nm5k

The track location looks pretty close. I think picture #11 where all the

soldiers are on horseback may well be at the entrance to what is now

picnic lane. Not totally sure, but the way the ditch on the side of the road

looks, it sure likes like the road in front of the ballball place, etc.

I haven't been out there in quite a while, but the south side of the street

has the large parking lot lining it, with the open area across the street

where people often play football, etc.. I'm not sure if the ditch you see

in the picture is the north or south side, but to this day, the north side

has a definite "ditch" on the side of the road, and the east may too,

but I always remember the north side as standing out more.

So I'm kinda leaning to that being the north side of the road,

looking east, but just speculation.

yea, know what you mean about looking back in time.

I like old pictures.. Have 100's and 100's and 100's of them

on my hard drive. I just now looked in just one folder alone and

had 2300 pictures in it.. What I like is many of the old pictures have

quite high quality, even compared to todays B/W standards.

IE: Some of Brady's civil war pix are amazing quality for the

mid 1800's. The first picture ever taken was in 1839..Of course,

I have it on my hard drive.. It's a self poitrait of the picture

taker.. I also collect lots of the large city panaramic photo's.

It's weird to look at an old picture and know that everyone in

it is long gone.. But except for some old sound clips from the

late 1800's, the old pictures are the next best thing to climbing

into a time machine.

MK

Isuredid, I got your mail about the junction, but when I replied it said your box was full.

That is near the junction, but not totally sure exactly where. The pix is not cropped.

Check this site.. Thats where I got that picture and map.

http://www.jimgill.net/gill/wwipages/index.html

You can check the map sections, and maybe get a clue.. Also lots

more pix that I haven't posted yet..

Also has all his letter from the camp, which are a pretty interesting read.

Note that there is a pix of a water tower. That is on the map, and also near

the junction. There may be others taken near that area.

MK

Over the past few years of internet collecting, I've scrounged up quite a few

pictures of Camp Logan. I haven't seen much listed on it, so I thought I would

throw a few on. Here are 15 of them.. I also have a detailed map of the camp

that was drawn by a map maker soldier who was there.

The writing you see on the pictures is backwards, but the image itself is

the right way. It's only the writing that is backwards.

Sorry if these dupe any others might have already posted..

I get these from various sites.. Many came from the library of congress,

but some came from other sites.

I've got more, but I don't want to bog you all down at one time..

I'm on cable now, so pretty zippy, but I realize it can take a while

for a dial up to load the page.. So I better not get too carried away..

MKhttp://home.comcast.net/~disk100/pc_drill.jpg

Not exactly, however I do know that there are evil men everywhere. And most of them are elected (supposedly elected) officials.

C.

There were some weird things that happened that day..

It's kinda wierd.. I just ran across two clips dealing with

this recently..

One was a clip I ran across on you tube.

It deals with the supposed yanking of the secret

service bodyguards off that motorcade.. Kinda strange..

The agents seemed to think so too..

Another is the "KILT" audio which was recorded at the

time the bulletins first hit the air that afternoon.

http://vasthead.com/Radio/KILT/KILT_1963_11-22.mp3

Now, obviously there are problems in the info they are

getting.. IE: they thought LBJ was shot at one point.

The part I thought was sort of interesting is the first

details of the shooting, the first details of the wound

locations..

The first reports aired, claimed the shots seem to come

from the grassy knoll.. :/ It was a bit later that they also

started looking at the buildings behind them also..

Also, the first reports of the wound location claim he

was shot in the temple, from the front.. :/

I have also seen reports that the first doctors that

looked at him thought he was shot from the front, and

reported as such, but this was changed later..

Myself, I dunno.. I'm kinda mixed on whether Oswald

was the lone gunman..

My gut instinct tells me he was not alone, but I'm not

quite sure I would want to label the goverment as

being in on the scheme. It's possible some members

of government might have been in on it though.

IE: if they had mob connections, etc.. I'm still

not totally convinced the mob didn't have something

to do with it. And having a "mobster" IE: Ruby, kill

the shooter is just like something the mob would

cook up to keep him quiet. And Ruby did have some

mob connections so they say.

And the mob had a motive of sorts..

#1, JFK had that mob guy up in Chicago not too happy

with him.. And #2, RFK was constantly on their butts

about one thing or another.

I won't even get into all the Cuban stuff..

He had people mad at him for that deal...

It's enough to make you wonder sometimes..

I really don't see LBJ being in on it.. Why would

anyone tell the VP they are going to kill the prez..

Doesn't really make sense.

MK

>What used to be where the driveway is now located? All of the buildings have stairs that lead down to the driveway.

It used to be a big parking lot, all the way from the bull @ anchor, to the parking lot that dominoes is on,

all the way back to about halfway between chimney rock, and W. bellfort. There used to be a hill of dirt

adjoining chimney rock, and many used to ride bikes there. At the south side of the parking lot, "at the

back, if you came in on W.Bellfort, there used to be brick stairs that led to an elevated sidewalk. I think

originally the sidewalk may have actually connected to the square near rumpleheimers, but in the later

years, it was closed off. So they would leave their cars, and instead go up one of the stairways that

you see. There were at least two sets.. One at bull @ anchor, and I think there was another one down

by where the candle shop used to be. When the square was going, you could pull in the parking lot

at the entrance at B @ A, and drive all the way around, across the back, and then you could come

back out at the east entrance which was near dominoes.. All in the middle was parking spaces,

the usual westbury square type of parking lot lights, etc..

You can probably see most of that still intact on the '95 picture recently posted.

MK

Hi, Mk. in 63-64-65, I was 10, 11 and 12, and all over that square, on my bike and on foot, just about every day. At the time, the restaurant with the red door was an Italian restaurant named Mario's. They had really good cheeses as part of the appetizers, and they put a fresh "drip" candle from the candle shop in the Chianti bottle in the window every day, so they had this huge multicolored wax chianti bottle sculpture thing going..

Real good Italian sausage.. good wines, I guess, because many distinctive bottles were around.. Italian accordion music playing from a small speaker outside..the first letter in that picture doesn't look too much like an "M" from that angle, granted, but that was the name of it..

stu

Yea, I remember Marios now... I forgot all about that place.. It was still there when I moved here..

So I guess they left, and Al-Beto's came in sometime between 69 and say 72 or so.. I started working

there about 73 I think. I think that location is now about where the lumber is in Home despot...

MK

Those are pretty early pictures.. I never saw westbury square with grass around the

piazza.. When I moved here in 69, all that was already covered up with cement, tiles,

etc... Was wall to wall covered, with no grass anywhere. So I'd guestimate that card

was from the early to mid 60's..Judging from the clothes worn, I'd say about 63-64-65??

The middle pix shows where I worked in the early 70's.. "Al -betos".

"The shop with the red door"

But... In that pix, the sign seems to not say Al-betos, but something else.. So maybe that

was a different restaurant at that time..?? Hard to read the sign though...

I remember I used to like to buy the short scented candles from the candle shop..

They would have wood bins full of those things, in all flavors and scents... You could

buy them fairly cheap.. I used to like the Vanilla scented ones... Strawberry was pretty

good too..

MK

Excelllent photos. Thanks for sharing. The story behind the old Square and what's happened to it since is an intriguing one, I agree. I have to confess that I am old enough to have gone there in it's heyday, with my parents. It was truly ahead of it's time. I think location, more than anything, was responsible for it having such a short life. Chimney Rock and Bellfort just isn't a very convenient location , lacking freeway access and all. Also, that part of town started to really change about that time, from white suburbia to a mixed urban neighborhood.

Thanks again!

What really kicked off the decline of Westbury Square was the Gallaria.

When it first opened, it was quite a big deal with all the shops, and skating

rink, etc.

So it drew away quite a bit of people that would have gone to Westbury Square.

Also, Westbury Squares shops were more into the sort of offbeat stuff, with some

exceptions, where as the Gallaria had a lot of big names, and other smaller

shops. Probably more variety in the overall scheme of things.

BTW, the building formally known as Exxon is not the same as the Conaco.

The Conaco was more on Chimney Rock. I've been trying to decide exactly where

it was.. I was thinking pretty close to the corner, near the pizza place, but

after thinking about it, it's quite possible it was in the building that now houses

one of the car repair places.. It's fenced in now, and has junk cars laying around.

I think that might have been the old Conaco, but I'm still not totally sure as

it's been so long. In fact... It's possible the car repair joint was once a different

station, and the Conoco was closer to the corner at W. Bellfort, but I may be

way off on that... But I used to buy gas at that Conaco when I first

started driving, so I know it was more on Chimney Rock, than Bellfort

as far as it's likely address. For some reason I keep thinking the Conoco

was near the corner, and you could get to it from either Bellfort by making

the curved turn, or Chimney Rock, which would put it about where the Pizza place

is.

But if not, it was where the car repair place is..

The car repair place at Chimney Rock and Burdine was once a Gulf station,

with a 7-11 next door. A red brick Texaco was across the street where the present

newer store/gas station is.

For some reason, I'm thinking the discount tire might have been a gas station

also at some point, but time is killing my memory... I should know what it was

before, but danged if I can remember... It's just not something I've thought

about through the years to keep in my brain... :/ It may have been a different

company auto repair, or tire shop. I don't think firestone though, as firestone

was in the weingartens center. The auto repair place in that center was the old

firestone. I remember I bought my first portable shortwave radio there. "Philco".

That was about 1971.. Actually, that repair place doesn't look too bad. It's enclosed,

and no junk cars laying around. It's the places that have the fenced areas, "both

on Chimney Rock", that look the worst. They have lots of junk, cars, etc laying around...

The one north of W. Bellfort being the worst usually. Wrecked cars, boats, junk, etc..

I've never really minded the place at the weingartens center.. It's never had that

problem. Once they close their doors, there is not much to see really..

MK

I had forgotten about the Baskin Robbins. There was also a Baseball Card shop there later. I drove by there yesterday, and it looks like nothing is in that strip facing W. Bellfort. When you mentioned "Tobys," I remembered it. Another thing I recall about the Jack-In-The-Box, is that the house located across the street from it, had reflective mirrored tint on their windows to cut down on the headlites shining in from the drive thru. The barber shop was owned by a man named Gene Rentz (sp).

Gene Rentz lived across the street from me a couple of houses down. He died in 2004.

I still get my hair cut at the barber shop next door to the shoe/boot shop, which used to be next door to Brittains (miss the coffee ice cream). Where Dugans was, later Eckerds and then CVS, it is now vacant. They must have moved within the last 3 weeks.

Yea, CVS pulled out not too long ago. Is the shoe shop still there? I haven't actually looked lately.

It was run by an old guy that was once in a nazi concentration camp. He had the numbers on his

arm to prove it. His son took it over as far as I know. His name is Alex, and is usually over at

the S. Post Oak location by Annies burger joint.

MK

I lived on Cedarhurst, which is the street that ran beside the Centerette. I went to that Utotem,Jack-In-The-Box and drug store all of the time. Many a Cherry or Vanilla Coke were consumed there and lots of Baseball cards were bought at the Utotem. I miss the Bonus Jacks. For some reason I am am always getting the names of THAT drug store and the one near the Beldens Food Giant (near A.J.Foyt Cheverolet) at W. Bellfort and Post Oak confused. One was Cunningham and the other???

I knew a few people that lived on Cedarhurst. I think Cunningham was probably the one at W. Bellfort and

Post Oak. I can't remember what name the one in the centerette had, but I remember it being open when

I moved here in 69. Dugans was the one next to Weingartens.

In it's prime, the Bellfort side of the centerette was pretty full. You had U-totem, a barber shop, a womens hair

salon, a Baskin Robbins , a cleaners, and Toby's adult beverage store. *hic* The enco/exxon.. I wish I could

buy gas for that price now.. Also...There was once a Conaco station about where the Pizza place is now..

I almost forgot about that place... But I used to go there when I first started driving. It sticks out, cuz they

used to sell 5 grades of gas back then. Course, I used premium, as I drove a 65 impala with a 396... :/

At one time, I guy I knew had a A/C and heat office in one of those back in the 80's. They sold stuff like solar water

heaters, etc.. Scarfed many a burger/taco/whatever at Jack in the Crack.. We used to hang out there late

at night in the summer back in the 70's... Used to have the front sliding window you could order if on foot..

The "Weingartens" center has been there a while too. When I moved here, it was Weingartens, a Dugans drug,

Brittains broiler burger, a shoe shop, the barber shop, a TG&Y. A firestone. Maybe more, but I ferget...

Of course, back then the bank was Westbury Square National Bank. Of all those the barber shop still lives

in basically the same location and even chair config... :/ Not sure about the shoe shop.. I knew the owners

of that, and I know he also has one on S Post Oak, but not sure if he still owns the one on Bellfort or not.

If so, it's pretty much the same too I'm sure.

MK

Don't remember Yumbo ham-burger, but yea, Mels...Thats the name..Pretty sure.

I also wonder what will ever become of the bowling alley. They have it fenced

up, but it all pretty much looks intact. Been vacant for a long time.. At least

I think it's vacant... I don't know when it was built, but I guess in the late 50's

judging from the way it used to look inside.. It used to have a little restarant

inside at the front.

It seems to be there in the 1960 pix.

MK

I made an attempt to locate specific date the airport opened but could not find, was it 1969?

I must say one of the most exciting times for me was going to the Intercontinental airport when it 1st opened. My big sister was a "stewardess" for Eastern Airlines from around 1968-1972. Whenever she was in town we would drive waaaayyyy far from Houston to pick her up at this new airport you always would hear about. Seemed like an eternity to get there but it was well worth it! As a nine year old kid it seemed so exciting to see the big jet planes taxiing down the runways and hearing them fly overhead. The hustle and bustle of the crowd was even more exciting. I recall almost everyone being so well dressed, but what really floored me was the airline staff. They were always dressed so professionally. In those days stewardess's had to be single, no children, beautiful and the right weight. Basically perfect in every way. Luckily I still have my old Eastern Airlines toy plane. Just wondered if any others remember visiting the airport and of other airlines that used to stop over at that time, ie: Pan-Am, etc.

Anyone know where to find pics of official opening?

I flew into IAH in Nov 1969. That was when we moved here from K.C. Came in on a braniff 727..

That was when all the braniff planes had the funky day glo colors.. I think ours was kind of a

baby doo-doo green.. :/ I didn't see much of it, just where we actually went in the terminal. But I remember

it being nearly brand new.

MK

I think he was the one that used to keep silver dollars in racks at his

house. <<'nm5k'

That would be Jim West Jr, not to be confused with Jim West Sr. who actually built the house. Sr. died in the 1940's and his wife Jessie in the 1950's. In his will he stipulated that the house was not to be used as a private residence again. I hope they can save the house, it's very cool.

That would make sense, as the info I read on the "silver dollar" Jim West, that liked to

ride around with the police, died in about 1957 or thereabouts.. I didn't realize they had

two of them.

MK

They wanted the street to be pretty. Probably not and ounce of truth to it but we believed it. Ida was born in 1879 and she MUST have know Everything!

Dunno, knowing past Houstonians, that story might not be so far fetched.. Sounds like something

they might do, if money was flush, and they really wanted to impress the prez..

MK

I think he was the one that used to keep silver dollars in racks at his

house. He used to have servants polish them up real shiny..

Then he would take a bunch of them and go ride around town in

his limo throwing them at the poor lessers that would come across his path.

While he was doing that, the servants at home would be refilling

the racks with fresh polished dollars for his next trip around town.

Course, I might be mistaking him for someone else, but I think it

was him. This tale was told in the book, "blood and money", the

story about John and Joan Hill in river oaks.

MK

devonhart... I just had some home movies converted to DVD, as you must have for this. I would like to add text and music to mine. What software did you use?

I have a lot of film I shot of my kids in the snow in Feb, 1973. I have a lot more film I want to have converted. Who did you use for the conversion, or did you do it yourself?

I also have some video of the 73 snow, taken in Westbury. I converted it to file, but

have never got around to uploading it anywhere..

MK

The cancer has already spread. Divine intervention please! or an exorcism?

Here in my house in Westbury, it seems the same as it's ever been. No one

messes with me. I'll give them a free ventilation service if they bust through

my door. The neighborhood I'm in is no more dangerous than it was in the

70's-80's.. Looks about the same too..

As another note on Westbury Square.. I was reading a book called "hairy legged men"..

Naw, just kidding, it was called "sharp dressed men".. A storybook about ZZ top and

their adventures or maybe misadventures at times... :/

I noticed that ZZ Top was "legally" born at 602 Westbury Square, on June 20, 1969.

Being it's been so long since I wandered through there, I forgot where "602" was..

Fer some reason, I'm thinking in the offices above the old pizza place, but I'm not

sure..

Course, in 1969, ZZ Top was Dan M Mitchell, Bill Gibbons, and Lanier H. Greig jr.

MK

1965 was about the first time I burger kinged. But.. It was the one in Overland Park KS..

And I do remember 35 cent whoppers. When I moved here in 69, I transferred my

burger eating duties to the one on Post Oak. I think Whoppers had gone up to about

55 cents by then. Course, that burger king is long gone. I just went to the burger king

on Fondren/Bellfort tonight. But two whoppers ran me about 5 bucks plus...

Whataburger has also been around quite a while. I think there is one on telephone rd

or therabouts that has been there quite a long time. It was built before the orange

paint scheme they use now if I remember right. I think it had the weird roof angles,

but was mostly white. But.. I might be confused.. Wouldn't be the first time..

MK

That's an amazing photo. You can see the "Domain Privee" on Old Main Street Road. It looks like Westbury Square shopping center has started construction.

Yep, and you can even make out the "star" that is in the yard of Domain Privee. You can also see all the old Meyer Property

pretty well, if thats what I think it is, around where is now Meyer Park. Also a good shot of willow, gasmer back in the older

days. Those two streets are some of the oldest in that area. Gasmer and willow were noted on the old 1942 planning map.

On Willow, you can see houses that line along willow waterhole bayou. When I was going to Westbury in the early 70's,

that one close the the bayou was already a deserted house, falling apart. Most of the area lining gasmer would later

grow up to be pretty thickly wooded. In that pix, pretty bald looking. Course, no Westbury Hi yet, but they had the old

watertower up already. Ditto for the one on W. Bellort near where the Meyer library would end up being. I moved here

in 69, nine years after that pix was taken. By that time, most of the areas had been filled in as far as Meyerland, even

north of the bayou. I don't know what year Chimney Rock was completed past Braeswood, but it must have been in the

earlier 60's. It had all been there a while in 69. Two lane W. Bellfort wasn't completed past Fondren until after I had

moved here. Maybe about 1970 it was done..

Westbury Centerette at W. Bellfort Chimney Rock was one of the first completed shopping centers in Westbury.

The old original sign that has a clock on it is still there, as are most all the original buildings. There has been a

laundrymat in that center ever since I've been here. I bet it was new and existed there in that pix..

On W. Bellfort at that center, there used to be a Exxon for a long time. But in that picture, it almost looks like a

different building was there at that time. It seems to extend closer to Bellfort than all the rest of the buildings

that held the U-totem, barber shop, etc.. But in later years, that exxon gas station building was nearly even with

all the rest of the buildings. Or so I remember anyway.. There was a Baskin Robbins in that center too back then..

Course, in the late 60's, 70's a jack n the box was west of that center. Later to be scrapped and replaced with the

autozone, pizza joint, cell tower, etc.. Too bad you can't see the S. Main golf course, etc.. You can see the bowling

alley on Post Oak. Also seems to be the Post Oak Ranch BarBQ was there too at that time. In 1970, that Bar B Q

was supposed to have already been there at least 30 years.. A friend of mine worked there then. So that would

place it being there in the 40's. I still go there every once in a while when I get the chance. great bar bq...

I'm gonna ask Moses, "the current owner" if he knows what year that place first opened. He probably knows I bet.

He's been there quite a while now himself. But I still remember the old original owner too.

MK

This is freaky - I went to Westbury with Ivy Spain's son. I didn't know him at the time, but 30 years later, his wife went to work at the school where I taught.

Dang...I just put 2+2 together.. I know the Spains too... A friend of mine used to go out with her daughter years ago.."Theresa Spain".

I'm sure it must be the same Spains, as they lived on the corner of Willowbend and Chimney Rock. I didn't live here when that

plane crashed. So far, the "end of Atwell, on the other side of the bayou" seems to be most accurate. Which in the 1960 pix,

would put the crash site on the very right edge of the pix. This pix is facing south. Atwell is the street running n/s that is on the

east side of Parker school. In that pix, Mullins is the last n/s street you can see in that pix. Mullins is on the west side of parker

school. I'd have to look at a modern map, but if Atwell continues north even with the existing street, it's possible the crash site

would barely be in that pix. But it's possible it was just slightly out of it too...Depends how far west the crash was from Atwell.

I imagine what he saw in 1961 was very close to what is in that picture. A few more houses around, but I bet still pretty woody

near the bayou. If the crash was actually near the water of the bayou, the site may now be up on the running trail, or in the street,

of N. Braeswood, or maybe now where the apt's, townhouses, etc are on N. Braes.. I'd be curious to know how many feet or yards

north of the bayou the crash was. I guess there is no sign of it now, even if it plowed a 5 ft crater.. After 40 years, I imagine it's

been filled or plowed over.. If the site was out on public property, I could take my metal detector and see if I hit on any old debris.

They probably got most of it, but there might be a few scraps still there. Of course, I'd feel kinda weird out digging a big hole

out on the bayou banks or N. Braeswood.. :/ Any small pieces left are probably pretty deep by now.

MK

Does anyone remember this plane crash?

I'd never heard about that one, or knew that school was named after the pilot..

What was the exact location of that crash?

I remember a bad crash in 1965 when I lived in Wichita KS. I was in 2nd-3rd grade.

A KC-135 "boeing 707" tanker was fully fueled and just took off from McConnell AFB.

They had engine trouble, "they say a parachute might have got sucked into an engine,

maybe before takeoff."

It went down right into a neighborhood of houses, a scenario much like Herod was

trying to avoid.

With that big jet, they didn't have any control, stalled, and plowed right in.

It was on a Saturday morning, and we were out riding our bikes around.

We were a few miles away, but we could still see the loads of black smoke.

It burned all day long, as I remember my dad took the family over to that street

that night after it was dark, and there was still a lot on fire.

Pretty much the whole street and all the houses were toast. About 20 on the

ground were killed, and 7 crew in the plane.

Biggest plane crash I ever saw, fer sure..

http://www.wichitagov.org/CityOffices/Fire...ory/11/1965.htm

for a few little pix... BTW, they also used KC-135's as AWAC planes too..

NTSB info...

NTSB Identification: Unknown

14 CFR Part 91 General Aviation

Event occurred Saturday, January 16, 1965 in WICHITA, KS

Aircraft: BOEING KC-135, registration: USAF501

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FILE DATE LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT PILOT DATA

F S M/N PURPOSE

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M-0001 65/1/16 WICHITA KANS BOEING KC-135 CR- 7 0 0 *ERROR-INVALID CODE* AGE 35, UNK/NR INSTRUMENT

TIME - 0930 USAF501 PX- 0 0 0 RATED.

DAMAGE-DESTROYED OT- 0 0 0

TYPE OF ACCIDENT PHASE OF OPERATION

COLLISION WITH GROUND/WATER: UNCONTROLLED IN FLIGHT: UNCONTROLLED DESCENT

UNDER INVESTIGATION

EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - FORCED LANDING OFF AIRPORT ON LAND

FIRE AFTER IMPACT

I did a NTSB search on the Houston crash, but no records before 1962...

MK

that is pretty neat to see terry labonte shown driving there..... was 1977 the last year it was open ?

I forgot myself... Seems it was somewhere around that year. They also once

ran a Nascar championship race there I think in the early 70's. If I remember

right, one of the Allisons won that race. I went to Meyer a few times. Of course,

living in Westbury, we could hear the races here at the house every Sat night.

MK

No that riot did not cause Lee to go downhill. It's the surrounding apartments in the Flea Market area that feed into that school. The last time I was there, it was not a good place to be at night!

Did you know that Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top) graduated from Lee? Ron Stone, as well.

He showed up at his high school reunion..There is a web site somewhere that has a

few pix.. I've got them on one of my drives somewhere.. He was decked out in his african

wig as usual.. I've oft speculated that the main reason he wears that thing is that he's

probably going bald... :/

MK

Now that I think about it, I think Gupton was the principal

when I was there. Pepper and Lodge were both assistants.

I think Washington came along when I was a junior and was

a third assistant/coach, or something along those lines.

Hard to believe thats already been 30 years ago..

I just was recording and editing some old 8mm stuff from

the late 60's, early 70s. Some is at surfside, and some

was in Westbury. IE: I've got video of the 1973 snow, and

it was shot on W. Bellfort near Mullins. I still remember that

snow.. I was in 10th grade. It's never even come close to

that snow here since then. I made a appx 4mb clip of that

snow video for online use. I'll try to post it sometime later.

Gotta see if I have that much room left. I may need to

delete some old junk.

MK

I think you mean the nursury and Bar-B-Q that was

on Willowbend just east of the RR tracks. I remember that

Bar B Q place from when we moved here. We went there

a few times, but eventually it burned down. Post Oak Ranch

Bar B Q is still on Post Oak. They have some pretty good

stuff too. PO ranch has been there a long time. Next

time I'm in there, I'll see if anyone knows when if first

opened. I remember the old owner from the 60's-70's,

and then he sold it to a guy named Moses. He was there

probably through the 80's, 90's. I'm not sure, but think Moses

might have recently sold it to someone else, but I'm not sure.

I remember the Willowbend Bar -B Q having loads of

cowboy artifacts hung up in the dining room.. Hummm..

Now that I think about it, I think the Bar B Q land itself

became a nursury.. At the moment, I think it's unused,

but I'd have to double check. I drive by there quite often.

MK