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You know, this really sucks. All these developers that keep doing this to us are such teases. They come out with these grand proposals and renderings (houston pavilions), get us houstonians all aroused so they will gain our approval, then when it comes time to build it, they scale back half the project and scrap all the components that were necessary to make the project a success (a la pavilions scrapping two towers of hotel and residential) Then we're left with a cut rate, penny pinchers half ass projects that end up failing miserably and being bought up by the Magic Johnson group. Sigh. thank God for Gerald Hines and Marvy Finger /rant

...more apartment infill! Site.pdf Elevations.pdf

"Well it's better than what is currently there" seems to be the same old typical excuse I keep hearing for every once grandeur development that turns into a medicore disappointment. Quantity is not quality and I wish some of these developers would have the cajones to seriously build and invest big in this town as they so often do in others. What are the developers and banks scared of? And don't tell me Houston's bust of the 80's. Surely, we are passed that and have proven our staying power during rough times.

New to the area doesn't mean a new concept. It might just be a Cali-based yogurt store and a Florida-based dinner/movie theater rather than Alamo Draft House. Also, I don't think it's better than what is there. There are over 630 apartments on the site right now. They are also "moderately" priced for inside the loop, allowing for a little bit of income diversity in the area. These will be replaced by much higher priced apartments... and a lot fewer in number. I'd rather have 800 residents on that site than the 300 that will be there in the future.

It's better than what is there currently. I do like that they are at least saying most retail will be new to this area...better then having another yogurt, Starbucks, whole foods, apple store

It mean Jose, Juan and Pepe are doing the landscaping.

I still remember the joke the UH Poli Sci professor Timothy Howard had for Cullen... "If he were still alive, not even Evel Knievel would try to take on Cullen!"

Bummer. The article states that there will be 279 residential units replacing 675 apartments. Considering how over-retailed this portion of town is, especially of the "high-end" variety, and the lack of large developable tracts in that location, I am looking at this as a net negative.

I don't see this as anything like Victory, Regent Square, West Ave, etc. in that the focus would be have to be on affordable housing, not "upscale" shopping or offices. Again, the best comparison I could think of would be the Mueller development in Austin, which to my knowledge is expected to take many years to build out, has no retail at all in its initial phase, and has some dedicated amount of affordable housing.