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  1. Thanks for the link Urban.  Knowing the height restrictions really helps you visualize how this place will look going down 45 or the GP. 

     

    It's amazing to watch the next energy corridor being created. 

     

    Question for anyone:  Do you think this place could become a tourist destination?

     

    not springwoods specifically.  as development densifies around the spring creek greenway project, outdoor activities like hiking, horseback riding, kayaking, nature walks, and more will increase between 59 and tomball along the spring creek corridor.  the woodlands already has a tourist base, but why they come other than to shop, see a concert, and walk around, i have no idea.  springwoods will have less for tourists to do than the woodlands.  springwoods' nature trails will be connected to the spring creek greenway project, as are trails that connect grogan's mill, indian springs and creekside in the woodlands.  i think the recreational space connecting tomball, the woodlands, springwoods, and neighborhoods east toward 59 will become a tourist draw.

     

    http://www.springcreekgreenway.org/Spring%20Creek%20Greenway%20-%20Gateway%20Map%2002-2011.pdf

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  2. You mean like this decorative crown? Would you really want city council members making design by committee decisions on aesthetics on high profile buildings in downtown Houston? Yes make it better, but better to who? The guy who approved this beauty...? Careful what you wish for. At least what Chevron is currently proposing won't hurt downtown. When you see the effects of high profile ugly it makes you realize that there are worse things than boring.

     

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    makes one a little sick to see it up close like that.  what the hell is it?  it's so stupid looking.

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  3. I'm extremely disappointed. I wanted the building to be shorter and a little more boxy. Also, can't they wait until 2025 to build? Why would they want to build this tower before they have enough tenants? What's the rush anyway? What the hell is wrong with everybody?  Why can't they ever do anything right in Houston. Traffic everywhere. Insufficient rail. Summer is too hot. I hate the mosquitos too. 

     

    funny misterx................

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  4. i had hopes that it would not compete with the design of bg group place.  at 41 stories, it looks a little lost in the city from certain angles.   if it is significantly taller, it will enhance the skyline greatly.  shall we start betting on the new height?

  5. I think the King Ranch owned the Kingwood land. I think the Woodlands wasn't part of Mitchell Energy, just another George Mitchell project.

     

    Much of the Camp Strake land is in the flood plain, and not very useful. The City of Conroe will probably end up with 300+ acres to expand the sewer plant.

     

    "The Foster Lumber Company originally owned a portion of the tract of land that was later developed into the community of Kingwood. The Foster Family had owned the land since around 1892.[5] On December 28, 1967, the land was sold to the joint venture between King Ranch and the Friendswood Development Company, an Exxon subsidiary.[6] Exxon's Friendswood Development Company hired John Bruton Jr. to serve as the Operations Manager in which he was responsible for the planning, development, engineering, and construction of Kingwood"

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingwood,_Houston#cite_note-Kingwood.2C_Texas_Summary-6

     

    the woodlands development didn't split from mitchell energy until late in the game.  mitchell energy was mitchell energy & development.  the development part of mitchel energy

    became the woodlands development company.  http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dom05

  6. oil/gas companies owned the land that became the woodlands (mitchell energy) and kingwood (exxon i think).  exxonmobil needed the infrastructure that springwoods developed in order for exxon's new campus to get off the ground.  the same could be true of 2,175 acres;  2,175 acres which is just down the street from where a planned extension of the hardy toll road will come out (south loop 336 in conroe).

  7. heard a rumor that that of the boy scouts' five offers for camp strake in conroe, just north of 1488, that two of the offers are from shell and chevron.  minor league baseball has been publicly reported as having made an offer as well.  although shell and chevron have popped up in rumors about a woodlands tower, downtown towers, and i think something was in the paper about shell expanding at a current location, they must be reviewing many options.  a second large energy company just north of the woodlands would make the woodlands town center "bookended" and the center of a growing new city center.

     

    has anyone else heard the same?

  8. heard a rumor that that of the boy scouts' five offers for camp strake in conroe, just north of 1488, that two of the offers are from shell and chevron.  minor league baseball has been publicly reported as having made an offer as well.  although shell and chevron have popped up in rumors about a woodlands tower, downtown towers, and i think something was in the paper about shell expanding at a current location, they must be reviewing many options.  a second large energy company just north of the woodlands would make the woodlands town center "bookended" and the center of a growing new city center.

     

    has anyone else heard the same?

  9. kona grill at 4 waterway has a liquor license app posted; construction ongoing.  ferrarri satellite store charles schwab by hubbell & hudson is coming along rapidly (the ferrari satellite is near fiat).  burgerfi and the cycle shop also on lake robbins, in the waterway parking garage, are taking shape as well.  morton's grill is under construction on the other side of hubbell & hudson.  not much retail space left in the waterway square district.

     

    yet, a fourth source mentioned that another tower is imminent in town center.  no details of course.

     

    i wonder if the shortage of retail space in town center will bring new development?

  10. Conroe is also a city unto itself with a Lake Community, a small airport, fairgrounds, energy sector jobs, a school system shared with The Woodlands, etc.  Conroe's largest employers are the City of Conroe, CISD, and Montgomery County.  Conroe is the County Seat of Montgomery serving The Woodlands.  Conroe contains mostly government jobs, The Woodlands is mostly private sector jobs. Conroe was not built by developers to make a quick buck like the pop up developments around the city.  Conroe has been sustained because of Lake Conroe, The Woodlands, the intersection of 105 and I-45,and an ever growing gut of government offices.  The increase is relevent for The Woodlands because it is not a bedroom community that loses a large portion of its population during the day which was the intent from the inception.

  11. George Mitchell envisioned a community with as many jobs as it had people.  The "plan" was to create a satellite city that, although dependent on Houston, would reduce commuters, preserve greenspace, and create a new model for city planning.  An ideal scenario would have been to have many "The Woodlands" spread out around Houston.  A recent Census Bureau interactive commuter map posted on the Houston Chronicle website shows that The Woodlands master plan has succeeded in reducing commuters from within the development.  

     

     
    Place name: The Woodlands CDP
    State name: Texas
    Total resident population: 92,064
    Total workers working in place: 45,102 (more jobs than there are workers)
    Total workers living in place: 40,913

    Estimated daytime population: 96,253
    Daytime population change due to commuting: 4,189
    Percent daytime population change due to commuting: 4.6 (that's an increase/NOT just a bedroom community)  Compare it to Pearland, Cinco Ranch, Atascocita (almost 37% commute), League City.
     
     
    Home town bragging aside, I wonder if "city center/town center concepts will turn the tide of ever expanding city limits?  Sugarland appears to keep a large portion of it's work force at home too.  The Woodlands has been fortunate in that there has been much affordable housing mixed in with the expensive housing (although that may be coming to an end). If city center/town center master plans remain playgrounds for the "have's" only, the "have-not's" will still have to commute in order to work for the have's....and maybe that's a given.

     

  12. Bachanon! Thanks so much! Anadarko's building is more ''ho hum'' than I thought it would be. I guess I expected it to be ''broad shouldered'' like the first tower. This one looks frumpy compared to the first tower. Thoughts?

     

    i think the finished product will be attractive, at least on the waterway side.  it has a notch towards the top that we do not see in the construction yet.  it does look thinner than some of the renderings appear, but i think that makes it look sleek.  the woodlands needs a tall tower closer to lake woodlands as a bookend to the forming downtown area.  of course, nothing 30 stories or so are planned, that we know of, on that side of town center.

     

    i heard that a second type of water taxis are in the works to connect hughes landing on the north end of the lake with the waterway.  because the waterway with the current water taxis is at a higher level, the new "thing" will have to be completely separate from the existing waterway taxis.  hughes landing is about to break ground on tower number two.  kona grill is going in on the first floor of 4 waterway square, right across the street from anadarko II.  

     

    the hotel at waterway square is supposed to break ground this year and as soon as a tenant is signed for 10 waterway ave, that's going up too.  there's so much going and many people are being "mum" on coming announcements.  i see a lot of zipped lips and half smiles lately when new things "that aren't ready for publc consumption" are mentioned.

     

    i hope that the developers do not get over-confident and continue to use restraint as the woodlands has managed to do in the past.  i digress.......anadarko II, i think, will be a better finished product than it appears at this time.

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