HAIF: Okay, Seriously Now: Project #3 - HAIF

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Okay, Seriously Now: Project #3 Main, Prairie, Preston and Fannin Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   The Great Hizzy! 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2435
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004

Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 12:36 PM

I'm thinking public plaza of some sort but a hotel would work as well, given the location and the activity, especially on nights and weekends.
0

#2 User is offline   WestGrayGuy 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 425
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004
  • Location:West Gray & Taft

Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 12:42 PM

I would like to see some mixed use development fill up this whole block. Clubs facing Main and Prarie with some sort of parking above. Perhaps residential above that.
This has been a post by WestGrayGuy

WGG
0

#3 User is offline   Montrose1100 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3019
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004
  • Location:Spring/Abilene
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Deep in the heart of Texas.

Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 3:10 PM

Can one repost there infared pictures again, the blocks are mixed up in my head.
"The moral proof is by far the weakest, because morality can be viewed in terms of evolving social customs" - Michio Kaku

Shameless Promotion: Flickr
0

#4 User is offline   The Great Hizzy! 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2435
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004

Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 3:13 PM

I can't post the infrareds, Monty, but it's the empty block east of the southbound platform of the Red Line @ Preston Station. To the south is Suedea, Boaka Bar and th Mercury Room. Across Main Street are Opus, M Bar and Saba. Above it is Live! and Subway.

Hope that helps.

How about a fountain with fancy lighting? I realize Market Square is nearby but a city can never have too many public spaces, IMO.
0

#5 User is offline   jt16 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 270
  • Joined: Sep 01, 2004

Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 4:45 PM

I like the idea of public space here. It's central to the downtown area, and surrounded by clubs and bars. It seems like a natural gathering spot. I don't think you can compare this spot to other "failed" public spaces...like Market Square, which are poorly designed and in bad locations. I think you would need a lot of private money to make it happen though. Take a stroll through NYC's Central Park. Just about every major attraction has been "generously underwritten with funds from so-and-so". I would like to see more of that in Houston.
0

#6 User is offline   Montrose1100 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3019
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004
  • Location:Spring/Abilene
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Deep in the heart of Texas.

Posted Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 5:33 PM

The Great Hizzy!, on Wednesday, September 1st, 2004 @ 3:13pm, said:

I can't post the infrareds, Monty, but it's the empty block east of the southbound platform of the Red Line @ Preston Station. To the south is Suedea, Boaka Bar and th Mercury Room. Across Main Street are Opus, M Bar and Saba. Above it is Live! and Subway.

Hope that helps.

How about a fountain with fancy lighting? I realize Market Square is nearby but a city can never have too many public spaces, IMO.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think I remember which one, It just would help with the map, as it did before...

Have a good day! :D
"The moral proof is by far the weakest, because morality can be viewed in terms of evolving social customs" - Michio Kaku

Shameless Promotion: Flickr
0

#7 User is offline   Houston Retail 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 188
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004

Posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 at 2:34 AM

ill try to get a map up tommorow.
0

#8 User is offline   houstonsemipro 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1538
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004

Posted Thursday, September 2, 2004 at 4:42 PM

Is main event is still going on weekends? Just wanted to know more about main event. If it is, it is crowed?
0

#9 User is offline   SpaceCity 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 370
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004

Posted Friday, September 3, 2004 at 11:10 AM

The more residential, the better. How about a mixed use hotel/condo tower?
"Do my worst, eh? Release the robotic Richard Simmons!"
0

#10 User is offline   Subdude 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: HAIF Moderators
  • Posts: 6904
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004
  • SuperPoster:
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Europe.
  • :
  • :

Posted Saturday, September 4, 2004 at 1:52 PM

I'm always the nay-sayer. :( But I just don't think "mixed-use residential" is the highest and best use for every single property. This block is surrounded by bars. Sorry, but not all that many people want to spend their money to listen to drunks hollering at 2 AM and smell stale beer and sick on the sidewalks when they get up in the morning. A hotel might make sense if not for the glut of hotel rooms downtown and the proximity of the Magnolia and Icon hotels. It is those ugly real-life facts that make blocks like this a challenge to develop.

I thought the idea in the old forum of a Deco Diner or Dennys was a good one, although they obviously wouldn't fill the whole block. Maybe a fire station on the Fannin side?
"Foolery, sir, does walk about the orb
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
0

#11 User is offline   houstonsemipro 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1538
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004

Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 11:29 AM


0

#12 User is offline   Subdude 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: HAIF Moderators
  • Posts: 6904
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004
  • SuperPoster:
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Europe.
  • :
  • :

Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 7:29 PM

List is a duplicate post. See Downtown topic area.
"Foolery, sir, does walk about the orb
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
0

#13 User is offline   UrbaNerd 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1532
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004
  • Location:Houston, Texas, USA, North America, Northern hemisphere, Earth, Inner asteroid belt, Solar system, Milky way galaxy, THIS universe...at least...
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Sugar Land.

Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 7:34 PM

Wow, the tunnel list is quite large....
Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather, what the heck you can do for yourself!
0

#14 User is offline   largeTEXAS 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 322
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004

Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 9:54 PM

I'd like to see a smaller scale hotel development with retail on the first and second floors. Maybe 5-8 floors. Eventually, the bars will fade from this part of Main. It wil be prime for soft good retailers and tourists. Main should eventually be a good mix of retail and restaurants - It's our best hope for a real strip like 5th Avenue or Michigan Ave.
0

#15 User is offline   dbigtex56 

  • User Rank:
  • View gallery
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3536
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004
  • Location:Houston (Montrose) TX
  • SuperPoster:
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Asia.
  • :
  • :

Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 4:48 AM

This looks like a short-term solution block. Let's take the Houston approach and put a couple of fast-food restaurants on this block, or cheap entertainment. I hope the owners would accept a five year lease. It will be properly developed in the future. Let's put anything there in the meantime.
0

#16 User is offline   Subdude 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: HAIF Moderators
  • Posts: 6904
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004
  • SuperPoster:
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Europe.
  • :
  • :

Posted Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 8:22 AM

I wonder if blocks like this ever will be developed. Is it really inevitable? A lot of these blocks, and several large buildings downtown, have been vacant for decades. It is a great thing to see the redevelopment that has occurred, but in many areas there are still 40 years of neglect to overcome. The biggest example is the vacant blocks in the southern part of downtown. I wouldn't be shocked if they remain vacant another 30 years. Of course I hope I'm wrong.

LargeTexas I agree the bars will eventually fade. Nightclub strips generally don't stay fashionable for long. I wonder if there's any way to speed the process up so more balanced development can occur.
"Foolery, sir, does walk about the orb
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
0

#17 User is offline   Sunstar 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 281
  • Joined: Aug 30, 2004

Posted Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 9:57 AM

Does anyone still have a copy of those overheads that they can post?
0

#18 User is offline   pwright1 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 60
  • Joined: Aug 31, 2004

Posted Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 1:47 PM

UrbaNerd, on Tuesday, September 7th, 2004 @ 7:34pm, said:

Wow, the tunnel list is quite large....
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


What a shame. It makes no sense.
0

#19 User is offline   UrbaNerd 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1532
  • Joined: Aug 29, 2004
  • Location:Houston, Texas, USA, North America, Northern hemisphere, Earth, Inner asteroid belt, Solar system, Milky way galaxy, THIS universe...at least...
  • GeoGroup:HAIFing from Sugar Land.

Posted Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 4:09 PM

pwright1, on Saturday, December 25th, 2004 @ 12:47pm, said:

What a shame.  It makes no sense.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>



OOps, I though that list was for the tunnel,a nd not Main st! :P
Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather, what the heck you can do for yourself!
0

#20 User is offline   Sooner&RiceGrad 

  • User Rank:
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 169
  • Joined: Jan 24, 2005
  • Location:currently: moore.okc hometown: medical district.houston

Posted Monday, January 24, 2005 at 9:42 PM

Gee... how much life would we be seeing downtown?
Posted Image
Ok Met Forums/Site check it out
0

Share this topic:


Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic


  HAI Community   HAI Extras   HAI Tools   HAI Sister Sites