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There's a black and white video of this July '77 Ramones performance floating around among collectors that I've seen. It's awesome.

I found this in one of my boxes of stuff that I never threw away. We are coming up on the 30th anniversary of this show.

I was a Boy Scout at the South Main Baptist Church troop from '69 to '71. The head of the troop was Ralph Mills.

Every year our patrol would compete against against other patrols in a large Houston area scouting competition called Camporee (I think). It involved basic scouting skills like knot tying, etc. It was held at a scout campground somewhere right outside town.

Anyone remember these competitions? I may have the name for them wrong...

Did you know a guy from those Catacomb days named Stephen Hammond?

I interviewed him for my 1960s Texas Music website here.

Anytime. There was a serious folk presence here at the same time. I remember watching my older brother play at places like The Jester, The Bird Cage, La Maison, Sand Mountain, La Bodega, etc. with C(addo) P(arish) Studdard, Scott Stripling, Lightnin' Hopkins, Doug Saum (later Sir Douglas Quintet and The Uranium Savages).

No one has mentioned Jim Scruggs and his poster store Dirty Jim's Dry Goods in Market Square.

I've got a great story about having a pre-Christmas dinner with all the Texas musicians in the San Francisco Bay area one year, all 11 of them from Hot Tuna, Tower of Power, Van Morrison, Jefferson Starship, etc. Better make a new thread, huh?

I wouldn't be too quick to judge this change. The model of combining middle with high school kids under one building is getting popular nationwide and some of the results are favorable.

Anyone remember a bar/restaurant in Montrose around '73-'75 called Ebeneezers? They used to serve me wine there when I was 16.

Please post them. Check out the ones I've got on flickr here. There are several from the Family Hand, etc.

Hey, there. I can scan that flyer... & others... but didn't want to post something that mighta been copywritten. ???

I have several flyers: Let me see what I can get going. I even found a couple of books of matches from Family Hand...

Who is this um, elderly woman in the mirror, staring back at me?... ???

I saw Tuff Darts (from NYC) play in Denver in the spring of '78. They were touring to support their LP on Sire.

My guess is they must have played at Liberty Hall around that same time.

trying to remember that e-mail. Actually Roy Heinrich states that he was in the first punk band in Texas.. maybe not opening at the FIRST punk show in Houston.. but they did open for Tuff Darts and it was at Liberty Hall.. around the mid 70's.. maybe 1977?

I looked at that link and further down on the page it also listed Channel 23 KTVP, Houston TX. Never heard of it either. There's also Channel 29, KXYZ. Never heard of it. (KXYZ was the original callsign for Channel 13). Finally, Channel 39, KNUZ, which I do know about and was the actual DuMont affiliate in Houston for a breif period in the 1950s.

Channel 16 was the second UHF station for Houston after 39. But whereas 39 was able to stay afloat in it's early years, 16 was not and dissapeared relatively quickly.

As a side note does anywone remember which UHF station began broadcasting Texas Ranger baseball games in Houston in the early 70s (it wasn't 16 I don't think)? For several years you had a nightly Rangers baseball game on TV in Houston and about only about one Astro game per month televised on Sundays!

Anyone been to Cleburne Cafeteria on Bissonet? I've never been there but have heard for years it's excellent. I don't think it's a chain of restaurants so maybe you can't compare it to the others mentioned here.

You've got a great site with some cools scans. I'll add a link to it from my site...

1960s Texas Music

I used to hang out at Damian's a lot. It was right behind the River Oaks Theater. It's where I mastered the game of Pong!

Trying to get my own memories of Houston in the 60's and 70's up on my web site, especially the music scene:

http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~tannahil/index.html

Yes, there was a Hamburgers by Gourmet on Kirby. I

Class of '75 Lee grad here...when did it really start to go downhill?...when did they change the name?

Is it now zoned for Gulfton?

...and the Al Ray didn't close in '64 as I saw films there as late as '69. Interesting thread about it on this board here.

Not sure how far I'd trust that list. Very first thing on it is wrong. The Airline theatre opened in either 1949 or 1950 (most likely 1950), not 1955. I've seen ads for it going back that far. So if it's wrong on the first item, who knows what else may be in error.

Well, actually, I do. The Greens Crossing theatre opened in 1985, not 1990. And Deauville on the North Freeway opened in 1975, not 1990.

Oh well... it's a nice starting place for research.

He's still gigging all over Texas.

Look for him to perform in February at the Gulf Coast Hall of Fame Show in Port Arthur.

http://www.panews.com/communities/local_story_360114821.html

Believe it or not, I found a website that says he was singing at a little honky tonk on I-45 up north of Conroe as recently as April of 2003.

Check it out. http://www.thebulletin.com/archives/2003/april/royhead.htm

And Johnny Lee is still out there singing and recording. These days he can be found in Branson Missouri most of the time. He doesn't have his own theater. I'm sure he sings at Mickey Gilley's Theater and other venues.

Here's a link to his fan club. http://www.johnnyleefanclub.com/news.htm

Roy in Port Arthur

Houston Blacklight and Poster Co.

peel off sticker

business card

Thanks for this. When did this article appear in the Post? There was also a jazz club down there in the early 70s called La Bastille.

I remember driving down to Old Market Square while in high school during the spring of '75 and the hippie scene was basically gone. Interesting that it came and went so quickly...

This was the HISD following the federal mandate of forced public school integration? Some cities responded to the mandate more quickly than others. In Boston I think there were riots about this - - the forced busing. Some cities just ignored it.

I was a student at TH Rogers Jr. High at the time and the demographics of the school changed significantly from '70 to '71. Many more black students and teachers in '71. I have no idea what part of town they were bussed in from.

Did anybody else get caught up in this in 1970? The board, probably fearing a mandate for federal forced busing, gerrymandered the high school districts and even if you were a senior, you had to attend the school in your new district. If you were a senior, though, any position or honor you'd gotten back at the old school had to be given to you at the new one. Therefore, Milby had a ton of cheerleaders that year and it seems that Jones had only 4. Many schools had double heads of pep squads, multiple football captains (before that became the norm), you name it. Our family was redistricted from Sterling to Milby and fed up with it all, I graduated from high school after my junior year.

The policy caused all kinds of problems. Many families moved or at least rented apartments in the old district so their kids could attend school with their old friends. HISD was then in the position of having to try to find out who was lying and they did, too...many students were "outed" and sent forcibly to their new schools. There was white flight and black flight.

Within maybe 5 years, the whole composition of HISD had changed. Many families simply moved outside HISD (to Pearland, Alvin, etc.) and re-established their lives there. When I think of "policy failure", I'll always remember that horrendous HISD one.

did the source say whether the work had been publicly displayed?

In a way yes, because you can view the work on his very public website here:

http://zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografo...as/default.html

I ran the story of the Poe tragedy by a long time Houstonian who remembered it and she recalls reading in Time magazine the week after it happened that the man's son was the offspring of an insestious relationship the father had with this daughter. Anyone else know anything about that?

Great pics bookman thanks.

I graduated from both T. H. Rogers and Robert E. Lee ('69-'75) and this is the first I've ever heard of a Randy Harvey getting killed. Anymore details?

And was being a student at Lee in the 70s that bad?..a "living hell"? I had friends when I was in high school that went to Westbury, Milby, and Lamar and from what they told be about their schools it was just like Lee. Sure being in a graduating class of over 600 students sucked. Thanks to Houston's urban sprawl kids from so many neighborhoods/areas went to the school. A kid from Tanglewood had classmates from Dairy Ashford...they might as well have lived in different towns. You NEVER saw them after school around town.

The student body of Lee in the early-mid 1970s was divided into the groups kickers, freaks, jets, and the always present nerds/geeks. Maybe it was a different scene at privates like Kinkaid or St. Johns back then but I'm sure it was the same at all of the west side high schools (Sharpestown, etc.). This was the day when there were much fewer private schools in Houston.

1968- that must have been the year that the first addition was completed because, in the picture above, the lawn on the east front looks newly planted. HISD did a great job matching the new wing with the ugliness of the original building. You can hardly tell the difference. Then they added more on about 15 years later and it too is ugly. That school did not have one interesting feature or pleasant space.

Many of the students took drugs to avoid some of the pain of the living hell that was life at Lee. Was this drug riot when the T. H. Rogers 9th grade student was killed with the baseball bat? His name was Randy Harvey and I think he had gone over to visit Lee when it happened. A terrible, terrible place and time.

These were given away by Houston station KAUM in around '72. I used to have this also except it was a full sized wall poster. It picked it up a record store in Sharpstown mall for free. They also had bumperstickers and apparently 5x8 cards.

I never knew what these cards were for. Postcards? The original is 5x8.

My father grew up in the Montrose area in the 20s and 30s. He attended Montrose Elementary, Sidney Lanier Junior High, and San Jacinto High School. He often told me stories of spending 25 cents (or "two bits" as he called it) to take the trolley car downtown on Saturdays to see a movie and get a hotdog at James Original Coney Island.

I believe the only one of those schools left that is still open under that name would be Lanier.

I'm familiar with the Montrose area's emergence in the early-70s as the "hippie" and gay community of the city but can anyone comment on what the neighborhood was like in the late-50s to early-60s? Was there ever a beatnik community there?

Montrose Elementary was built in 1913, in the block bounded by Stanford, W. Main, Sulross, and Greeley. Don't know when it closed, but the High School for the Visual and Performing Arts was built on its former site in 1971. This info from a friend who attended Montrose in the 40's.

Just out of curiosity, why do you ask?

FreakyDude try viewing them as a flickr slideshow...

Dude, chill out. Too many pics in one thread. Start a new one so we can continue to enjoy them.

Thanks,

FOD

this one thanks!

What's the history of Montrose Elementary School? When did it open/close and is the building still there?

I've assembled these in an online slideshow. It's a cool way to view them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/76262968@N00/show/

or you can link to it from the 60s Texas Music site

http://go.to/texasmusic