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  1. I just don't think it makes sense to keep updating when you have a one story building as your main building in a 5A high school. You can repaint the walls, but you still have to deal with the fact that hallways built for a school of 600 or 700 are now the main arteries in a school of over 3,000. I remember just being pressed into a mob as I walked down those hallways... can't imagine how bad it is now.

    I definitely sympathize with the other high schools that are as overcrowded as Klein (though with larger hallways and bathrooms). Maybe we just need to come to grips with the fact that we need to spend more money.

    I actually meant that Klein could do a major remodel not update. While this is taking place, Place Students in T-Buildings. 4 Elementary Schools had to do it when their school was full of mold and had to be rebricked. They didn't move these kids to Frank and Benignus just cause they were new and unused.

  2. That's kind of disappointing. I wonder whether it's a budget thing or just insensitivity to things like aesthetics and identity.

    It's a budget thing. The district saves money on Architectural Fees because the architect doesn't have to design a building, he already has drawings from the previous Klein school. The Architect only has to design a siteplan because every piece of property is different. For example Benignus, Frank and Elem. Schools #26-27 will be the same design, the district just spends money on making the school's fit to it's site.

  3. Cy Ridge and Cy Fair are real beauties. Hopefully the new Klein HS can equal those.

    Klein ISD believes in reusing Architects and Floorplans, HS #5 and HS #6 will most likely be a redesign of Klein Collins, adding new features like Grade Level Houses and a 3rd Gym. They have to go by the Findings and Directions Plan. The new Schools will most likely be redesigned by RWS Architects, the Architectural Firm who designed Klein Collins HS.

  4. I think the best alternative for Klein ISD to do at this point is to first put the 2nd High School #6 back on the Bond, and just do a major remodel and update to Klein High School. Then they need to build High School #5 and open it for the students who are supposed to be zoned there only. While Klein High School is being remodeled, Students can have class in T-Buildings and have Lunches held in the Annex Building. I don't think adding a new wing to Klein Oak will be very wise because when HS#6 opens, it's going to tke a big chunk of KOHS's Enrollment not to mention taking Gleannloch Farms and a couple other subdivisions when HS #5 opens.

    The way Klein Collins High School is growing, There might need to be a new Wing added to it. There is literally no more room to add anymore T-Building at KCHS. We already have about 14 lined up on the side of the school now. Klein Collins will not be relieved until the next Bond Program which could be up to 5 years from now. Klein Collins is the largest and newest high school in Klein ISD and can only hold 3,131 students to be exact, and there's about 3,260 almost 3,300 students in 113 classrooms and 28 T-Building Classrooms.

    Let's just face the facts, All 4 KISD High Schools are facing Overcrowding Issues. They can't all be delt with at one time.

  5. I hope and believe that Barack Obama will be the Democratic Candidate on the ballot. By the way it's looking now, He's on a role. It will really be awesome if he can get Texas on March 4th. There's supposed to be a democratic debate on February 28, 2008 at the GRB Convention Center. Hilliary has committed to participating, but Barack has not yet committed.

  6. No kidding, but my point was "Do we really need to have bell towers at elementary or any level schools?" Chris, I think one time you said you were a student at Klein Collins, are you still? How do happen to get information such as site plans for future schools, when that information has not yet been released to the community by Klein ISD? Do you have any ambitions to run for the school board one day yourself?

    Bell towers are just Architectural Elements that the architect uses in the building design? Yes, I am still a student at Klein Collins High School. The board releases information before the board meetings, and I do intend on becomming a Klein ISD Board Member one day.

  7. That "pod courtyard" looks like something from a prison movie, and a "bell tower", what the heck? Very odd.

    I still don't get that a new elementary will be built behind Krimmel. Within a stone's throw of there, you have Schultz Elementary, Metzler Elementary, Northampton Elementary, Roth Elementary and Benignus Elementary. Within the same area, you have Hildebrandt Intermediate and that's it for middle schools, and Klein Oak is it for high schools. What gives? Is there only "growth" in this area at the elementary school level?

    It's called a Bell Tower because ther's a bell inside of it/Main Entrance.

  8. These are more pictures of Frank and Benignus Elementary Schools. Elementary Schools #26-27 will be an exact repeat design with minor changes like adding Billingual Classes in each pod and eliminating 2 outdoor Courtyards. I put some Krimmel Pictures in here also. Also in the newer schools Klein ISD uses Ceramic Tile instaed of Terrazzo Flooring in wet areas.


    Benignus Elementary School


    Frank Elementary School Cafeteria-Inside


    Frank Elementary Gym


    Frank Elementary Pod Courtyard


    Frank Elementary Gym-Inside


    Frank Elementary Main Entrance-Bell Tower


    Benignus Elementary School


    Frank Elementary School


    Benignus Elementary School


    Krimmel Intermediate School


    Krimmel Intermediate Long View


    Krimmel Intermediate Main Entrance


    Krimmel Intermediate Library-Cafeteria

  9. Really? With Benignus Elementary already directly across the street from Krimmel? Are you sure? Why in the world would the district place two elementary schools THAT close to each other? Why not just add on to Benignus? Weird...

    Yeah I'm sure, I saw the floorplans and siteplan. Kaiser and Greenwood Forest Elementary Schools are on each side of Klein Forest High School. Due to the growth in the FM 2920 area, It won't be a problem at all, Elem. School #26 might be full at 2 years of existance.

  10. I've just learned that the location of Elementary School #26 will be located directly behind Krimmel Intermediate School. The district already owned the land which was originally planned for a new Multi-Purpose Stadium. I think the school will be connected to the Klein Meadows Subdivision. The Architectural and Siteplans are already drawn up.

  11. Many of the HISD schools are now getting electronic marquees. Does Klein ISD prefer traditional marquees?

    Yeah, Klein ISD doesn't use those kind. Some schools that have electronic Marquees have companies that have donated them to them, like Spring High School's donater is Planet Ford.

  12. One thing that knowone probably has thought of that needs to be on the bond, is to construct a Marquee Sign for Klein Collins High School. It should have been constructed during construction but it wasn't. The newer schools have them built durung construction. KCHS is the only school in Klein ISD that doesn't have one to my knowledge. Many events and activities take place and the community dosen't know about them like they would for the other schools.




  13. Given the situation, I think KISD is doing the smartest thing by shifting enrollment Westward. It makes the most sense from a fiscal standpoint and provides the most benefit for students and residents.

    I also think it's a great idea, but yet and still we can't forget about other parts of the district like the Klein Forest Zone.

  14. story from the Houston Chronicle

    from the article:

    "When I talk to people about the (proposed) bond issue they cringe at first, but then I explain the details," said Marcia Baulch, a Klein ISD parent and member of the district's 2008 bond steering committee, which included parents, residents, business owners, teachers, administrators and staff. "It is how you present it to the public. If this doesn't happen property values will be affected, and for most people their largest investment is their home. I think we can sell $638 million to the community if they truly understand what could happen if the district delayed building schools and other projects until it was too late."

    Several steering committee members said the Klein High School replacement project would probably provoke the most criticism and opposition. The proposed $130 million project calls for the demolition and reconstruction of several of the school's older buildings, some dating from the early 1960s, and the relocation of the entire Klein High student body to the district's proposed fifth high school on Spring Cypress Road during the two-year construction process.

    The school district will hold four community forums, one at each high school in April, if the board calls a May election.

    The Klein Bond Political Action Committee will hold its first meeting Feb. 6 at 6:30 p.m. at First Service Credit Union, 9621 Sam Houston Parkway North.

    from pineda:

    If the bond steering committee does not remove the Klein High School replacement project from the list for the bond election, I won't be voting for the bond, period, no matter how much Marcia thinks she can "sell" this to me.

    Yeah, You have a point and I agree. The whole Klein High Scghool situation is just crazy and dumb. In the report from the Chronicle, It says there's money for additions to Klein Oak High School. Why would Klein Oak need additions? This may be the hardest bond that Klein ISD trys to pass. If the Bond Election is in May, How will land for the new schools be cleared in March and April? Elementary Schools 26 and 27 will start construction in March and the Strack Fine Arts Center will start construction in April.

    Those 9th grade centers are simply band-aids for School Districts too cheap to build new schools. Spring ISD did that with Westfield. Didn't seem to do them a whole lot of good.

    I can see your point very clearly now that you put it that way. Klein ISD should just build another High school south of Klein Forest.

  15. How is this going to benefit my neighborhood? Why should I pay for new schools to the north when Klein Forest is over-crowded, has a negative reputation that effects peoples decision to buy in my neighborhood? Klein has ignored the residents living in Greenwood Forest, Huntwick and Fountainhead.

    I've spoken with many of my neighbors who feel the same way. They got the bond through in 2004 and now they are coming at us once again. Nevermind the fact that over the last 2 years property assessments in Greenwood on average increased by $20,000 per home, what are they doing with this money?

    I don't think that bussing the students up to Klein is the answer, it would make more sense to add another high school to the south and then re-align the district pulling some of Klein over to Klein Forest. Should they decide to re-align and build a school to the south then I would be interested in the bond.

    Honestly, would you send your children to Klein Forest or to another Klein school given the choice? My vote is No to the bond.

    One solution that could work that Klein ISD has not thought of is to build a 9th grade Center for Klein Forest. That would eliminate 1,000 students alone. I think that would be the best solution. All they have to do is include it into the bond. There's enough land adjacent to Klein Forest to construct a 130,000-200,000 square foot facility just for freshmen students. Therfore the main campus would have only 2,500 10-12 grade students at the most.

  16. houstonmacbro said

    Occasionally they do. Look at you rates on HCAD. My overall bill went down 1% (happy dance) :huh:

    ENGcons said

    I think thats crazy. :blink: Before Klein Forest was built, Greenwood Forest residents were bussed to Klein (the only high school at the time) Now, once again, you want to send students 6 miles up the road rather than let them attend the school in their neighborhood.

    Having been involved with master planning, bond elections, and construction I can say there always seems to be plenty of waste. What's important to one person is of no relevance to no one else. The contractors look at these projects as cash cows. Unfortunately, this seems to be the system the Texas Legislature has given us.

    Note that NHMCCD, now LoneStar College, is making plans for a bond election also.

    Yeah you have a point, but Klein ISD does not plan to relieve Klein Forest in any way, so thats the only solution that could work. Klein ISD usually does stupid zoning sometimes. For example the Main Entrance to the Village of Avalon Lakes is located on FM 2920 and Alvin A. Klein Dr. Klein ISD buses those kids 3-4 miles down FM 2920 and up Kuykendahl all the way to Schultz Elementary. These kids pass right by Benignus Elementary everyday, I mean Benignus is right across the street, and yet they go 3-4 miles out the way. I don't think it's fair to relieve every Klein ISD High School except Klein Forest. I think it would be a great solution.

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