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#101 User is offline   rsb320 

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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Are they tearing down both buildings? When, what time?
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM

There was a press conference with HPD and HFD to start at 3 but I'm not near a TV...
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I hope they get all the bums out this time.
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Ch 11 online's got it.

I'll bet it's just the older building. Looks like they might have to shut down the rail at some point.

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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Yipes. I guess I'll be changing my plans tomorrow...I'm guessing it'll be in the AM?
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM

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Yipes. I guess I'll be changing my plans tomorrow...I'm guessing it'll be in the AM?



I caught some of the press conference through the lame speaker on my computer. I thought he said that it would take several days and something about cranes, etc. Might not be an implode.

I'm pretty sure it's the old building. I remember earlier on this thread something about that building being affected by Ike. Apparently, the cracks have expanded in the past year.
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM

The raw video I just saw on Ch. 11's site was a police officer saying they would do it "next Friday" and are going to have cops at the building 24/7 until then to make sure people don't go in and cars don't park there. Don't know if that's the official word, it's just what I saw.
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 4:18 PM

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The City of Houston will demolish part of the old Savoy Hotel September25 because it poses an immediate danger to civilians, HPD NeighborhoodWatch Chief M.L. Curan said today in a press conference. (Despite whatan HPD press officer told us -- and others -- earlier today, the Savoy will not be imploded tomorrow).

Passers-byhave reported bricks falling from the two-building hotel's smallerstructure, he said. The area around the hotel -- along Travis and Main,between Leland and Pease -- was being barricaded during the pressconference. Police officers will be posted around the area 24-7, Curransaid. He said there were no plans right now for a demolition byimplosion, but that will ultimately be up to whichever contractor winsthe bid.

He said the police have had difficulty contacting theowner, who is currently in Lebanon. (Curran didn't remember his nameoff-hand, but a 2007 Press story identified him as Michael Nassif). The owner has 10 days to file an appeal, Curran said.

The nearby Metro line will need to be closed during the demolition -- hopefully not longer than Friday-Sunday, Curran said.

http://blogs.houston.../savoy_demo.php

No wammy no wammy, let's hope he doesn't appeal.
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Posted Friday, September 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM

The half-demo has been put off till next weekend it looks like.
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 3:17 AM

I suppose this was inevitable. The structural deterioration was enough that renovation probably would never be feasible.
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 7:16 AM

Demo in 7 days yet he has 10 days to appeal. What exactly is he going to appeal when his building is rubble??
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Coming into work this morning, I noticed they've already got all the streets cordoned off near the building, including a part of Milam - hell, they've got our entire building behind cones. It's fine on the weekend, but I can't imagine the congestion throughout all of next week. Yikes.
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM

So the reports of falling bricks prompted this? That's been going on for a while. I wonder if something else (worse) happened. The apartment building has been caving in on itself for years now, and bricks started falling from the arches above the windows quite a while ago, too.
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

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Here's from last summer, pre-Ike, if one was to compare to its current state.

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I knew I should've gone over and grabbed a brick to keep when I had the chance.
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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Poor Big head on Main St..... i wonder if they're gonna move her prior.

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Posted Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Here is a repost of a higher-resolution photo a friend took late last year:

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Posted Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Some pictures today, September 20th. 2009

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Posted Monday, September 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM

I saw a report on the Savoy Friday night on 13. According to the report, just the older building is going. The report also highlighted the $3.00 parking inside the Savoy garage...they interviewed people who park there during the week. It was kinda funny to see people's reaction to the $3.00 parking/building falling down around the parking garage reaction...guess that's why it's only $3.00!


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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Cherry was awarded the contract to demolish the building.

http://www.khou.com/....1ab787f66.html
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Half a million to tear down a building, that just blows my mind.
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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 4:09 PM

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Half a million to tear down a building, that just blows my mind.


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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 9:23 PM

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HOUSTON—The Savoy Hotel in downtown Houston has received a brief stay of execution.

Originally scheduled for demolition as early as Friday, a spokesman for Houston Mayor Bill White said the city has tentatively agreed with the building’s owner to delay the demolition until October 2. In addition, the owner will select the contractor to tear down the abandoned Savoy and will the pay for the work himself, Michel said.

Charles Mansour, the attorney for the building’s owner, said he expects the tentative agreement to be finalized by noon Thursday. Under the deal, the owner would demolish the building the weekend of October 2, 3 and 4. If he is not prepared to take the building down by that time, Michel said, the city will go ahead with its original plan and take the building down itself.

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Posted Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Here's the official release:

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Owners of the Savoy Hotel Prepare to Step Forward to Take
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The City of Houston has reached a tentative agreement with the owners of the vacant Savoy Hotel building to demolish the dangerous 103-year-old building beginning no later than October 2. Negotiations are being finalized to have the owners assume responsibility for the demolition of the structure.

Under the terms of that agreement, the owners are being asked to submit a contract with a qualified demolition contractor by the close of business on September 29. The demolition would have to take place no later than the following weekend, Oct. 2-4.

ā€œWe are very pleased Ā that the owners are acting in good faith and expect they will live up to their responsibility,ā€ said Assistant Police Chief Mark Curran, head of the Neighborhood Protection Division. ā€œThey are helping to set an example for other property owners. If, however, they are unable to meet the commitment, we are prepared to step in and protect the public’s safety and interest.ā€

The City is prepared to begin demolition at midnight on Oct. 2 if that becomes necessary. The City awarded a provisional demolition contract today to the lowest of six bidders, Houston-based Cherry Environmental Services, Inc. Ā Cherry’s bid was for $448,600.

Demolition was ordered this past week after inspectors noted structural cracks in the building faƧade.

ā€œIt is understood the demolition process takes time to prepare utilities and other infrastructure and stage the needed equipment and personnel,ā€ said Andy Icken, Deputy Director for the City’s Public Works and Engineering Department. ā€œWe are working through that and with surrounding property owners as quickly as we can.ā€

Meanwhile, the City will take necessary steps, including posting police officers at the scene, to keep the public safe and away from the structure, said Chief Curran.

The City is also working with other agencies, including the Metropolitan Transit Authority, whose Main Street light-rail line runs in front of the Savoy, in the 1600 block of Main. It is expected that the rail line would be temporarily shut down in the Savoy’s vicinity beginning at 6 p.m. on Oct. 2.

Demolition, will be performed using specialized cranes and all necessary environmental safeguards will be in place during the demolition. The demolition is expected to take the weekend, though removal of debris from the site will take somewhat longer.
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Posted Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Here is some inside shots of the Savoy Flats building. Figured I'd share 'em now since it's soon to be gone forever !!!
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1. A shot of the Austin Room on the Second floor that connects the older building to the hotel.
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2. Second floor area , not to sure what is was originally.
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3. Second floor hallway.
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4. Second floor room , on the opposite side of the wall is where all the floors collapsed.
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5. All the rubble from the collapse.
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6. Third floor stairway entrance
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7. Third floor hallway
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8. Third floor room
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9.Fourth floor room next to collapse.
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10. Stairs going up to the 5th floor.
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11. Shot looking down from the roof.
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12. On the roof .
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Wow...thanks for sharing those pics, secretsquirrel. I love old buildings, and hate it when one is lost, but I can see what a danger this one is, from these interior photos. It would be nice if they could salvage those bricks.
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM

awesome pics... thanks dude..

It's a shame, but photo 11 is exactly why this thing needs to come down. I had no clue it was so rundown.
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 at 10:08 AM

That must have taken some bravery after seeing photos 10 and 11. You'd think the building had sat through a couple fierce earthquakes. Thanks for the pics, secretsquirrel.
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Yes, thanks for posting those! Really gives a blunt look at the handiwork of nature (and the neglect of Nassif the slumlord).

I had what felt like vertigo when looking in near the fire escape...no way I could have done that!
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 at 10:33 AM

#11 definitely gave me an adrenaline rush.

What did it SMELL like in there?

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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Does anybody have pictures from inside the new hotel? I am dying to see what it looks like in there. I drove by this weekend to see it before they torn down the older part but looks like the newer part is locked down pretty tight.
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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Secretsquirrel may - all I have are these renderings from a brochure:

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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Re picture 11 ... what held the floors up? I don't know much about building, but I'd think there would be some sort of floor studs or something.
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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Makes me wonder if there other DT buildings in such despair.

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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Wow, could have mistaken it for modern-day Detroit. ^_^
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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM

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Makes me wonder if there other DT buildings in such despair.

There's one I worry about in the 800 block of Main Street. Can't remember the name. And of course the Days Inn is looking pretty bad, as well as the Central building.

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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM

^Battelstein's? Across from MainPlace? Kind of narrow with casement-ish windows?

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Posted Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Right, just to the right of Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches.
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Posted Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Here is also some shots from the newer Hotel. I've been inside alot of vacant buildings downtown and The Savoy Flats building is by far in the worst condition. Battlesteins is still in decent condition. I know the 1st floor and basement was being converted into a club but was never finished. The upper floors are still intact for the most part.

Old TV that still works and includes AM/FM radio
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The Savoy Kitchen
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Looking thru a connecting doorway in the newer building
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Some of the misc squatters artwork
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM

This just in:

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METRORAIL SCHEDULED SERVICE INTERRUPTION

When: Beginning at 6 p.m. Friday, October 2 to 11 p.m. Sunday, October 4

Where: Between UH Downtown and the Downtown Transit Center stations

Why: Building demolition – downtown Houston

Demolition of a portion of the Savoy Hotel, located on Main Street between Pease and Leeland, will require closing portions of streets in downtown, and pedestrian activity will be prohibited in the area.

There will be no rail service between the UH Downtown Station and the Downtown Transit Center (DTTC) northbound platform.

Trains traveling into and out of downtown will operate from the DTTC southbound platform. Riders traveling northbound into downtown will depart the train at the DTTC southbound platform.

METRO will operate dedicated ā€œRail Shuttleā€ buses every 15 minutes for customers wishing to travel between the DTTC and UH-Downtown stations.

Regular rail service will operate between the Fannin South Station and the DTTC southbound platform.

A flyer with this information, including a map of ā€œRail Shuttleā€ bus stop locations is available on all trains.

Normal rail service is scheduled to resume at 4 a.m. Monday, October 5.

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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Wow, the entire weekend.
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Now to think about the best spot to videotape the demo from....
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM

It wasn't closed that long for the last demolition. Maybe they're worried about debris on the tracks or maybe they have to take down the overhead wires or something.
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Looking at the newer Savoy it's amazing to me the manner in which these buildings were abandoned. Electronic equipment, paperwork, etc, all left behind. It's as if they thought they'd be coming back or worse yet, they were trying to make a getaway.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Its coming down tonight! Rail service is disrupted and there's lots of police and work crews around the building.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM

View Postkylejack, on Friday, October 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM, said:

Its coming down tonight! Rail service is disrupted and there's lots of police and work crews around the building.

hope you have some time. from the description, might take a long while.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM

do we have confirmation its coming down tonight ?
the rail was set to stop service tonight through sunday.

i saw the heightened police presence this afternoon.. but it makes more sense that they are just gearing up for a demo tomorrow during daylight.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Hm you could be right. I wish they would announce it.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM

i believe 13 said they were starting at midnight....going to push the walls in, little by little, starting at the top.
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM

View Postmusicman, on Friday, October 2, 2009 at 9:59 PM, said:

i believe 13 said they were starting at midnight....going to push the walls in, little by little, starting at the top.


I wasnt aware it wasn't going to be an implosion.. i thought that was the norm.
Midnight sucks... anyone going out to video it ??
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Posted Friday, October 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM

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I wasnt aware it wasn't going to be an implosion.. i thought that was the norm.
Midnight sucks... anyone going out to video it ??

they can't implode because the owner wants his neighboring building to remain.
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