Mr.Clean19 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Heard that this will be starting by the end of this year. Thanks 5th Warders for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hallelujah! Great Opportunity to make a Gateway-Statement to the Navigation District. Guadalupe Plaza Park could use a little love too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Can't wait to see the progress from this and the continued growth in the direct vicinity, with the Ancorian Project on Commerce behind the shopping center currently there and the future of the big lot between Canal and Runnels being potentially sold to Midway in the KBR transaction. Hopefully the BBP incorporates more improvements to Guadalupe Park Plaza as mentioned above. Edited September 7, 2018 by I'm Not a Robot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Does the fact that this is moving forward suggest that the connectivity of Runnels to McKee will be retained as part of the I-45 reroute project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I do not think that this is related in anyway. The Circle has been the plan of the Great East End District for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 That’s fair. I was just thinking that if it’s meant to be a gateway to the East End, then it would be silly for one of the streets off of the roundabout to be a short dead end street. Also, I would guess that blocking off Runnels would have an effect on traffic flow and would mean whatever traffic analysis was used to justify this change to the intersection (which I assume was based in part on an increase in traffic volume) may no longer be applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 That's also a valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 According to Houston's plan... they want to do an underpass for Runnels to downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On the Agenda for the January meeting, the East End District is considering an additional traffic study for alternatives to a roundabout at Jensen/Navigation. I wonder what caused this seemingly sudden change of plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Probably the budget is too tight to afford a nice roundabout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 9:25 AM, I'm Not a Robot said: On the Agenda for the January meeting, the East End District is considering an additional traffic study for alternatives to a roundabout at Jensen/Navigation. I wonder what caused this seemingly sudden change of plan. is it the east end district that wanted the roundabout in the first place, or are they just reacting to a situation proposed by the city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 https://www.eastenddistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/April-Board-Mtg.-Agenda.pdf 13. B. 3. is a note that they will report on the roundabout in the board meeting this week. http://tirz23.org/accountability/agendas/ April 2019 Agenda 10. Consider partial payment of reinvestment zone contribution to construction of roundabout at Jensen and Navigation. So I'm guessing they will pick up where they left off on this? I never heard whether they voted to continue with an additional study to determine how to go forward 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 https://www.eastenddistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/Navigation-Roundabout-RFQ.pdf 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 8:46 PM, I'm Not a Robot said: https://www.eastenddistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/Navigation-Roundabout-RFQ.pdf Glad this is still going to be turned into a roundabout. We definitely need a lot more of these in town. They are way more versatile than a regular intersection. Probably should also be one on Nav. and N. York. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Luminare said: Glad this is still going to be turned into a roundabout. We definitely need a lot more of these in town. They are way more versatile than a regular intersection. Probably should also be one on Nav. and N. York. https://www.eastenddistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/June-2019-Board-Meeting-Agenda.pdf Looks like the board will be looking to approve the selection of the committee assigned to the project this Thursday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) New content uploads on the webpage. It appears as if they are just recently re-uploaded images due to the dates in the files. Regardless, it definitely signals that we should be hearing something soon. Edited September 5, 2019 by I'm Not a Robot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, I'm Not a Robot said: They demolished my house in this drawing! All jokes aside though, interesting that EEMD, or the developer of the roundabout, whoever made the drawing, would have renderings of the new buildings (both of Marquette's) but not incorporate them in their presently designed form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) https://www.eastenddistrict.com/capital-projects/navigation-jensen-runnels-roundabout/ An update that basically says nothing new except that funding for public engagement has been secured. Edited September 27, 2019 by I'm Not a Robot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 https://www.eastenddistrict.com/public-art-concept-plan-proposed-navigation-boulevard-roundabout/ update regarding the art concept that is separate from the roundabout project. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I like the idea a lot. It would be great to have some public art at the roundabout, but this just seems to be putting the cart before the horse. Maybe actually sign a contract to get the roundabout built first? I know funding is secured, but that's it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Jensen is being resurfaced from Clinton to Navigation. I spoke to the construction crew which said that all they are working on is resurfacing and that they are unaware of any plans to turn the Navigation/Jensen/Runnels intersection into a roundabout. However, there were COH and EEMD supervisors with the crew. I wasn't able to talk to them as they were all on the phone. I had recently seen survey crews on site with markers placed at the intersection. Hopefully they are working on both at the same time... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Never noticed the "proposed street car" line going from east Navigation down commerce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ljchou said: Never noticed the "proposed street car" line going from east Navigation down commerce Yes, I believe that streetcar is called "desire." I'll show myself out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, JBTX said: Yes, I believe that streetcar is called "desire." I'll show myself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mkultra25 said: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Simplifying the roundabout to one lane may help drivers but I'm not sure if it helps traffic. Two lane roundabouts DO exist in Houston (ex. Washington and Westcott, which is a good example since it also includes of a single road going from north/south to west/east) but every time I see one of the "two lanes narrowed into one" design, it tends to affirm my belief that traffic circles are just form-over-function novelties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @IronTiger the current intersection is absolute cancer. You current have a 4-way intersection which, because of the 45 degree angle of the Navigation bend and Jensen, ends up actually being an 8-signal intersection as the left turns aren't properly aligned, so they have their own sequence. Add in the stoplight on the Navigation to Navigation right turn, and you technically have a 9-sequence light for a four-way intersection. It's also important to note that the amount of traffic going from Runnels to Navigation or Jensen is usually 1-3 cars, per cycle, max. The traffic from that side is negligible, but they have their own part of the cycle. Unless you can realign the interesetion into a grid (which you can't), the *only* way to improve it is to add a continuous flow roundabout. I don't care if it's only one lane, anything that keeps this from being a 5 minute light is function over form. Especially when you add in a new 400 unit apartment complex right at the intersection. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 for the size this intersection is currently, I imagine a 2 lane roundabout will fit. the amount of traffic I ever see in this intersection currently doesn't really warrant/need 2 lanes, but growth in the area will happen, and a 2 lane roundabout will make sense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 If ever there was an intersection in Houston where a roundabout was warranted, it is here. Here combined with the Canal/Navigation intersection is more consistently frustrating than any other one-two combo I can think of. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) On 10/28/2020 at 10:09 PM, JBTX said: @IronTiger the current intersection is absolute cancer. You current have a 4-way intersection which, because of the 45 degree angle of the Navigation bend and Jensen, ends up actually being an 8-signal intersection as the left turns aren't properly aligned, so they have their own sequence. Add in the stoplight on the Navigation to Navigation right turn, and you technically have a 9-sequence light for a four-way intersection. It's also important to note that the amount of traffic going from Runnels to Navigation or Jensen is usually 1-3 cars, per cycle, max. The traffic from that side is negligible, but they have their own part of the cycle. Unless you can realign the interesetion into a grid (which you can't), the *only* way to improve it is to add a continuous flow roundabout. I don't care if it's only one lane, anything that keeps this from being a 5 minute light is function over form. Especially when you add in a new 400 unit apartment complex right at the intersection. Part of the problem with the existing intersection is I see is the insistence that eastbound Navigation has to have two lanes going continuous to the southbound part (requiring an additional light), which the roundabout would get rid of anyway. So if that were the case, I present to you a cost-effective alternative, for your consideration. http://www.carbon-izer.com/files/haif/jnavi-1.png Edited October 30, 2020 by IronTiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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