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  1. I remember back in a past life, a friend of mine used to "drive" those little

    trains. This was back around the high school years or so..

    But that was one of his part time jobs way back then.. He was the "engineer"

    and drove the trains, kept the little heathens from killing themselves, etc..

    I don't know if he wore a hat like on the movie "The Jerk" or not..

    The extended bill on those caps could be a lifesaver according to

    Navin R. Johnson.. :lol: :lol:

  2. Sure, ate there a few times. I think the place burned down once, and they might

    have reopened, but then later closed up.. Or.. they burned up and never reopened..

    I forgot what exactly happened. I remember the lot that it was on then became a

    nursery if I remember right.

    I remember they used to have a lot of "old west" type artifacts on the walls, etc.

    I think this was the lot the place was on..

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&...002264&z=19

  3. That's the first I've heard of a Camp Logan cemetery.

    I looked at the key map, and 492M is appx bordered by

    S.Shepherd on the west, Floyd Street to the north,

    W. Dallas to the south, and Waugh/Yale to the east.

    Pretty big area to search using the bird images. :(

    I looked and saw a few places a cemetery could hiding,

    but couldn't really make anything out.

    492M is a good ways to the east from Camp Logan/Memorial

    Park.

  4. Does Anyone have any info or pics on mansions that used to stand in the Sowntown and northern Midtown areas? Most of them are demolished. I know there is a book called Hidden Houston somewhere out there that I can not find.

    I've got pictures of nearly every one of them I think..

    One of the sites had many pictures of them. Baily's ??

    I fergot..

    Here is a few to whet your appetite..

    oh79.jpg

    oh78.jpg

    oh77.jpg

    oh31.jpg

    oh32.jpg

    oh33.jpg

    Loads more where that came from..

    Someone here will probably remember the site all

    those are on.

  5. Took a while to find it, but here's the Bob Bailey aerial of Domain Privee:

    domain.jpg

    Here's the text from the 1995 Bailey calendar photo:

    and here's the direct link at UT's Center for American History:

    Center for American History

    Back in the 70's it was totally overgrown with tall weeds, etc.

    After it was abandoned, people started going there to party, drink beer, etc..

    You see the entrance road.. Later people formed their own road and extended

    the turn to the right to cross the parking lot area in the back, and extend

    on around so it met with the road forming the circle in front of the house.

    So in the 70's, people would be able to drive in and make a complete circle

    without stopping or turning around.

    See the big building behind the house? That had a big swimming pool in it.

    It was still intact when I went there, and at that time probably one of the

    oldest below ground pools I'd seen. I don't know when the place was built.

    But I always found the pool pretty interesting. I didn't know they had pools

    that good, that long ago. It was probably modern and state of the art when

    it was installed.

    I was talking to a friend a while back about the place, and he told me that

    he and a friend of his spent the night there one time.

    He told me while they were there, some other people drove up, so they

    climbed on the roof to see who it was, and also evade detection.

    The people later left, and they went back down into the house to camp out.

    They said that later on that night they were sleeping, and they heard this

    huge crashing noise that woke them up.

    After it got light, they noticed that a section of the roof they had been climbing

    on totally collapsed into the upper rooms of the house. :lol:

    I remember walking around in the house a bit. Most of the rooms had fancy

    red wallpaper, I remember that. There were quite a few rooms, and had an

    upstairs and downstairs. You can see the windows of the upstairs rooms

    sticking out of the roof line.

    I notice in that pix, there seems to be an outdoor pool in front of that

    north building, which I don't even remember when I was there.

    But...I'm fairly sure I remember there being a pool directly behind the

    house, where that big building is.. So if I'm right, they had not one pool,

    but two. One indoors, and one outdoors. Or so it would seem anyway..

    I guess that northern building and pool must have been toast, or covered

    with brush in the 70's, as I don't even remember seeing them.

    But like I say, it was like a jungle, so maybe they were sitting in the brush

    rotting away and we couldn't see em.

    It's all mowed down flat as a pancake now.. But in looking at the sat pix,

    you can still see vague traces of where things once were. Also the property lines

    stick out.

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  6. Here is the big question...What presently stand in its place?

    and was it truly just a Casino? Sometimes the word brothel gets tossed in for intrigue. :lol:

    All that is there now is a field, which is fenced up. I notice on the air views that some

    businesses seem to be moving onto that area and building it up. At as of the most recent

    pix I see, the exact place where the house was is still a vacant lot.

    If you are driving down that road, you can still see the concrete curbs etc that was once

    the entrance.

    Yep, it really was Casino. And only for high rollers. I read somewhere where Carolyn

    Farb was talking about going there as a kid, and meeting movie stars when she would

    come down to eat breakfast in the mornings.. I don't think it was ever a brothel.

    When gambling pressure increased in the 50's, he packed up to Vegas and opened the

    Sands.

    BTW, I believe the Sands was demolished not too long ago..

    As you may have seen in other posts, I'd actually been in the place when it

    was a ramshackle dump in the early 70's.

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  7. I would not be surprised if we crossed paths. I played on the varsity football team in 8th and 9th grade and we won district my 9th grade year. I also played football at Westbury my soph. year and then joined the rodeo team. I use to ride over at Circle 8 arena and at Simington. We spent Friday nights at Fairchilds and the Poney Express Club drinking, dancing and playing pool.

    You said you were in the band, did you know Dave Eichburger when you were at Johnston?

    Pretty sure I did, but I can't hardly remember him.. I also used to

    work with another Eichburger in the late 70's, and he might have been

    related to Dave.. Maybe a brother..

  8. I ran track at Johnston, was the fasted in the 100 and was on the 440 Relay as well which won district every year I was on it. I quite track in the 9th grade after we won district and quailified for reginials because of Macy. He was such an ass. I remember Jeff CURREN AS WELL.

    Heck, I probably know you... :/

  9. Well boys and girls I just ran across this somehow in my quest on the Meyerland shopping center and GCC theatre circa mid 60s. If anyone of you remember the GCC intro here's a video clip that will bring back memories of Saturday afternoon at the Meyerland GC.

    GCC Feature Presentation

    Haven't looked at it yet, but I always liked the snazzy snare drum

    in that thang..

    I was a drummer back then, so I noticed such things..

    I think they used brushes actually to play it..

    I remember seeing 2001 ASO there soon after it came out..

    They also had a thing about video phones in that flick... lol..

    Hard to believe 2001 is now in the past... It seemed like

    light years into the future back in the late 60's, early 70's.

    And even now most don't have video phones, unless they

    are rigged up through the web, etc..

    Never seemed to really catch on.

  10. I use to ride my bike every freaking day to Johnston. Mr. Anderson was the assit. princicaple at the time and everybody used to rag on him because he was also a modle for Sears and he had a picture in the catalog the kids used to hang on the walls at school. Rember coach Ahr, Johnson, Fisher and Coach Walker? Coach Walker was the best.

    Yea.. I remember all that Sears catalog deal with Anderson..

    I remember all those coaches.. I had Walker in the 9th grade

    when he was hired to replace Coach Macy after Macy got in a

    fight with Coach Sanderson and was fired.

    I had Johnson in the 7th grade.. Macy in the 8th..

    I ran cross country and was the 2nd fastest in the school when

    I was there. Only Jeff Curren <sp? could dog my butt with any

    regularity. We won city and state both when I was in 8th and 9th

    grade. But I quit running when I went to Westbury. Spent

    more time with the band.. Didn't have PE at all.. Band was

    my PE at Westbury. At Johnston I had band and PE both..

    I didn't mind not ever having to suit up for gym like most did..

    BTW, Macy also taught me how to drive at his Houston Driving School

    which he co-owned with Coach Hale I think. I fergot.. Hale may have taught

    at Bellaire... I don't remember him being at Johnston for some reason.

    Macy was quite a character... Step on the gas and go! you mickey mouse!

    in that Polish accent he had... And if you didn't , he reach over and stomp on

    that puppy for you if he thought you were too pokey about entering the

    freeway..

    >Then there was good old Westbury. Does anybody remeber we had a smoking area at school. Wow now you can't smoke any where.

    I was there when they started the smoking area. "1973" I used it too... :/

    Along with the restrooms, the football fields, the handball court,

    and any where else I might have wondered..

    >We used to skip class and go to Super-Surf on S. Post oak and shoot pool at lunch or we would go swimming at the sand pits at the end of Fondren. I >had a pretty bad wreck my Sr. year on Willowbend by Johnston splashing the junior high kids after a rain one day.

    >I can remember there was a hamburger place at Westbury Square that had a Mery-Go-Round in it. After the football games we would hang out at the >Pizzia Parlor at Westbury Square.

    Brittains Broiler burger had the merry go round.. I was at the pizza parlor so often

    in the 70's, I probably should have just moved in..

    I never worked there though, although many I knew did.

    I did work at Al Betos, and Bull and Anchor though..

  11. Now if I remember correct there was a hardware store close to the nursery that sold ESTES ROCKETS!! Nothing better than launching some small animal in the invisible payload section from the 50 yard line at Johnston JH. I never cared for the electric engine ignitor. I liked the red dynamite cord that you would cut about 6 inches, light it and move back.

    That was the "Company Store" which was on Gasmer near where the cable co is or was..

    The owner lived down the street from me. Keith Hill was his name if I remember right..

    I remember I used to build up rockets with plastic "Gemini" nose cones

    which you could unscrew and put stuff in.. I used to like to launch lizards into the ether..

  12. No problem, here they are:

    Faculty 60-61

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    Info from 61-62

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    Faculty 61-62

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    Hummm. A lot of those teachers were still there in the 69-72 era.

    Williams was still principal when I was there. Duff sounds real familiar..

    I think he might have been at Westbury when I was there.

    When I was there, a Mr. Anderson was asst. principal.

    He had a real deep voice.. "Peeeoooople" was usually

    one of the first words out of his mouth.

    Quite a few of those teachers were still there in 69-72.

    Some I had forgotten all about.. IE: Mr. Melanson.. I'll never forget

    that guy.. Was real hairy... :/ With a little more, he could

    have been in the Planet of the Apes movies.. lol

    I notice Munson ran the band in those years..

    When I was there, Munson had gone on to Westbury, and

    Ken Mueller was band director. I had Munson when I went on to Westbury.

    I dunno if they had nekkid swimming when I went there. I really can't

    remember, as I didn't go swimming too many times there..

    But.. I don't remember going nekkid, so we must have had suits

    I guess, or I just forgot about it. I was a track and cross country

    boy back then, so I was off running most of the time..

    We won both City and State two years in a row when I was in 8th, 9th

    grade. First under Coach Macy, and then with Coach Walker

    who came in after Macy left, or got fired or whatever..

    I remember Coach Macy and Sanderson got into a fight, and

    Macy was fired I think. :/ I forgot what happened to Sanderson.

    He might have stayed, but I forgot..

    MK

  13. If main ended appx at the bayou, Friedmans gambling joint must have been out

    in the boondocks for the time. It was on Old Main just west of 90. Course, by the 50's,

    I guess with the various motels, etc, Main filled out a bit south of the bayou.

    I'd like to see any pix of the gambling joint, if you can ever make some scans..

    I wish I had paid more attention to it the couple or three times I walked around

    in it, but at the time, I didn't know much about the history of it..

    It's funny. Just the other day I was talking to a friend of mine that spent the night

    there one time. He said some other people showed up, and they climbed on the roof

    to check them out. Later after they left, they went back downstairs into the house

    and hit the sack. A few hours later they woke to a huge crashing noise.

    The roof that they had been walking around on earlier had caved in... :(

    I still remember that a lot of the rooms had fancy red velvet looking wall paper,

    and there were quite a few rooms. I thought the neatest part was the old swimming

    pool. You could tell by looking at it, it was an old swimming pool.. Maybe from

    the late 30's, 40's.. I forgot when the place opened, but offhand I'm thinking

    it was the late 30's. He moved to the Sands in Vegas before the middle of the 50's

    I think mainly due to local gambling pressure. I've read you had to be a pretty high

    roller to even get in the place. Caroline Farb has said she remembers a lot of

    movie stars, etc that used to be there when she came to visit. I think one part I read

    said she would go down to eat breakfast, and a big shot like say an Errol Flynn, or

    Clark Gable might be sitting at the table eating also.. :/ Or sumtin like that..

    MK

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  14. Mclendon Triple was by far the most visited one for us. It was a long drive but that was part of the fun. Telephone Road Drive-In and Gulfway were 2/3rd choice. The real fun was meeting other kids from those parts of the city. Normal teenage stuff but fun.

    It was basically a party every monday night for us around the high school

    years. That was dollar night. And even then, half the time people would be

    hiding in trunks sneaking in.

    No one really watched the movies too close. We were too busy walking from

    car to car checking out the action. :) Most sat out in lawn chairs, etc..

    Basically a big tailgate party..

    MK

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  15. I forgot that it was open as late as 73.. I've sure I've probably been

    there when we first moved here, but for some reason I don't really

    remember too much about the place. When McClendon triple opened,

    I think we always went there instead. And that would make sense if

    South Main starting showing porno flicks at that time..

    I remember the Golf Course across the street better than I do that

    drive in for some reason. I worked as a caddy at that course a

    few times, and played on it a few times too.

    I guess McClendon triple and Southmain were open at the same

    time for a short while, as I seem to remember triple opening

    pretty early in the 70's. I was there the opening night and I'm

    sure I was still in Jr. Hi.. So that would be no later than 72-73.

    MK

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  16. Chuck Wagon Alumni Representing!

    I worked there back in '76. The same Richard Warren was there. This was my first real job. I had the glamorous task of mopping, taking out the trash, etc. for about $1.50 per hour. Couldn't work in the grill or behind the counter. This was back when a 12-year-old could actually get some semblance of work and, of course, minimum wage rules didn't apply. As I recall, Baskin-Robbins was paying 1.25/hour at the time for 14 year olds.

    On a side trip, the Kroger across the street had a deal where coupons were given out for carts that were returned from the lot. There were little books we could fill up. Fifty coupons could be exchanged for one dollar and this was another job of sorts I had to make spending money at that age.

    Bissonnet was fairly built up in that area by that time.

    That must have been the one I went to sometimes.. I knew I'd been to a chuckwagon,

    but I totally forgot where it was.. :/ I just generally remember it being semi near

    the Southwest freeway for some reason, so that was probably it I guess..

    We went to it when I was working one of my first jobs.. Soliciting for the Houston Post..

    We'd all go to chuckwagon before we hit the streets after school.

    Needless to say, I didn't last too long at that job. I hate sales... Not to mention

    I hated knocking on peoples doors and bugging them, etc.. And most already

    took it, or didn't want it.. I was probably lucky to clear enough to pay for going

    to chuckwagon before starting work.. :( I'm fairly sure I was still in jr high at

    that time. Maybe 9th grade or so..

    MK

  17. I found my big brothers Boy Scout handbook the other day and wondered if there was a topic here, if there is go ahead an merge.

    My bro was a scout around 1967 and I barely remember going with him and mom to the meetings. We have just a few pics of them in some sort of silly play. My bro would die of embarassment if I ever showed them but if any one was memories to share like where your specific group was located and especially if you have old photos to show. That would be great!

    Can anyone still recite the oath? What about small tokens or items of interest while you were a member?

    Oh yes, and if anyone knew anyone in the Girl Scouts or Brownies too join in!

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    Yea, I was a cub scout, and then a boy scout. Both in Kansas, and then here in Houston.

    We used the scout house which was at the park next to Parker Elementary School.

    "Appx Mullins and Willowbend". It's been so long, I forgot what our number was..

    I think I made it to "Star" if I remember right, never made Eagle..

    Myself, I always liked the camping, but was not much on merit badges, etc..

    To this day, if I'm out camping with people, I'm usually the one that starts the

    fires... :/ I could always start a fire with just one match.. We used to practice

    that all the time.

    I never had the patience to use flint, etc though.. :(

    I'd been to Strake a few times. We used to have one up in Kansas we went

    to also, but I'm forgetting the name offhand..

    I remember once up in Kansas I was at a campout, and our site got hit

    by a tornado. We were all in the usual army style tents.. I remember

    watching our coleman stove which was on a stand fly away, never to be

    seen again. Then the sides of the tent starting flapping, whoop, whoop, whoop,

    and I thought it was gonna go too, but it finally passed over and we were left

    intact. No one was hurt, but all the parents were called, and we went home

    early.

    We also used to camp in the winter too. I remember once it was 5 below zero,

    heavy snow, etc.. We came through ok, but I remember my feet almost freezing

    off about 5 am in the morning.. I had to get up early to warm them up..

    Naturally, I restarted the fire myself being I got up first...

    It had just enough buried coals from the night before that I was able to relight it

    with only kindling.

    I remember one time at Strake , some of the scoutmasters brought their rifles,

    guns, etc to give a show and tell about firearm safety..

    We had some kind of safe back drop or whatever they were shooting into.

    They were actually shooting big elephant rifles out there.. BOOOOOOMMM!!!!

    Overall, I remember my scout days as generally being pretty fun.

    BTW, as far as I know, that parker school scouthouse is still there. At least

    it was the last time I looked.

    Also..That scout manual looks kinda old.. Older than 67 unless I'm confused..

    I had one about that time, or close, and seems mine looked different, and

    maybe more modern.. Been a long time though.. They also had the magazine

    "Boys Life" or whatever it was that they sent out about every month.

    MK

  18. Does anyone remember that hamburger joint next to Westbury Square? It had a carousel in the middle of the restaurant.. It went really slow, and the animals on the carousel all had trays on them, so kids could sit on the animals and eat their hamburgers..this would have been around 1968..

    Brittains broiler burger.. It was on the corner in the same place as the closed tape rental place, and at one

    time, after broiler burger left, it was a churches chicken joint.

    I used to go to broiler burger all the time. In fact, I think I still remember my usual order.. A #5 I think

    it was... Was a burger with Bar-B-Q sauce on it... Pretty good...

    I also went to the churches quite a bit when it first opened up. I think that corner building is vacant

    at the moment, but I'd have to look closer.

    MK

  19. This would have been in 1947 or so...WAAAAYYYY before my time. LOL

    This wasn't some reference to the Confederate Airforce...alledgedly back in '47 there were some planes of some kind (ww2 models) parked over off S Main somewhere...

    Disastro

    I believe you. I'm well aware of the CAF..They didn't exist in 1947... I've also read of them storing many old

    planes over by Ellington field back about that time. Back then, they probably had them sitting all over the place

    until they got around to selling them, or scrapping them out. The country churned out a lot of aircraft during ww2.

    Lots of boats, etc also. Many of the old planes were sold to other countries, individuals, etc. Some were kept

    in service through the Korean war period.. IE: They flew P-51 Mustangs up through the Korean war, and many

    other countries bought our old planes to use in their air forces. Usually fairly meager compared to ours..

    I think they flew some B-29's etc up through the 50's. The ww2 era planes I've seen in old pix of Sam Houston

    were likely bought by individuals, ex ww2 pilots, etc.

    MK

  20. Even the B-29 was pretty good sized.. As far as the ones oft used in Europe, would be

    the B-17, B-24, B-25, etc.. The B-36 was huge.. My uncle used to fly those things in

    the 50's. The B-29's stick out due to their nose look.. Quite a bit different than the

    others.. I'm not sure which area was actually the South Main drive in during that

    period.. I thought it was fairly close to OST. Where as Sam Houston was across the

    street from where Butler stadium is now.. For some reason, I don't think they would

    have been at Sam Houston, unless whatever people there might have owned them.

    I have seen WW2 aircraft parked in pictures of Sam Houston, but not on any big

    scale like a storage area for bombers.

    MK

  21. The funny thing is that his story of giving Hughes a ride in the desert and taking him to his hotel in Las Vegas could well be true. Hughes was an obsessively strange man known for doing strange things and turning up in strange places at strange times. It's Dummar's claim that Hughes promised him 156 million dollars out of gratitude that had the judges rolling in the aisles. But, then again.........

    It wouldn't surprise me if the ride part was true. Like you say, Hughes would get an idea in his head to do something, and

    no one could tell him otherwise.. He ruled his roost, with the exception of being so out of it physically that he couldn't even

    hardly go out on the street without attracting a lot of attention. I read a pretty good book on him, and his later life, but

    I can't remember the name offhand. Much was written by the people that took care of him, and I think most was fairly

    factual. He would get an idea in his head, and there was pretty much no stopping him if he decided that was what he was

    going to do. One example was flying.. In his later raggedy years, at one point he decided he wanted to go fly again.

    So he had his cronies round up a learjet, and they had to find an extra pilot, which they did.

    But they got him into the plane, and he could hardly fly the thing. I think they did cruise around the country for a while,

    but the "co-pilot" had to do most of the actual flying. Just the secretive ways he would do things was worth a book in

    itself.. IE: He would make the pilots stand outside when boarding, so they couldn't see him..

    I guess he assumed they wouldn't recognize him once he decided to crawl into the cockpit... :/

    Of course, everyone knows about his problems dealing with germs.. But he was also quirky about his food..

    He would decide he would want something like say chicken soup.. Then he might eat nothing but chicken soup

    for the next three months.. Then finally one day they would bring the same soup in, and he would finally decide on

    something else. Which he would then usually eat it for the next three months.

    He would sit in his darkened room and watch movies nearly 24/7.. Ice station zebra was one of his fav's.. He could

    watch it over and over and over again..

    I wish I had that book handy so I could remember more tidbits.. Anyway, that book gave most of the behind the

    scenes details of his everyday life, including all the hassles of moving from here to there, country to country.

    It was often like a 3 ring circus, with all the secrecy involved. The book also included the details of the last

    trip to Houston. He was so far gone at that point, he probably didn't even know he was in a jet..

    Most seem to think it was about 1960 when he started getting really weird.. The TWA thing he had went through

    evidentally put of a lot of strain on him, and something snapped a bit, and he turned reclusive..

    But anyway, he did quite a few things in his life to earn his way into the history books. Just the aviation stuff

    was pretty notable. And I think thats where his heart really was until the end. He sat in his bed, and dreamed

    of flying airplanes, etc.. And like I say, sometimes he acted on the impulses, even though it was a major ordeal

    for him to do so. But he had so many "yes men" around him, he could pull it off.

    So it wouldn't surprise me at all that he would decide to go ride a motorcycle. And wrecking it sounds about

    par for the course, considering his condition.. But giving away 156 mil.. Why 156? Why not an even 150 mil?

    It's the "odd" number which makes me think that part is hogwash.. But then again, you never know.. I don't

    think anyone ever will for sure. Of course, to HRH, 156 mil was chump change...

    MK

  22. I found it interesting that the soldier who took all those photos mentioned, in one of his letters home, catching horned toads in the Memorial Park area. We used to find horned toads when we went dewberry picking in SW Houston in the 60s. I wonder when horned toads disappeared from the Houston area and where is their closest habitant now.

    Dunno. Thats a pretty good question. I remember when I lived in Dallas as a young kid, I saw

    them all the time. They ran around the backyard, and I used to catch loads of em..

    I've lived here since 1969, and I can't remember if I've ever seen one here or not..

    Maybe one or two a long time ago, but they are rare for sure.

    I often wonder how the areas north of here are holding up as far as those.

    IE: Does Dallas still have em? I know they used to have loads of them.

    One thing interesting...This past weekend I took a drive out west to a friend

    of mines property. He has 8 acres near Cistern Tx, which is in Fayette<sp?> county.

    When we were there, my friend mentioned that his son found one there recently.

    So, I guess there are still a few out in the boonies.

    I remember in Oklahoma they used to have quite a few there also, and ditto for

    many sections of AR.

    They were quite common around Roff, OK, where my grandmother used to live.

    That is near Ada. Also it seems I used to see them in Hot Springs, AR at my

    other grandparents. Not sure how they held up there.

    I recently bought 5 acres on Lake Eufaula in OK, and I've been up there clearing

    some downed trees, brush, etc, but haven't seen one there yet. But I haven't had

    that place too long, so the jury is still out.. Lots of critters on that property though..

    I wonder how pollution factors into all this vs clearing of habitat..

    Note the absence of lightning bugs in this area.. I'm fairly sure they were natural

    to this area, but you rarely see them now. Most sources claim air pollution is

    the main reason for those dwindling away. The reason I question clearing of

    habitat, is they had loads of them in out our residential area of Dallas in the 50's..

    The houses, etc didn't seem to bother them then.. So I wonder if it is something

    with the air quality.

    Quite a few lightning bugs up at Lake Eufaula..I saw them as early as April this

    year, when it was still on the cool side.

    MK

  23. Yes, I was going by the topo map - thank you for setting me straight. I see where the barracks were now. But then what are all those black rectangles in the lower center area of the topo map? A few of them are also on your map in the same geographical location, though not as many.

    Niche and RedScare - good info.

    They are all buildings, houses, but I'm not sure what would have been there in 1922.

    The camp hospital seems to be in that area, but not sure what happened to the buildings

    after the war was over. Looks like they built more in that area.

    I don't think it was actually a park until 1925, which would be three years after that

    topo map was drawn.

    MK

  24. That is some pretty impressive research. Where did you find the map?

    I compared it with a KeyMap, and it appears that that cluster of black rectangles in the lower center of the map (which I assume are the barracks) would cover the present day streets of Terrace, East Cowan, and West Cowan, which are just to the north of Memorial Dr. and just outside of the present day park. So it would seem that the barracks of Camp Logan were not actually in Memorial Park.

    Other interesting features of that map are the Shepherd bridge in the lower right corner (I think there was also a dam there), and opposite the bayou from the two southernmost-extending streets of the Military Addition is present day Bayou Bend.

    Question: do those tributaries, or "fingers," of the bayou still exist? It seems like if they did at least a few of them would cross Memorial, and I don't recall any bridges along there.

    >I compared it with a KeyMap, and it appears that that cluster of black rectangles in the lower center of the map (which I assume are the barracks) would cover the present day streets of >Terrace, East Cowan, and West Cowan, which are just to the north of Memorial Dr. and just outside of the present day park. So it would seem that the barracks of Camp Logan were not >actually in Memorial Park.

    Are you going by the color topo map above? I think that was in 1922 when Camp Logan was gone. None of the barracks

    are in that picture that I can see. Many of the barracks were inside what is now the park. Both north, and south of

    Memorial.

    Here is the drawing of the camp with the pieces put together. North is up.

    logan1.jpg

    MK

  25. This is an interesting thread, and the images are fascinating. On one of the park's bike trails south of Memorial, you can see several old building foundations in the middle of the woods. I have often wondered if these were remnants of some of the Camp Logan buildings. Does anyone know anything about these?

    I'm pretty sure most do date from Camp Logan. What I like about the map, is I can actually see

    fairly close what parts of the park they actually camped in. I never knew for sure until I saw

    that map. They had them lined up on the straight entrance to the park, and also back a bit

    to the east. But it looks like the bulk of the camp was north of what is now memorial.

    All the training grounds, barracks, etc... Most of that is golf course now I guess.

    MK

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