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  1. End of shift would be during rush hour, around 5:15 Yes, I remember Jamails and House of Pies being along there somewhere- actually my fuzzy memory puts it between the two. but I have not been on those streets in decades. It was definately around there somewhere, because it was my first encounter with the chain- and only one for 20 years. The only other place where I could imagine it would be on buffalo speedway, between 59 and san felipe. But that would only be on the assumption that it was never on kirby which it where I remember it being.
  2. I remember the Jack-in-the-Box at Bellfort and Chimney Rock. Remember Jack Cola? It was their cheap verson of Coke. For spite and to send a message we would drive up and order Coke and they would reply, "We serve Jack Cola." So we would say never mind and speed off. That jack in the box I remember (perhaps incorrectly) as the first fast food chain, followed by the burger king on post oak. In the landscape history of commercial architecture, Jack in the box was perhaps the first drive through chain where you talk to a speaker (jack) and this was one of the first ones. Contrast with the early burger king on post oak- it was walkin only. Thus westbury was percieved as a hot market by two up and coming chains in the early 1960s. I remember doing the same kind of thing- go to jack and the box and start an arguement with jack.....
  3. This would have been in the mid 70s, and at the time I worked at Hobbit Hole on shepard between san felipe and west gray. The meateaters that worked there would sometimes go to steak and shake after shift. We would go down san felipe, and take a left, and it was on the west side of kirby, and the entrance was from kirby, but I dont remember the cross street. It was a 10-15 minute drive in the mid 70s from shepard and san felipe. It closed at some point in the 1970s, and I did not see another one till I moved to florida in 1990. I remember the burgers being remarkably good.
  4. Hey, Stu, on the westbury high page they are talking about the guys that got sent home for too long hair

  5. In the mid 70s, there was one on kirby-perhaps thats the Westheimer one, but I entered it from kirby.
  6. Then next door was the short strip building that held the 7-11, and once had a pizza place. I remember that. The pizza place was originally a hardware store run by a cranky old guy who was suspicious of any kids that came there to buy things. Then it became Zippy pizza, and then Sir Pizza. My sister and other friends worked there. We used to call in loaded pizza orders right before closing so that when the girls got off, there would be free loaded pizzas.
  7. [iE: Mr. Melanson.. I'll never forget that guy.. Was real hairy... :/ With a little more, he could have been in the Planet of the Apes movies.. I had him for mechanical drawing. I remember him for his influence and his strong cajun accent. I later took mechanical drawing in college, and even later took computer assisted cartography, remote sensing, GIS, and now I teach Geographic Information Science at the undergraduate and graduate level, a five course Remote Sensing GISystems, Geovisualization sequence. I was the one that finally chased the drafting boards and pens out of the department, replacing them with computers.
  8. In the 1970s there was a Lobotamy clinic on one of the streets that ran parallel to main, but to the east, such as fannin. Somewhere between herman park and downtown. There was a sign by the street for the clinic, and there was a guy who looked like he had a mental problem, who would walk to the sign and urinate on it, frequently. This happened so frequently, that on occasion I would be driving past telling the story, and we would see him do it again. It appeared that he made a daily visit to the clinic to urinate on it.
  9. Durham drive was named for Dr. Charles Edward Durham (Sr.), who i think founded Durham clinic in the heights. He was active until the 1950s, I was told that I was the last child that he delivered (I am named after him) in Heights hospital in 1953. Likely the drive was renamed some time during or after his active period, which it seems ended in the 1950s.
  10. [. Suburbs were developed in the mid to late 1800s and were accelerated with the development of streetcars. Houston Heights and Austin's Hyde Park are both streetcar suburbs.
  11. Nude swimming for boys was in effect when I went to Albert Sydney Johnston Jr High around 65-66. It was very awkward, I didnt like it. The rumor was that girls did not swim nude, but I dont know the fact. Boys definately did.
  12. Ones of the things I wondered about Houston when I went east to start my college education was why it was so low on the radar of other americans. Then I looked at banking linkages: when these were mapped in the 1970s they showed that dallas dominated the texas oil industry, while houstons connections were national and offshore. Houston was less connected to Dallas and San Antonio than to England, Scotland or Saudi Arabia. So Dallas bidnessmen had big cowboy hats and strong Texas accents: they were speaking to rural texas, while Houstonians often have indistinquishable accents-doing international business, speaking to an international community in english, without an accent. No one has ever come up to me and said- you must be from houston. Think of our media: Dan Rather, Jessica Savitch, little or no accents. It made me wonder if the need to speak english to non english speakers in the oil hegemony years shaped our dialect, which is barely distinguishable as southern and western. There was also a time in which people in the northeast with thick accents would condemn texas accents, so texas in an international arena would avoid using their accents. So I think that Houstonians are invisible because they have come to represent Americans and the english speaking world all over the planet. Africans, Asians, Arabs, Persians, and Europeans have told me that this is true. Unless we wear cowboy hats we are seen as generic english speaking world people, and if we wear cowboy hats they assume we are from dallas.
  13. University of California at berkley is a major research library with many floors of books, or stacks, much like UT. If you see the name Dobie in texas, it is a reference to J Frank Dobie, who collected and edited texas folklore for about half a century. He wrote dozens of books, and rejuvenated the texas folklore society for decades, pumping out historical information on texas culture. His interviews included people who were alive in the second half of the nineteenth century. Some african studies scholars at berkely told me that they thought juneteenth would die out were it not for dobies writings, because no one else recorded the celebration of the event back in the 19th century. I do not know that to be true, but it is possible. Most college and city libraries have some dobie books, because he was so prolific in the field of folklore and texas history. He recorded the legend of stampede mesa in the 1930s, which was the inspiration for the song "ghost riders in the sky".
  14. At some point, J frank Dobie, the Texas folklorist, wrote about the celebration of junetenth at this park, in either the journal of the texfolklore society, or in one of his books. I remember reading several pages about this, in the stacks at berkley in the early 1970s. At the time, it was the only documentation of juneteenth and black studies people at berkley were promoting the holiday, and researching writings about juneteenth. I was told that Dobies work was the only academic work on the holiday at that time.
  15. Anybody remember the Bookstore? The Soda Fountain across from it? The sword fighting around the fountain in the middle of the square??? Gee what a great time to be young, cute and dating...... When I was in high school (68-71) some of us considered the bookstore to be the best place to work, period, primarily due to the general feeling of being on the square.
  16. I know the house. There was a design group called "Ant Farm" that did an exhibit at the Contemporary Arts museum in the late 60s early 70s, and they also built a similar house that was visible on the way to freeport, on the west side of the roadin angleton, I think. I always wondered if they also built the one in tanglewood. Never saw enough detail to compare the two.
  17. I think it's also a law that the beverage has to be wrapped to take out of the store. I once had a TABC license in a past life, this is why I seem to remember this.. If I remember right, all booze must be in a bag to be taken out of the place it was sold at. I think this even applies to buying a six pack at a stop n rob, to be technical, but I'm not sure all follow it these days. But I'm fairly sure about the single can beers, etc.. They had to be wrapped in a bag to be taken out. It was more for that law, than to make it easy for the drinkers to hide I think. MK Yes, thats what I remember. It had to be covered up to take it out of the store. There were also laws limiting how you could advertise stores taht sold liquor. In the carolinas, there is a chain called ABC, and ABC became a generic way of saying we sell beer, wine and liquor. I did a survey of koozies in Pennsylvania in the late 1980s, and I discovered that over half of them were made in Belton Texas. Here in south Florida, they are uncommon, but the convention is really to drink at outdoor tiki bars, by the pitcher, with small bags of ice in the pitcher. Beer always seems to be served warmer than in Texas. I always tell people if it does not hurt the hand to reach into the ice chest, its not cold enough.
  18. Edge City is a term coined in a 1980s book by that name by the journalist Joel Garreua (last name misspelled). It refers to high rise mini-downtowns that spring up around major intersections of loops and arterial freeways. He cites the galleria area as generating more wealth than miami. Tysons corner in the dc area is another one. Rod Ericson did work on the evolution of land use around beltway-arterial interchanges- as the interstate system was completed, low intensity land use would be transformed into major commercial complexts, with offices, malls, etc. very rapidly in the late 60s and early 70s. In Joels book he lists numerous examples but the galleria-greenway plaza area is frequently cited. I do not think Transco Tower had been built yet. At that time, the original downtowns were still declining, and edge cities frequently were booming, in terms of commerce and real estate value.
  19. block book for this area just says "a replat of Windsor Plaza Apartments" - does anyone know anything more about them? the scan didn't turn out so well, but check out the pointy spikes! In 1972, I was the paperboy for the Chronicle for the Royal Windsor apts, and others on sage road. I remember it as a swinging singles complex. Telephone spool tables, ozarka water bottle terrariums, macromee (sic) hangers with ferns or sand candles. On sunday morning the sliding glass doors would be wide open, sometimes people passed out near the doors.
  20. A bigger bummer is that we will never taste that chicken again- the best I ever had. I do remember the indians looked like the summerville one- they were 3d figures and the one on the right as you faced them was kneeling, and the other was kneeling or sitting.
  21. In the fall of 1971 I was the paperboy for the Chronicle delivering to the apts in this area. Starting with the Windsor apts, I would carry huge bags of papers to every subscriber. I remember going through the windsor, and seeing many hanging furns, telephone cable spools turned into tables, and ozarka water bottle terrariums. Also doors open, people passed out on the floor, etc. I remember the bali hai, a fantastic tiki village, and the marquee being the quietest, staid, upscale units. The floors would squeak as I walked down the corridors at 4 in the morning. If I am right, the landscaping and atmosphere was upscale french-new orleans. I cant remember the rest of the apt complexes in the area, but I delivered to them all. I thought that the galleria area "edge city" would doom them someday
  22. http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...?showtopic=6828 The topic is called Weather Eye, and it is currently on about page 9 of historic houston. I tried to copy the link above.
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