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  1. Hello, Vintage West Houston here- I made a recent visit to the country store on 12/27/21 and happened upon two gentlemen working amongst the rubble and tree cutting. They let me snoop around and take some photos. I hope they can save the main building if nothing else. What really made me sick was that Studebaker Champ pickup truck with the roof caved in. It wasn't caved in when I was there in 2013, so it happened recently. These trucks are very rare and this one would have been a prime candidate for restoration if the roof hadn't been smashed in. The orange Ford pickup on the other hand might have a chance, if they don't go to the scrap yard. If anyone knows who holds the title for the trucks, please e-mail goatman1979@hotmail.com.
  2. I can confirm that the 290/Little York location was definitely a Safeway, and later, Apple Tree. I grew up in the area and passed by it often. There was also a Safeway in the Bear Creek area on State Highway 6 at Loch Katrine Dr., which is close to Kieth Harrow Blvd. That Safeway also became an Apple Tree, and a Hobby Lobby, and is now a thrift shop. Those conglomerate rock walls seem to be characteristic of Safeway stores and other late 1970's ventures.
  3. Three crude drawings I made of Tower Oaks Plaza, showing the configurations 1) Before the Eldridge Extension. 2) The planned extension of Eldridge overlayed on the original map. 3) The end result after the project was completed.
  4. I saw Susquehannah Drive mentioned in a post from 2007 and wanted to shine some light on it, as I spent several months in 2014 researching the area and what happened to it. Apparently, in the very early 90's, the neighborhood of Tower Oaks Plaza, which sits just south of today's Cypress-North Houston & Eldridge, was bisected by the extension of Eldridge Parkway from FM 1960 to Grant Rd. The neighborhood looks to have been built in the 1950's, and consisted of a loop known as Morgan Drive/Morgan Loop, and included the streets Mills Ln, Lieder Dr., Oralia Dr., and Susquehannah Dr. Susquehannah Dr. ran south from Cypress-North Houston Rd. into the heart of Tower Oaks Plaza, touching Mills and Lieder, and finally ending on what is now West Morgan Dr. When Eldridge Parkway was extended through the middle of the neighborhood, it completely overshadowed the Susquehannah right of way, and the road was done away with altogether. The only traces left today are a wide bank of grass on the east side of Eldridge as you approach Cypress-North Houston, with a drainage ditch placed much further from the roadside than you would normally see. Where Susquehannah ended at W. Morgan, very close to Oralia, there is only a portion of raised earth sitting in an otherwise uninterrupted drainage ditch on the side of the road. There seems to be zero traces of the actual old road surface anywhere. However, a local resident of the community saved a street sign for Susquehannah Dr. and posted it in their front yard, as some sort of permanent homage to their beloved neighborhood street that was erased from existence in the name of progress. I could imagine the community was quite upset over the ordeal, but I have yet to speak with anyone who was directly affected by the project. I'd love to have a chat with the folks who own the Susquehannah street sign and hear their story.
  5. Ah, that actually would make sense. I wondered why they would bother to build the ground level roads at a diamond shape if there wasn't already a main underpass in place. I thought it would be quite beneficial for local residents to have those ground level roads just for whipping around the corner while the heavy traffic passed by harmlessly below. If the railroad is really the one to close off those surface streets that was kind of a mean thing to do. Any idea when that happened?
  6. Hi all, I am John Williams, I operate the westhoustonarchives.org site Marty mentioned above (thanks for the shout-out Marty). I have been ongoing in my efforts to document more of historic West Houston. I have not been posting on this forum for quite some time now but I wanted to see what has been posted about the area of town I pay the most attention to. I have been quite occupied with documenting the construction of various parts of Grand Parkway and the 290 overhaul, but I have also unearthed quite a bit of new topics regarding abandoned roads. I still find them four years after thinking I'd seen them all. I covered a few new discoveries in 2014, such as Susquehannah Dr. in Cypress, the Telge/Spring Cypress intersection, Old North Belt Dr., and North Shepherd near 38th. I also have done some research on the Elysian Viaduct. Not abandoned but most certainly doomed. I was excited to see there were still parts of ground-level Elysian St. intact beneath the viaduct. That was a 1950's creation.
  7. I was hoping someone who knows the older parts of Houston (such as Heights, River Oaks) could shed some light on something for me. I hunt for abandoned roads and old right-of-ways in the primarily west side of Houston, and I recently took notice of one on North Shepherd Dr. between 34th and 38th St., near the Garden Oaks Theater. On either side of the North Shepherd main drag where the underpass goes beneath the railroad corridor, there are two old right-of-ways surrounding the main road at ground level. These old right of ways have been closed off for a long time, but they are very unusual. Even the oldest aerial imagery I could find shows both the main lanes of North Shepherd, and the little side street up at ground level. Were the two built in conjunction? Or did the outer roads pre-date the current right of way that dips below the railroad? I would love to learn more about this bizarre configuration.
  8. This subject always saddens me. I hate to see my beloved Astrodome in such a state of disrepair. While there are many that share my passion for this historic landmark, I feel powerless to make any kind of actual difference in the saving or demolition of the dome. We are talking about costs in the tens of millions, and nothing the average person could do would ever be able to block the inevitable wrecking ball that looms over our beloved dome. I have accepted that one day, not so far away, I will witness the Astrodome being demolished. It seems that nothing in Houston is considered sacred unless it's part of the holy inner sanctum of downtown/midtown buildings. Everything else is expendable, and it sickens me that so many people are on board to destroy this thing. I guess memories don't matter as much as money, and living for the moment.
  9. For those of you who are on the hunt for old abandoned bridges, I located one earlier this year within the confines of the Addicks Reservoir, directly along the western shoulder of the elevated portion of SH-6 that runs through the reservoir. The bridge is in two sections, a north and a south section, crossing over South Mayde Creek. Before SH-6 was built at an elevated height through the reservoir (circa 1968), the road was a simple asphalt road which sat at ground level, and was known only as Addicks-Satsuma Rd. There was a slight bend in the road near South Mayde Creek which was eliminated in the new SH-6 elevated stretch, but today, the old bend can still be found, as it is home to these two sections of old bridge. Due to a lack of detailed information on the road, I can only assume these bridges, which were constructed in the late 1950's, were replacements for earlier wooden bridges. Addicks-Satsuma Rd. dates way back to the beginning of the 20th century, so there had to be something there to cross the creek. These two sections of abandoned bridge are somewhat modern in design, with concrete and steel on the deck surface, and a wooden substructure that has remained relatively intact to this day. Unfortunately, these new bridges only served for about ten years or so before SH-6 was elevated, and this bend in the road was bypassed altogether. Some forty years after being abandoned, these two bridge sections remain, nestled about 10 feet below the sidewall of SH-6 on the west side, just a few hundred paces from the dam itself. The south bridge is in much better shape, and you can still explore underneath it. There is a large amount of old discarded beer cans and tires from the 1970's scattered around. There are also ruins of what appeared to be some concrete culverts or possibly stability points for some type of superstructure. The north bridge, which is all the way on the other side of the creek, is much harder to spot, as it has been almost completely engulfed by topsoil, and the side rails are all gone. On either side of the bridge, you may also notice a metal gate. This pair of gates used to open and close as needed to prevent drivers from crossing the bridge during floods. Now, they are just ghostly reminders of what used to be. I have pictures but cannot figure out URL codes, nor do I care to. If you visit my webpage, you can view over a dozen photos of the bridges. www.westhoustonarchives.org , and go to the abandoned roads page. The bridges are listed alphabetically after Addicks Clodine Rd, and Addicks- Fairbanks Rd.
  10. I'll have to check that out next time Im on the seawall. I knew about the gun turret installations in front of the San Luis, and always point it out to my passengers when I ride past it. If any of y'all remember Sea Arama, it also used to be along the seawall near the long fishing pier that got destroyed by Hurricane Ike. Numerically, it would have been located approximately at 89th street, if such a road exists. I managed to get inside and take plenty of photos before it got bulldozed in 2007.
  11. I have enjoyed reading these threads. I have been researching the many abandoned roads and settlements inside the Addicks and Barker Reservoirs for the past few years. In short, a lot of evidence of human settlement was left behind after the creation of the Addicks and Barker dams in the 1940's. Most of these were early 20th century residential properties, such as farms, cemeteries, church sites, and the like. There was also a simple network of basic roads throughout both reservoirs. Most of those located within Addicks Reservoir have been maintained, widened, and kept in service, such as Clay, Patterson, Addicks-Fairbanks, and Groeschke. However, the ones in Barker Reservoir have largely been abandoned. Noble Road (now a hiking trail), Beeler Rd., Addicks Clodine, and Barker Clodine have been reclaimed by nature. Barker Clodine was turned into a bike trail some time ago, but according to early aerial photographs, it too was once a fully functional road, much like Addicks Howell. I think Noble and Beeler Roads were always gravel, as there seems to be no evidence of any pavement having existed on their paths. I have yet to explore Lamb Road, mainly because I was waiting for winter of 2011 to kill off some of the tree growth and get the wasps and other critters into hiding, but just as soon as the time was ripe, we started getting heavy rains again, which made it difficult to explore within the reservoir. I would like to go and see all this crap that's been discarded along Lamb Road. Old road maps actually labeled it, but then the labels disappeared from newer maps. All I could gather was that it used to be someone's farm, and like most of the residents within the reservoir, they had to pack up and move their operations when the government decided their land would best be used as a flood basin.
  12. HBCU, I recently noticed the construction at Bauer & 290 as well. This appears to be (finally) the beginning phases of the Hempstead Tollway out in that area. At least on the eastbound side. The new right-of-way being built along the westbound frontage roads may be ramps to the Grand Parkway's Segment E, which is the part that runs between I-10 and US 290. According to planning maps, the Grand Parkway will spill out onto 290 just east of Becker Rd., which is fairly close to Bauer. I am not 100% certain as to the layout of the ramps and planned interchange, but it appears that 290's corridor will be significantly widened between Houston Premium Outlets and Roberts Rd./Katy-Hockley. Could be main lanes, could be exit ramps. At this point it's hard to tell. I noticed that there is a ramp-like structure being built at the northwest corner of 290 & Bauer. My guess is that what we are seeing now is part of the Grand Parkway interchange, but it all goes hand in hand with the Hempstead Tollway, which will be an integral part of the design. Now, I am wondering how much of the tollway will be elevated, and how much will be built at ground level, as with the Westpark Tollway.
  13. In regards to Addicks Clodine Rd., I finally found a good access point for photos (as well as a good hike). If you head west on Westheimer from HWY-6 South and enter George Bush park, there is a small parking lot directly across from Addicks-Clodine Rd. There is a small gravel path with a gate leading into Addicks-Clodine. The gravel path turns to the right into a bald spot on the reservoir, but the actual road itself is dead ahead, barely discernable unless you notice the trees in a straight line. The road surface is almost totally washed away, but the drainage ditches on either side contain discarded tires and rims, and this sunken path is the best way to explore the old alignment. The abandoned path continues north all the way to the north end of Barker dam, but it's quite a hike. I would recommend going in two vehicles, parking one at the north end, and driving to the south end to begin the hike. Once you reach the north end, drive back to the south access point and retrieve the other vehicle.
  14. I don't remember it personally, but I sure found it on the map. That looked like a pretty nasty dead man's curve. Apparently the curve was bypassed in the 70's at some point, and an apartment complex was built right over it.
  15. While exploring old maps, I discovered an isolated segment of Old North Houston-Rosslyn Rd. on the southeast corner of SH-249 and North Houston Rosslyn Rd. The road appears in photos as far back as 1943, but has been abandoned since approximately the 1970's since the newer road was built to the west. Part of the old road now serves as a parking lot for a church, and the other half, which borders some shady apartments, is almost totally overgrown on both shoulders, but can still be traversed on foot (though I highly recommend not going alone in this part of town). Get your pictures taken now, because urban development trends suggest that this abandoned road, which sits alone in a grassy field, will likely be built over in the near future.
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