The Savoy Hotel / Apartments 1616 Main
#1
Posted Monday, November 29, 2004 at 5:03 PM
I lived in the Savoy hotel for about 6 months starting last February. I discovered and had to explore the building the moment I saw a huge chandeller (sp?) hanging from behind a broken window in the lobby. It's hard to keep me out of any building and it wasn't long before I had discovered an entrance.
The Savoy is actually two buildings, the older, shorter one on the north side and the addition on the south. The older building is absolutely rotten and decrepit. It has caved in from the top floor to the ground and actually looks pretty freakin cool. Toilets hanging by plumbing ten stories up and whatnot. Well anyways, that's where the fire escape was, though they had cut it off about two stories up. I had to climb up a support pole to reach it. And then go down an elevator shaft to get to the newer building. Once in it's always easy to find a way out.
My first astonishing discovery was that the place was still completely furnished and obviously nobody had been in it for quite some time. I'm from California where land is worth more than gold so this was quite shocking.
Also, the electricity was still on for some reason. There's a refrigerator downstairs in the kitchen that has the door ripped of and has been constantly on since 1988 and is probably still on. There was also a phone in the lobby that I used to get calls on. 713-something-1212. It's still listed and I used to get calls from people asking for room rates.
The downstairs is actually really pretty. Tall ceilings and curved staircases, huge chandelliers and a beautiful solid marble statue in the entryway. Two libraries, (stocked completely with Texas law books) a patio area between the two buildings had a fountain and a jacuzzi, now smashed and covered in pigeon refuse.
Anybody know why the hell they would leave the electricity on for so long? Makes no sense to me.
The owner is obviously hoping for the "New Main Street" effect to take place that far south and have the building converted into lofts ala Rice. I don't see that happening anytime soon, but then again it's already been closed for 16 years.
The upper floors are rather ugly and boring. Single hallways straight through with cookie cutter rooms on each side. The penthouse suites are kind of nice but still I don't think they could call this place urban lofts without gutting the whole building. There's no uniqueness to it. The older building was obviously a hell of a lot classier in it's day but when Best Western had control of it you could tell it was a bit cut rate. I have a pile of brochures for it from the 70's that I'll scan if I get the time. I think the hotel was mainly for visiting Shell employees across the street.
They'll have to demolish the older building before they can do anything with the newer one, as they are both connected and the older one threatens to demolish itself any day now.
I say smash it and start over, the building is too ugly to ever be profitable. But in the meantime, open it to the homeless sleeping on the sidewalks outside. (that's what I told the owner anyways, with a few expletives added in)
They have the parking garage open now, mainly so the penny pinching millionaire can make 30 bucks a day and watch the building he's sitting on sit empty while people sleep outside. Sorry, I hate landlords, particularly that one.
Any questions? Any other buildings worth getting into? I'll be back in Houston come January. Charles Grube beware.
#3
Posted Monday, November 29, 2004 at 5:24 PM
The old Sheraton building has been gutted for asbestos abatement and right now is just concrete slab and frame. I happened to be in there a couple times a few years ago before they gutted it. Nothing special. The ground floor was the hotel lobby and what used to be shops and restaurants. The next couple floors were meeting rooms, laundry, etc.. Above that were offices, and the hotel rooms were on the top floors. The pool was on the roof above the fourth floor in the interior section.
Has anyone been inside the old Melrose building? It's probably pretty decrepit.
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#4
Posted Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 1:45 AM
I can get in the Shamrock. That trailer out front with the stylized design isn't enough to fool me.
The old Days Inn has people living in it, purportedly there on behalf of the owner, in order to keep other people out. (just the sort of position I'm looking for)
So many empty buildings in just downtown alone, I can't keep track and remember which one's are worth getting into or not.
What about that HUGE skyscraper right downtown (I want to say Louisiana and Clay, maybe not though) north half is parking garage the south is a 22 story or more office building. Anyone know anything about that?
Hearne Lithograph in Midtown (across from Specs) had a horrible attack from copper salvaging crackheads. Seems the water was still on and the entire place flooded from the second story down. Ridiculous structural damage as a result. I did my best to turn the water off but the property manager stole my backpack anyways. I've gotta get on the right side of these things.
#6
Posted Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 4:11 PM
The lights are still on so they can show it.
and this is probaly the sickest (unhealthy) building I have ever been it. Its reeks of dead pigeons on the smaller tower (which has been condemed by the city).
I bet you couldnt get into the old Days Inn building. The guy who watches it rules with an iron fist.
#7
Posted Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 5:21 PM
Have you guys heard of Urban Exploration?
UE is a past time of some folks who like to sneak into empty buildings and explore them. I first heard about it when a group from New York wrote a book about it.
Heres a link to a local site (they went into the Plaza Hotel)
http://suv.topcities.com/HOME.htm
Another site
Do a search for Urban Exploration and youll find alot of neat stuff.
#8
Posted Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 6:01 PM
In front of the old Holiday Inn/Days Inn building they have a LOT of no trespassing zero tolerance signs. Sounds like they mean business. I can understand that after the experience of the hotel being taken over by the homeless.
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#9
Posted Wednesday, December 1, 2004 at 5:58 AM
I used to go into abandoned buildings all the time. There were some lovely ones in upstate NY - factories, mansions, apartment buildings, theaters, stores...
And when (and not until) they were demolished, I'd salvage some great things. That's how I furnished my first apartment.
I've posted this link before, but it bears repeating - the abandoned subway of Rochester, NY. Some good links, too.
#11
Posted Wednesday, December 1, 2004 at 3:11 PM
Where do I begin.........
It all started with skippin skool. We had no car so we caught the 82 westheimer bus. The bus went 2 the galleria or downtown. We went downtown. Well, were skippin school in downtown, where do we go? We can't roam the streets for fear of a truancy enforcing police officer.
To the skyscrapers and tunnels......
Occupied edificios are the funnest though the abandoned 1s are fun 2. The tunnels were a blast 2, ESPECIALLY the abandoned 1s! Man, the fun I had in elevator shafts was unrivaled! Playing elevator chicken (hanging onto the sheathed wires under the elevator as it went up and seeing who could go the highest before letting go), standing under the elevator when the doors open and hollering "hold the elevator!", then laughing as we watched people re-open the doors ad-nauseum while the man who hollered never appeared!, and the view up womens skirts as they passed over the gap was OK, BUT, if u could get a woman to hold the doors open via above stated method, MONEY SHOT! (Hey, I'm sorry, I was in a breakdancing crew called LOS COCHINOS, and my nickname was ROACH as though this excused my behavior).
Stairwells........
Stairwells were the s**t. There's a quasi maze in 1 of the wells in ....well....wells fargo.....wow, wells well and wells in 1 sentence with 3 different meanings. That can't happen often. Well (dammit) anyway, u go in the well and jam the no re-entry door with a bus pass or what have you. I think its the well on north corner of second story of the observation floors. You go up a few stories and there it is; a wierd maze that goes left right left left blah blah blah till you finally pop out in a different well. This one time at the top of 1 of the wells at the roof hatch, we found 1 high heel, an empty wine bottle, a crimson red lipstick mouth marked wine-glass, and a pair of panty-hose. WONDER WHAT WENT ON THERE! But the roof hatch......
The heavens..........
There isn't a roof out of the 7 tallest in downtown I haven't breeched. And believe me, it wasn't easy. Most of the top floors are locked and even if you bypass the locks, most of the hatches are locked, but if you got skillz you can bypass both. My favorite roof would have 2 be be chase since its the highest. I swear I saw the gulf of mexico from up there! B.o.a.s roof is nice too. Its got observation type decks and an unobstructed view north. AND if anyones interested I've got a full square foot panel of the actual pinkish maroon facade of b.o.a. you see greeting you from 45 north coming home! Don't ask how I got it or how I got it downstairs and out of the building.
Deluxe apartment in da sky..........
If I was ever homeless I would live better than I'm livin now. Probably with a 50th floor or higher view. There are so many empty floors with lights, outlets, restrooms, running water, hiding spaces and locking doors its beautiful. I used to practically live in these places during my school daze, or school days, I can't remember which.
Abandoned buildings.........
These are cool if bums popping out dark places doesn't frighten you. Tagging the 5th floor outside wall of the world trade center was cool before tilman refurbished the building. Dead pigeons smell like s**t. Or is that the pigeon s**t? There is no abandoned I can't breech. When u hang out with taggers u become an expert at this. I gladly accept the challenge mr. Wulfe co. issued. Not only will I BREECH days inn and pull an "enter the ninja" on mr. iron fist, ill take pictures of the inside and from the roof to prove I did it. Squatterkid, I can't find the post with your story, what's your story?
Your signature is better than mine.
#13
Posted Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 4:15 PM
So many thoughts and questions going through my head right now about this subject I want to post but I think I'll stop here. This is too cool.
#15
Posted Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 6:35 PM
A good case in point for my above interjection is the building that's directly across Louisianna from the Hyatt Regency. The northside of the building is a very busy parking garage, while the southside is (I'm guessing from the remnants of a sign) the old Houston Chronicle offices.
See, I'm involved in this little informal contest to squat the tallest building possible. I'm still the winner with the Savoy at 17 stories, but I need to beat my own record.
#16
Posted Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 7:02 PM
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#18
Posted Wednesday, January 5, 2005 at 12:40 AM
squatterkid, on Saturday, December 18th, 2004 @ 5:35pm, said:
A good case in point for my above interjection is the building that's directly across Louisianna from the Hyatt Regency. The northside of the building is a very busy parking garage, while the southside is (I'm guessing from the remnants of a sign) the old Houston Chronicle offices.
See, I'm involved in this little informal contest to squat the tallest building possible. I'm still the winner with the Savoy at 17 stories, but I need to beat my own record.
Oh yes, thats another one I've been eyeing lately. I pass right by that one some mornings on the bus and have seen all of the activity in the parking garage. It looks like the ground floor is in use on that one. Maybe just the people working the garage have access to it.
#19
Posted Wednesday, January 5, 2005 at 1:37 AM
Subdude, on Saturday, December 18th, 2004 @ 6:02pm, said:
Where exactly is the old Sheraton bldg?
#21
Posted Wednesday, January 5, 2005 at 9:56 AM
Subdude, on Wednesday, January 5th, 2005 @ 8:19am, said:
Oh! I did not know that... and thats the one I said I'd been eyeing.
#27
Posted Friday, March 25, 2005 at 12:06 PM
Could these be homeless people who are using the hard hats as a ruse to sneak in and out of the building? If so, pretty clever.
#28
Posted Friday, March 25, 2005 at 1:57 PM
Subdude, on Wednesday, March 16th, 2005 @ 1:21pm, said:
interesting...what would lee harvey oswald be doing in houston applying for a job, if in only a month, he would be in dealey plaza allegedly assassinating JFK? where did you hear about this?
#29
Posted Friday, March 25, 2005 at 2:30 PM
chris7772, on Friday, March 25th, 2005 @ 12:57pm, said:
also remember JFK was in houston before dallas, stayed at the rice hotel nov. 21st '63
who knows why oswald was down here, interesting indeed.
#30
Posted Friday, March 25, 2005 at 3:36 PM
chris7772, on Friday, March 25th, 2005 @ 12:57pm, said:
From google links that showed when I was looking up either the Savoy or the Conoco weather ball in another topic.
Here's one of the links:
www.jfk-online.com/alicelho.html
Jack Ruby shows up with the Sheraton-Lincoln.
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#31
Posted Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 4:55 AM
It's also quite leaky. Everytime a storm blew through downtown you could see big puddles form on all of the floors.
#32
Posted Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 12:41 PM
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#33
Posted Tuesday, May 3, 2005 at 10:34 PM
squatterkid, on Saturday, December 18th, 2004 @ 6:35pm, said:
does anyone know whatever happened to this guy?
does he still post here? maybe under a new handle?
thanks.
#34
Posted Tuesday, May 3, 2005 at 11:43 PM
Dream
#36
Posted Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 11:02 AM
#37
Posted Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 11:38 AM
zaphod, on Saturday, May 28th, 2005 @ 8:19pm, said:
they are absolutely awesome! I would love any stories about the savoy (or the central square building, for that matter) either as a forum or member message post. please & thanks.
#38
Posted Sunday, May 29, 2005 at 6:49 PM
RedScare, on Sunday, May 29th, 2005 @ 10:02am, said:
I think the bar was the Barrister Club. The sign is still outside. The building was just the Savoy. It closed in the late 1980s.
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#41
Posted Friday, June 3, 2005 at 4:30 PM
Sambone, on Wednesday, June 1st, 2005 @ 10:22pm, said:
I'm new here, and excited to know that others look at old buildings with the same curiosity as me. This may have been discussed previously, but anyone have any info on the Plaza on Montrose (history, etc.)? thanks
You've come to the right place.
The Plaza was the first combination hotel-apartment building in the city. It opened in early 1926 and the architect was Joseph Finger. Since it was designed as a luxury residence, the rooms included refrigerators and an early cooling system, which was rare back then. Most apartments and hotels at the time were U or E shaped, but the Plaza was designed in an L to maximize the light and airflow for the rooms. It closed in 1986 and is only now being renovated.
like the sun; it shines everywhere"
#43
Posted Monday, July 11, 2005 at 4:11 PM
My girlfriend got an apartment so I don't have to live in empty buildings anymore, at least in Houston anyways.
The Central Square seems to have changed ownership again. Watercolor drawing of what they hope to have happen in the area. I'll believe it when I see it. That area just seems destined to forever fail. That donut shop changes hands every so often, the Thai place is never open, the 50's Diner that looks like an Airstream trailer (who's idea was that?) just down the street speaks for itself. More and more people have gotten into the building. Just smash a window on the ground floor and go for it. Never my style. But the owners are silly, instead of boarding the whole bottom floor up, they just board up whichever window got smashed.
I spent some time in Detroit last month. Possibly the only place with more empty actual skyscrapers than houston. I got into one, the Fort Shelby Hotel. Completely wrecked but still interesting.
I dunno, pretty boring town.....
kid
#44
Posted Monday, July 11, 2005 at 4:48 PM
are you going to miss living in the hotels, etc? even just a little?
you're right - central square owners are doofs. looks like they paid someone five bucks to tack on some boards (and reinforce them with shoddy pieces of scrap metal!).
squatterkid, on Monday, July 11th, 2005 @ 3:11pm, said:
My girlfriend got an apartment so I don't have to live in empty buildings anymore, at least in Houston anyways.
The Central Square seems to have changed ownership again. Watercolor drawing of what they hope to have happen in the area. I'll believe it when I see it. That area just seems destined to forever fail. That donut shop changes hands every so often, the Thai place is never open, the 50's Diner that looks like an Airstream trailer (who's idea was that?) just down the street speaks for itself. More and more people have gotten into the building. Just smash a window on the ground floor and go for it. Never my style. But the owners are silly, instead of boarding the whole bottom floor up, they just board up whichever window got smashed.
I spent some time in Detroit last month. Possibly the only place with more empty actual skyscrapers than houston. I got into one, the Fort Shelby Hotel. Completely wrecked but still interesting.
I dunno, pretty boring town.....
kid
#47
Posted Monday, July 11, 2005 at 6:29 PM
MidtownCoog, on Monday, July 11th, 2005 @ 4:28pm, said:
(the swimmig pool is the underground parking garage after Allison)
yes - it is chain link and wood-framed and has casters for easy opening and closing at the entryways
#48
Posted Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:10 PM
Luckily (or unluckily, depending upon how you look at it) for the owners, there isn't a scrap piece of metal left in the building worth salvaging. Scrappers got every bit of copper plumbing, wire and aluminum that was possible. Crackheads, among other things, are efficient.
I'm really still curious about the Days Inn. A couple years ago, some friends and I went in to have a look, despite the signs outside saying that tresspassing was a felony. (What, is it a government historical site or something? Ha.) We we're greeted by a fellow who was the "caretaker" and said that he had the day shift and another fellow had the night shift, and if we came back at night he would give us a tour.
This intrigues me because I would love to have a position like that. I do miss living in a 17 story building with a few friends. We used to slide down the laundry chute at the Savoy. We filled one room with mattresses and had a bouncy wall room. At any rate. I'd be perfect for the job. I've vowed to never again pay rent. And being the type of person that gets into buildings, I'm perfect for keeping other people out. Not to be exclusive and proprietary, but I don't agree with gutting a building of all of it's usuable copper plumbing and electrical wiring, rendering the building almost beyond repair. That's dumb. Unless the owner of said building is a rich jerk...
Well, I'm only around for a few days, headed up to NYC. No abandoned skyscrapers there...
#49
Posted Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 3:36 PM
squatterkid, on Tuesday, July 12th, 2005 @ 2:10pm, said:
i would doubt there are still caretakers at the days inn - although i would love to get a tour. where did you run in to the caretaker?
#50
Posted Tuesday, July 12, 2005 at 8:05 PM
sevfiv, on Tuesday, July 12th, 2005 @ 3:36pm, said:
Unless they are just people who live there posing as caretakers. But since there are plans to begin renovation next year maybe there is a real caretaker now. I wonder how much longer people will be able to get into the days inn, before I believe landco's the one doing it starts cleaning it out.
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