time, like the "Eighth Wonder of the World". Saw Muhammed Ali clobber Cleveland Williams in a media-hyped, championship bout that turned out to be a laugher. Saw UH play Ole Miss. when Archie Manning was the Miss. QB. Don't remember who won. Also went to the bullfights. At the time, I thought the Astrodome would last forever. Appears that I might outlive it.

  2. AIRLINES-- National, Eastern, Muse, Braniff, TWA, TTA ( Trans Texas or aka Tree Top Airlines) they had a horrible crash near Centerville, if I remember, in the late 50s or early 60s. A classmate's father was killed in that crash.

    You have the time and place correct, but I believe the plane was a Braniff Lockheed Electra. There were several crashes involving the Electra. There was talk of the wings falling off. I believe they did determine that there was severe vibration that was too extreme for the short, straight wings on that aircraft and may have contributed to a structural failure. I had the pleasure of making my first commercial flight from Houston to Dallas on an Electra in that time-frame. White knuckles all the way.

  3. Does anyone remember Hebert's Steakhouse near downtown? It was a restaurant in an old, 2-story frame house with the best steaks and shrimp cocktail with their signature (and killer!) remoulade sauce. Their neon sign had a bear on it and it read "A Bear's" so people would know how to pronounce their name. I went on many a date there, including with my husband. As I recall, the restaurant burned down in the 80's (?) and was never rebuilt.

    Just for you, marketingwiz....

    Excerpts from an '80's menu...



    There is more on Hebert's near the beginning of this thread where I posted a 1941 menu.

  4. You know? I really miss those old drive-ins. They were a part of a culture that's disappeared from our landscape, and I think we are less for their passing. We went there to sit around on the hoods of our cars with our friends, and, hopefully, hook up with some new friends. It was a social atmosphere impossible to describe to today's generation. Today's drive-ins can't even begin to compare with them.

    Filio... You are so right! In the 50's, when we were without a date, we guys would hop in one of our cars and cruise Main from downtown to Stuart's several times. There was always the impromtu drag race from one light to the other, and occasionally running into some cruisin' gals without dates. After two or three trips up and down Main, we would retire to Stuart's, where we would hang out on the back row and socialize. There was always someone from out of the area who had heard of somebody at Stuart's having a hot car and would come over to issue a challenge. The competitors would then head out S. Main, past the railroad track underpass to around Hiram Clarke and do their 1/4 mile drag race, and then come back to Stuart's to explain why they won or lost. Many times, girls from the Galena Park, South Houston, Pasadena area would come out to the S. Main Stuart's to "socialize". Best, and just about the only good social times were on Friday or Saturday nights.

    The Bill Williams Restaurant on S. Main had a good drive-in, and it was the place to take a date after a movie. Seldom was anybody seen at Bill's without a date. Prince's, across from Stuart's, saw mostly couples and not very many singles.... kind of like Bill Williams, but further out Main.

    Those were the days, and I still miss them. I was fortunate to be part of it. Hard to explain the experience to today's generation.

    American Graffitti, as Vertigo mentioned, came pretty close to a good portrayal of that era, but it took place a little later... in the early 60's, I think.

  5. The information in my previous post that I quoted from my book, The History of the Texas League, was obviously incorrect. It said that the photo was from about 1890, but also stated that the scoreboard in that photo was provided by the Houston Chronicle. The Chronicle didn't come into being until 1901, so their date was incorrect. The book mentioned that Buffalo Stadium was contructed in 1928 on an 18 acre tract on St. Bernard Street (now Cullen Blvd) beside the interurban tracks. Previously the Buffs had played at an unfenced park and, later, at centrally located West End Stadium which seated just 4,000. Buffalo Stadium would seat 14,000 and land and contruction costs totaled $400,000.

    I got out an old tape of mine on Baseball in Houston and uploaded a video with some more info and pictures of the old West End Stadium and Buff Stadium. It is in two parts bcause of file size uploading restrictions.

    Part 1

    Part 2

  6. What is somewhat saddening is these old schools may have existed at one time and were later demolished. The fact that they were name in honor of someone that must have been a contributor to society is forever forgotten or maybe not. As is the case with these you mention. I personally have never heard of these folks.

    They must have done something good to deserve to have schools named after them? -_-:)

    See post #17 in this link for info on Albert Sidney Johnston.

  7. Hey, what am I, chopped liver??? As some of you have gleaned, I was born in old Methodist Hospital, downtown, long gone, in 1941.
    West U Native, I was born in the old Methodist Hospital, too - but in 1938!

    WestU and Silver... Help me out here. Part of my very young childhood in the early-mid 40's was spent in a house on Elgin. We lived not far from what I think was the old Methodist Hospital, which you say was "downtown". I remember a hospital that was located just a few blocks from us on Anita or Tuam and between Fannin and San Jacinto, I think. Was that the old Methodist Hospital? I used to help an older friend deliver newspapers to the patients in their rooms there.

  8. Some time back, in a discussion of the old red light district, someone was kind enough to post a very old map of downtown Houston that showed the location of that old baseball field. I recall that it was just east of Heiner, on the other side of the Pierce Elevated, where it does that big long dog leg curve around that Hotel. My best calculation, looking at that old map, is that the ground where those old teams once played baseball is now covered by that hotel and the Leland Federal Bldg.

    I think this might be the map (1913) to which Filio referred. I've cropped to the area of the ball park. The picture that gonzo posted is in my History of the Texas League book and is dated 1890.


  9. I have a Key Map from the mid 90's that has locations for some of the closed and or torn down schools. Anyone have any pics of Fanin Elem must have close to were the Walgreeen's is on McGowan.

    I attended Fannin in the early 40's (Wow! Am I that old?). Fannin was bounded by Louisiana, Smith, Tuam, and Anita. The attachments below show it... as it originally was; a view of the present building (sq. recess in the roof) in the middle of the Google picture; and an old class picture of mine taken in back of the school facing the corner of Smith and Tuam. I wonder if those trees behind us are the same ones that show up in the Google picture.




  10. i may be getting this mixed up.... but i thought South Main was a JUNIOR high and it eventually became San Jacinto HIGH school in the 20's....at the current HCC bldg...1300 Holman

    San Jacinto High School evolved from the South End Junior High building which opened in 1914. The picture below is the architect's original drawing of the South End Jr High School.


  11. But they're going to restore the building and try to attract upscale retail and restaurants, right?

    Old Joske's building sold, downtown Dillard's to close

    Web Posted: 06/05/2008 01:53 PM CDT

    By Express-News Staff

    New York-based Ashkenazy Acquisition Corp., the owner of Rivercenter Mall since 2005, said today that it has purchased the historic Joske's building from Dillard's Inc. and plans to revitalize the landmark property.

    Ashkenazy will begin redevelopment work this summer that includes converting the 500,000-square-foot building into a high-end restaurant called Fogo de Chao and adding new retail to the property.

    "Negotiations between Dillard

  12. "'K's"? Is that Kay's on Bissonett? Or some other water hole I need to check out? Kay's has been watering and feeding Rice University students and local media types for many many years.

    Kay's brings back many memories. This ad from 1954-55. Is it still there?


  13. Here is a 1960 shot of that area. You can see, what I believe are, the remains of Domain Privee toward the lower left corner. In the extreme lower left, and barely visible, would be part of the parking area of the old South Main Drive-In theater. Just above that is Brochsteins, which I remember being there then, and still appears to be in this recent Google shot. That would be the Old Main Street Loop running diagonal just below the DP remains. The north-south road running into South Main/Hwy90 is Hiram Clarke.


  14. Looks like a telescope observatory dome at the rear. If so, that's quite a structure for a high school. Here are a few more bits of info about the building...

    On the high school level, the school changed, rather than the location, for many years. From 1856-1881, the school was named the Houston Academy; from 1881-1886, Clopper Institute; 1886-1902, Houston Normal and High School; 1902-1914, Houston High School; 1914-1926, Central High School; and 1926-1952, Sam Houston High School. On March 18, 1919, when the school was Central High, the building was destroyed by fire. Besides this necessary rebuilding, it was enlarged and modernized as the needs arose over the years. The long-time location was 1300 Capitol and Caroline. Following the 1952 school year, the building was remodeled as temporary offices for the administration of the Houston Independent School District.

  15. it was an elementary school. i had a cousin who was there in the 70's

    EDIT: looks like it was K-8 and closed in May '80 according to this.

    If that's the school on Shepherd, just north of St. Thomas, it was only a Jr. High (Gr 7-9), when I was at Lanier and played basketball against them in the late 40's.

  16. SweeneyJewelers1.jpg

    I noticed this ad recently in an old yearbook. I was curious if Sweeney's was still in business, so I did a little research and found that they are, but under the name of Sweeney & Co Jewelers. While looking, I also found some other interesting tidbits surrounding Sweeney's...

    They were originally housed here, when they first went into business.

    It appears they occupied several locations downtown before settling into their final location in that area as noted on the ad above.

    A picture of that location in 1929 is shown in this publication by Story Sloane of Sloane Gallery...


    I'm not sure, but I think they vacated there in the mid-50's.

    Here is something else I came across... This old clock was built in 1908 and placed in front of the J. J. Sweeney Jewelry store where they were located then at 409 Main Street. It remained in front of the store from 1908-1928, where it was also used as a hitching post for horse drawn carriages.

    Donated by the store to the City of Houston in 1929, the clock was moved to the downtown Farmer's Market and later to the courtyard of a municipal building near the Jefferson Davis Hospital.

    By 1968 the clock had deteriorated badly. It was restored and moved to its present location, the Sweeney triangle in 1971 with funds provided by the Colonial Dames of America. A base for the 15-foot timepiece was made using paving bricks from historic Navigation Street."


    Present location in the park bounded by Capitol, Rusk and Bagby.


    I think most, if not all the jewelry stores in early Houston, were family owned/operated and gradually succumbed to the larger wholesale jewelry operations. Some that I remember from the 50's, besides Sweeney's, were Corrigan's, Lechenger's, and Gordon's.

  17. Paper route during the summer when I was in Jr High. I delivered the Houston Press. The front and back page was pink on some days. I threw the papers from my bike, out of bags on a rack I had mounted on the back. I had 50 customers and collected $1.10 from each at the end of the month. I cleared about $20/mo.

    First job during the summer in high school was at then City National Bank downtown. I rode the bus from home, to downtown and back, every day. My main job was placing the written checks in a machine that punched holes in them. I also got to photocopy checks daily and the statements before they went out at the end of the month. When things were slow, I was sent down to the vault to empty the very heavy bags of coins into machines that would count the correct number of coins that went into the roll paks. I would then crease the tops of the rolls over and slam them onto a steel block to seal them shut. I made pretty good money for a HS kid at that time... $150/mo.

  18. Let's see, you got 57T-bird, FilioScotia, H2B, and Redscare............ :blink:

    Well... I'm going to my 55th HS reunion down there this November, so that will give you a clue as to my relation to that period. It was an absolutely wonderful period to "come of age" in. Wouldn't trade it for any decade since. My first car was a '51 Chevy, then a '56 Ford, and, most recently... what else but a '57 T'bird.

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