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I would prefer the non fortress, but advocating for forced ground floor retail seems very un Texan and extremely un Houston.

I would prefer the non fortress, but advocating for forced ground floor retail seems very un Texan and extremely un Houston.

I think we can all agree anything but the two vacant blocks is a net positive for this side of Midtown. I struggle to accept why the GFR crowd needs it to be on the ground floor of every residential project. I get the allure , I get what kind of streetscape it provides but I don't know how you could look at this project, next to the bum infested greyhound station, a few blocks from the shadiest Mccidikkies in Houston and pronounce that it's a damn shame there is no GFR. I haven't ranted for a while , this feels good! I want @MarathonMan to pretend you are the developer, go spend an hour at the McDonald's parking lot, then picture those zombies all around your vacant GFR space two blocks East and you now know why the developer didn't decide to put the space in the first place. There is plenty of vacant and filled retail a few blocks East https://www.google.com/maps/place/2117+Chenevert+St,+Houston,+TX+77003/@29.7441786,-95.3648786,3a,75y,129.25h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sme-XxYxsSCboEsMpAHMp5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8640bf10d2829d87:0x210a015cef4f4004!8m2!3d29.7439049!4d-95.3645547 Free market economy, when the area demands it GFR will come or likely come next door in a strip mall of other form.

I guess they could have been prepping for demo but caught at that light coming off 59 - they looked like they were prying fake shit off the walls like sears in midtown - taking the faux stone work off im confused - will see what’s up next week

Doesn't appear to be a knock down - what's going in here? I am confused I know there are those cheesy apartments but I thought those were a block north?

This one is getting very tall. It was tough to predict how big it would look because the lower floors blended and couldn't get a good count. I will send a pic from my driveway but this one is going to stand out big time in the neighborhood!

Where is this?

yall herbivores need to take this conversation off line. lol

This thread needs to get nuked! I was trolling with my Applebees comment, off course there are urban Applebee's there are a lot more in towns like Onalaska, WI. I think I speak for a lot of HAIF'ers when I conclude downtown is coming along at a pretty good pace compared to just a few years ago. The incentives actually worked, which many here including myself were skeptical. Development comes in waves, we have our apartment wave DT now, it's filling up give it a little time, let some density settle in and the market will drive retail and more food options. Gasp maybe a family or two will sneak in.. Then the next wave will be these people that like living downtown but want to own something, hopefully more Marlowe's or Theodore's or whatever named condos will pop up and you have a new wave of development. My name says it; I grew up in Chicago and all things considered I would rather live here in Houston. Our urban DT living is not where Chicago is currently but I like where we are heading.

A nice urban Aplebee’s would bring in the Famalies. put it right in the middle with parking all around. I can smell the ribs now !

My fam and I ate at Cafe Saigon vietcajun crawfish over the weekend - walked to the park after this part of midtown is gonna be so different soon. maybe the crime stoppers building can even take down their fenced in park in a few years ! Armed seal security was working hard patrolling the new park on golf carts - no bums anywhere to be seen.

I guess this is the market naturally finding the best use of things. I was initally dismayed in my hood that a key block was going to become a strip center in Montrose, but then I have to remember it won't last forever, just no foresight. Very interesting!~

No pool ?? Ha they missed the mark on this one. For 2.0 mil you could grab a nice huge, better finished mansion with a big pool... They are nuts on this one. @jgriff @KinkaidAlum

Creme de la Creme daycare is over there and is truly a bustling spot. 300 kids from newborns to preschool and run like a machine, now it costs about the same as college tuition but hey! They do have two uniformed armed constables at all times for security and traffic control.