astros148

our next mayor i doubt has that thought

the city has potential which is the frustrating thing

You've misunderstood. I didn't say Market Square should be a retail hub...I said Dallas Street is the hub and Market Square retail something different...more organic retail, nonetheless.

imagine if we had a covent garden market type that is in london on that side of town.

I think you're both right: both Dallas Street and Market Square will support great retail...just different kinds. Dallas Street is poised for big-box and high-street retail a la Michigan Avenue, whereas Market Square is geared more toward organic retail a la 14th St./Union Square NYC, with its surrounding gfr and locally sourced produce/flowers/baked goods/crafts, vendor carts/stands, etc. throughout the square.

Market square is not a retail hub and will never be. Stop fooling yourself, it would be a great spot for a small grocery store but its a nightlife area. Its where you go to get a drink or want to hit up a night spot. Theres huge differences between the two, your retail hub needs to be greenstreet. Its made for retail, it has great train access from two separate lines, the city pushed for this hotel nd they are redoing the entire Dallas street.

Greenstreet NEEDS to work for CBD retail future.

Who guys, chill out. Astro's got facts.

I know alot of the HPD police officers who work the downtown area esp the Main street corridor. My friend is a bicycle cop during the day and my other buddy is one of the sergeants in downtown and he tells me they have ZERO protocool to really deal with them, and hes just as frustrated. He tells me that he knows all the people by name now and its frustrating because the handcuffs that are placed by him. He tells me storys of where bums have stolen 20 bucks from walking girls and how they badly they've freaked out and have vowed to never come to downtown again. just bad pr and just all kinds of shit. theres a serious problem with the panhandlers and we need to address it.

This needs to come from the mayors office, this isnt HPD fault

go to the bell station nd hangout there for couple minutes on any given evening or day and you'll even see what im talking about there. You'll see fights in the parking lot adjacent, you'll see people with legit issues causing havoc at the stations and dont get me started on the "central" station stop. Theres legit people out there who need help who have psy problems, i fully understand that. I own a Medical business and work with a bunch of Psy clinics and partial hospital programs and if they have problems then we need to definitely give them whatever help we can and we're failing as a city by not issueing that help.

BUT im not talking about the people who have schizoaffective, type 1 bipolar or who have manic episodes, im talking about the pill pushers and drug addicts that make up the large portion of main street. It is very very uncomfortable for a family to be walking down those blocks, and yes we all know all downtowns have bums but that part is EXTREMELY BAD. If you want to make Greenstreet a retail hub you gotta tackle the homeless population there. its a simple fact, you think some chick is going spend a thousand dollars at a retail store and wanna be harrased by people the second she walks out? Cmon guys jesus get real with yourselves.

Its a problem that we as a city have just put on the rear mirror and pretend doesnt exist. its time to get real with ourselves

Agreed. This is not rocket science...how many damn dumbass studies do these old farts need? Along Dallas Street: convert the old Sakowitz building into a Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's with luxe hotel/office/resi above, also add a Macy's (with resi/hotel/office above) and gfr/restaurants all along Dallas Street...push play. Very simple. Or they should take a field trip to Michigan Avenue in Chicago and take notes...then come back to Dallas Street and do something similar. Very simple. Anything less than that for a city/CBD the size of Houston is a big fat flop. All it takes is leadership, but Houston misses the mark on CBD retail leadership.

yup hit the nail on the head, i have friends who come in from chicago and even philly and they say thats their biggest complaint. can you imagine if we actually had a retail hub at greenstreet and that the Sakowitz building would be renovated into a major retailer. Imaging having a mini city centere like in downtown, man that would truly be awesome.

Have you not walked downtown lately? There's activity all over Main Street and Market Square. Green street won't make or break the success of downtown.

You're also forgetting Lovett's plans for the Post Office site, though that's been a little quiet lately.

Yes i live in downtown, and lets not get carried away with ourselves with theres activity all over Main street. it is the holiday season, but theres no "activity" on main street after 8pm. Its a bunch of pan handlers hanging by the store, i ve heard ALOT of visitors who stayed at the JW marriot that they were uncomfortable with the amount of them right across the street.

Anyways thats beyond the point, this is the final straw for greenstreet with the city pumping so much money into it and with the new hotel, this HAS TO WORK for downtown.

Give me a effin break with this holiday spirit bs. It is a legitimate problem when i take a stroll on main with my gf and i see groups of street bums doing drugs and HARRASING walling people for money. Some will follow you for half a block or so before they leave you alone and its dangerous plain and simple. Everyone on this forum all they ever talk about is density this and that but without solving the homeless population you won't have a lively walkability and that's a fact

I love how its the "occasional" pan handler. As a downtown resident anyone will tell you its way beyond occasional so give me a effin break. You will get harrased walking down main after 7pm, you think anyone walking with their kids would want that shit. The people that say the street population isnt a peoblem arent downtown residents.

Its fkin awful

With the city spending so much to renovate Dallas and the huge task force that did numerous case studies and said how important Greenstrert is numerous times.

If greenstreet flops it's bad for downtown houston plain and simple. Market square isnt going be a hotbed for retail, maybe theyll land a grocery store but that's the most that'll happen

heard they had a deal with sephora but they backed out.....i really hope this doesnt become a flop. if greenstreet fails after all this renvo and boost then we can almost kiss retail in downtown bye.

greenstreet sucess is so vital

just gotta do something about the homeless population around main st, that looks really bad to visitors and it makes it awful to walk on after 7pm. Setting up more shelters would be a good start, looks like the churches do most of the work now

so we're at about 1% of the total cost so far.

and they cant go downtown. yeah right

yeah i want a framed copy. holy shit could you imagine if the cheveron tower actually got built and when we get 609 main done how awesome that frame would look. priceless

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/22630028333/in/album-72157660882028929/

their entire album is so sick

i will be inviting everyone here and you have my word on it!  The views on the rooftop are going to be awesome! Anyone know how I can get in contact with their leasing office?

mrs jackson was the one who made this happened my sources tell me. Everyone needs to send her a thank you letter

what a freaking disaster

looks nice!!!

im really thinking about signing up for a lease here. they said rent would start off at 1800 for a studio im guessing, but usually theres always one month free or something offers. I cant wait to actually see the prices come out. Im guessing with the current oil slump I may actually be able to get a deal under 2k.

Why do they keep teasing us like this, is not fair

Move it to NW mall that's where all the cool transport companies are moving these days

what a epic post

pierce elevated needs to get demolished, think it would solve the big greyhound issue as well with all the hobos.

Yes i understand what medicare is lol. I own a medical equipment business and get referrals from case workers from this hospital for hospice/home health patients as well. Everyone at the hospital is shit scared because without their medical number they will go down under. If this gets shut down this will be REALLY REALLY bad for houston. Camridge hospital in medical center shut down and that was the other psy hospital and if this gets closed down, oh boy it will be BAD.