First off, I think most churches are kookie and the pastors that fleece the willing. Second, you never did answer my question, but got defensive about it. That leads me to believe what I'd heard it true ... I gave the forum (and you) a QUESTION ... not a statement. I guess now you really believe we are kookie kind of a church. For a group of believers who developed the concept, designed, and constructed a beautiful church like ours, it definitely makes us fit the profile. Also, to generalize the churches and pastors the way you did is very unwise and troubling. By the way, to answer your question, men do sit on one side and women on the other side of our church, which shows order and respect and it is nothing to be ashamed of or to make us appear to someone else to be unstable. Cisco