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This brochure says "Proposed Grand Re-opening Spring 2022". That seems ambitious at this point too. I imagine they've had some setbacks from the pandemic.

One can dare to dream.

I think you meant artisan coffee. Artesian coffee evokes a never ending fountain of coffee coming from an infinite source😃

Post will sink or swim regardless of what anyone on here wants or thinks. I do think that OMA has done a tremendous job with what was a very nondescript building. I actually find it a much better repurposed building (overlooking projected uses) than what is happening in Midtown with sHoP at the ion. (Obviously I love that the old Sears is being turned into something for the greater good, and I’m thrilled to see what will come from ion… just architecturally they’re not really equal.) In fantasy world: I think I kind of would rather have seen Post & ion swap places…?

Nooo!!! Please tell me this isn't happening!!! Everything architecturally inspiring and sound in Houston ends up ceasing. The spires in the Medical Center (Texas Children's Hospital) made an architectural statement, especially on the nightscape of Texas Medical Center skyline. It made a statement at night. Why is it when it comes to Houston's case, cost becomes a big issue and it doesn't seem to affect other big cities? For example, Dallas's BOA and Reunion tower continue to iconically light their buildings, but when it comes to building owners in Houston, they all decide to go CHEAPO and talk about cost. Not enough of our buildings have spires or crowns. Our downtown skyline literally goes dark and bland at night. I bet the lighted arches over 59 heading toward downtown are going to stop next. Apologies for the rant post and mods, I didn't mean to drag Dallas in the mix, it's just hell of frustrating that this has to keep happening in Houston. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/houston-spires-missing-texas-medical-center-16326367.php

I'm still fond of Postmodernism (which means I'm either way behind or way ahead of the times).

Sharing a time lapse of Brava and TX Tower going up since late 2019, viewed from Woodland Heights. Unfortunately the view of 609 Main gets blocked, but it's been fun to watch these two go up at the same time!

People seem to think that because nothing has been done, all the previous ideas wouldn't have worked. But we have no idea if they would have worked or not, because none of them were done. It's very possible we could have had a working facility by now that would be a huge point of pride for the city and county and one of, if not the most notable historical landmark in Houston.

spent some time walking around at lunch today, before the rain. I guess I'll be the lone dissenting opinion, I kind of like it. mainly from a perspective of, anything is better than the 3/4 of the block being empty except for a bunch of too far spaced stairs that end up causing tourists to trip and fall. but I also like the pyramid at the Louvre, so what do I know

Is the inspiration for Texas Tower's crown hanging around in this photo? I

I think that's happening already, but I also think it will always have some of the same problems as Brutalism - strongly appreciated by a few, but generally seen as tasteless and unpleasant by more. Also, just like with brutalism, bad postmodernism is really, really bad. And there's a lot of it. And just to clarify - I like brutalism, even most of the more mediocre examples, but bad brutalism can be genuinely unpleasant.

Compared to what was there 30 years ago, the aerial photos are astonishing.

I think that we should all give, even well established restaurants, a little leeway right now. It’s no secret that labor is a major issue. Sounds like Acadian Coast explained the issue pretty clearly.

Relative to what, Manhattan? Ok then. Houston has the greatest population density in Texas. Austin has more people living downtown than Dallas or Houston, but outside of downtown, Austin's population density plummets to endless rows of single-family homes. Developers there have to fight tooth and nail just to build the kind of townhomes that we're so quick to take for granted.

Just ran into a guy leaving the industrial building while walking my dog. He's working on clearing out the interior and says it will be replaced with a food court (and maybe rooftop bar) next year. Anyone seen any news or similar rumors?

I suspect Postmodernism is stuck in that uncomfortable place - too old to be stylish, yet too new to seem quaint and charming. Probably in a few years it will begin to start to be appreciated more.

I rode both sides on Sunday morning around 9am, I had 1 car pass me. The shoulder is as wide as a lane and the speed limit is 40mph. I will continue to ride it early on weekends.

This is a really cool and interesting photo, thanks for sharing. It is weird seeing the (then late model) work vehicles present at the job site and the number on the sign without an area code.

On Tuesday, March 21st, 2006, KinkaidAlum posted: "The antenna at One Shell Plaza reaches to around 1,000 feet. There are several photos on emporis.com that show the antenna to reach almost the exact same height as Wells Fargo. The one building that has always confused me is the St Luke's Medical Tower. It's official height is listed at 316 feet. Apparently, the needle spires aren't counted in the height, but even without them, 316 feet seems way too short. Especially when you consider that the nearby Marriott Hotel is listed at 265 feet. There's NO WAY St Luke's is only 51 feet taller than the Marriott even without the spires!" I checked this out from multiple angles tonight. The question is not whether or not St Luke's is over 316 feet; it is whether or not (including spires) it is under or over 440'. With the spires I am certain that it is no shorter than the recent Memorial Hermann Medical Plaza. Edit: skyscraperpage and E______ both quote 316/25st., but Baylor College of Medicine says 29 storeys. The architect's website doesn't indicate one way or the other, saying only, "The Tower is a sophisticated, state-of-the-art medical facility and teaching hospital which captures the spirit and character of Houston and the adjacent Texas Medical Center. Twin octagonal towers respond to this dual frontage and help define the urban environment. The circular roofs and spires bring each tower to a dynamic terminus." There's a nice picture, though, of St Luke's as the only building visible from Hermann Park. A much more personable presence than the hulking Memorial Hermann.

Agree... had Sunday brunch a few weeks ago with several friends at the newish Acme Oyster House in Montrose... food was great but service was so slow and we were shocked that on a Sunday when they were obviously busy that they were closing between 3pm and 5pm. Well after a quick talk with our server we found out why... it was a labor issue... they were short staffed and the cooks were very overworked. So obviously we understood.

Sorry guys. I'm super late and had been out of town not realizing this topic has been discussed. My bad.

Anyone know the above? Just looking at the brochures and stuff it seems to allude to a Q4 2021 finish but they haven't really done much as of yet... Given the amount of tourists I see walking by the Shops and quizzically looking at it like "can we go in there?" every weekend I feel like just doing what they planned to do for the Shops would give it a big boost. It also would extend the Discovery Green/Austin St Bike lane foot traffic almost to Main, which would be huge. I hope its not scrapped. Edit: I was at a function for one of the tenants in Center One and the new renovations are fantastic, they did a lot of work inside that isn't even detailed in the brochure. The office I was at said theres so much added they almost didn't know what do with all of it/how to integrate all of the additional features into their work culture.

So i'm relatively young and grew up on the south side of Houston. Never had any friends on the north side of DT, most of them were like exit 52 or higher. Are y'all telling me the only way to go the area north of downtown other than 45 was via this viaduct...and its been closed for 4 years? No other streets went up that way? Is this why I always took the highway to Saint Arnolds? If this is true, my mind will be blown for the day.

Don’t mean to be a Debbie downer but I sent the Post HTX folks this idea back in April (see below) and never heard back. I even sent them my post from this thread and the follow up responses. It makes too much sense not to do it. We all can see it, they apparently don’t have the vision or foresight to think that far ahead…

yeah i get it for sure! one thing i love about Velvet Taco across the street is sitting on the street facing patio area watching the world go by!

V&E's interior rendering.

Instead of doing that I-45 widening project, just extend the Hardy. It would displace fewer people. Though I don't know if would impact more people with car exhaust pollution.

The three parcels I'd like to see developed within the next decade. Apache owns the grassy parcel facing Post Oak Blvd? Whitestone REIT owns the 6 BLVD Place surface lot? Hines owns the grassy parcel next to Hanover Post Oak?

Levcor put up new signs this week. A New Post Oak Plaza Coming Soon

Now up at Mikyoung Kim Design's website. Talks a lot about the rain water. Really amazing stuff! https://myk-d.com/projects/tmc3-innovation-masterplan/ Previously surface parking lots, the site lies within the 500-year floodplain. The project will raise the ground plane of the site’s interior — from the finished first floors of each building to the helix gardens — by as much as 8 feet. Supported by a 3.4-million-gallon subterranean cistern, the 11.5 acres of MYKD designed open space, with over 400 new trees, will absorb approximately 2.3 million gallons of rainwater, storing and filtering it for reuse and release in a highly controlled protocol. The helix gardens extend the area’s green network into the site, modulating thermal comfort throughout. Ground floor activity from restaurants, shops, and the Collaborative Building’s central atrium will spill out into the helix garden and the surrounding “Complete Streets,” knitting together this new community.

Hanover is burying the power in front of their development. I'd imagine that anything like the above is temporary but who knows.

Yeah we're def not unique with this. I've seen this is a bunch of cities.

Frustrating to be sure, but Houston is far from unique with this kind of nonsense.

BisNow had an articl BisNow did an article about this: https://www.bisnow.com/houston/news/economic-development/houston-in-third-place-for-most-number-of-fortune-500-hqs-109194?utm_source=outbound_pub_4&utm_campaign=outbound_issue_48954&utm_content=outbound_link_1&utm_medium=email Metro areas: New York City: 64 Chicago: 35 Houston: 24 DFW: 22

Reddit u/Hijack32 posted this pic of a guy that caught a huge gar fish with the skyline in the background. Others have posted pics of alligators here. I guess that is why the UHD mascot is a gator.

So... has anyone ever gotten any additional info on why the spires are being taken down? I recall seeing stories from last year regarding the leasing attempts but nothing mentioning anything like this.

Any idea what this will be? Looks like townhomes.

Bulldozer(?) on the property digging stuff up today.

i'm all for it!

Uh, what? Greentown is opening...today? https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Greentown-Labs-opening-marks-clean-energy-16119227.php?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral

Demolition permit for the two spires. Kind of sad to see. Wonder why they’re being removed?

You know, for some reason, I figured you wanted the other person so you can push them off the top while they hold the tape measure. The crap that goes through my head at times.

Cool. Architect or engineer student? i wonder why the height of the spires is not given. That seems odd to me; especially when other buildings' spires and antenna heights ARE given. Weird. Anyway, good luck. Do you think the newest MH tower is the highest the MC will go? Or are they able to go even higher? (i mean in terms of FAA regulations, need for something that tall, etc.) m.

If the parking floors are counted in the 25, then it would be shorter than expected on paper. Still doesn't explain the visual part - why it appears not to be any shorter than Memorial Hermann Medical Plaza from so many distant sideways vantage points where perspective should not make much of a difference. Thanks for looking. I designed an instrument to read me off building heights, but I won't be able to put it together until after I finish writing my thesis paper, so I probably won't get to make my own measurement until Christmas. I just answered your question over in the other hospital high-rise thread. Good subjects we've got here. Neil

Well, i have searched for over an hour now. The only thing i could find was a blurb in HoustonArchitecture which stated that the highrise appears to be taller than it really is. They still maintain that it is 25 storeys. How did you get 29?? Also, when it says they incorporated the parking structure into the design, does that mean that Pelli built on top of it or was the 9 storey structure a part of the 25 (29) storeys?? I wonder why articles are so hush-hush regarding the spires' height? That is sort of weird. A collosal oversight or something else? hmmmm. m.

OMG! You are desparate. Tape measures? Geometry? Sorry, man (or gal...your profile doesn't specify) i looked at several info. sites yesterday and they only give the height to the roof. I am not sure why they don't include the spires. Both Emporis and Skyscraperpage were not forthcoming on the height of the spires. Very peculiar. Anyway, i will keep looking for you. I like a challenge, and i am a tenacious little bugger. m.

Since no one seems to know, I would be grateful to anyone who would take a fun little trip down to the area with a friend and a tape measure, measure them and stand them so that the top of their head perfectly aligns with the tip of St Luke's, and then construct like triangles and figure out the height.