Blue Dogs Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 With the likelihood of Texas State AG Greg Abbott ® getting elected as the 48th Governor of Texas on November 4th, questions arise whether Abbott will cut into Democratic territory such as Harris County (which Bill White barely carried in 2010 in the previous gubernatorial election). Will Abbott carry Harris County against Davis in November ? A. Yes B. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therepguy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 B. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Hope not, so B: NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) NO. I'd vote for Perry over Abbott but I'd rather take the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge than vote for Perry. Edited August 19, 2014 by KinkaidAlum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 B. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 A lot can change between now and then, but I'm not seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Perry won Harris County in 2002 and 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Perry won Harris County in 2002 and 2006. That may well be, but Harris County is gradually becoming bluer. I also think that Abbott in the age of the Tea Party is a much more polarizing figure than early Rick Perry was. Wendy Davis likely has as much name recognition as Bill White did; either of them have more recognition than Ron Kirk did around here. As for '06, I doubt that even Chris Bell's mom could have gotten excited about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Chris Bell was a two-time loser: couldn't win the Mayor's race in 2001 (failed to make the runoff), lost his reelection bid for the U.S. House-TX 25th (got redistricted out too), etc., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Jacquie Baly on Fox 26, said she thinks Abbott wins Harris County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I will confirm it with y'all around 8-9PM tonight. Until then, I prefer you to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Jacquie Baly on Fox 26, said she thinks Abbott wins Harris County. Do we really expect an R to say anything else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Abbott did win Harris County last night.Republicans won governorships in Maryland, Illinois, Arkansas.Colorado, Connecticut and Alaska too close to call.In Alaska, incumbent Governor Sean Parnell ® trailing in election results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I admit, I was kind of surprised. Usually in elections, the whole state's red except for a rather distinctive triangle of blue counties, including Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and the odd county out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 At the County level Dallas County and Harris are not usually blue. Definitely not Dallas Country, Harris can go either way depending on the race. City of Houston is. I'm basing this off memory of looking at major statewide and federal elections over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Dallas Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 haha oops. that was NOT intentional. but it was funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Around 3,000,000 voting-age residents in Harris County. Around 2,100,000 are registered to vote (68%). Around 700,000 bothered to vote yesterday. People don't vote. Whether it's the new voter ID laws, unlimited money pouring into races after the Citizens United decision souring people on elections (seriously, if I had to see another protect our borders because Obama wont commercial...), gerrymandered districts created solely on behalf of the Party in charge of redistricting leading to uncompetitive races, the war on drugs causing a rise in felons who can't vote, or simply people just too f'ing lazy, it's a sad day for our Democracy. Republicans win when people don't vote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Can not believe Davis lost Harris County but won Dallas County. I thought Houston was more liberal than Dallas. I guess I was wrong.The real problem though was that Democrats didn't get out to vote.I heard some Hispanics voted for Abbott because he had a Hispanic wife and she would be the first lady of Tejas. (really sad)Many people did not even know there was an election. (really sad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0123 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Can not believe Davis lost Harris County but won Dallas County. I thought Houston was more liberal than Dallas. I guess I was wrong.The real problem though was that Democrats didn't get out to vote.I heard some Hispanics voted for Abbott because he had a Hispanic wife and she would be the first lady of Tejas. (really sad)Many people did not even know there was an election. (really sad)I agree that turnout was the problem. Harris County is still liberal, but I think the Democratic party at large made the mistake of distancing themselves from Obama. They should have put him front and center, shown some reminder news clips about how far down the hole our economy nearly tanked vs where we are now. I like Obama, voted for Davis regardless, but think Obama showing up down here could have encouraged more liberals to get out and vote. The Democratic party ALWAYS makes the same mistake... playing the politically safe route. Each time it bites them in the butt. The last time they didn't go the conventional route was 2008. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I agree that turnout was the problem. Harris County is still liberal, but I think the Democratic party at large made the mistake of distancing themselves from Obama. They should have put him front and center, shown some reminder news clips about how far down the hole our economy nearly tanked vs where we are now. I like Obama, voted for Davis regardless, but think Obama showing up down here could have encouraged more liberals to get out and vote.The Democratic party ALWAYS makes the same mistake... playing the politically safe route. Each time it bites them in the butt. The last time they didn't go the conventional route was 2008. Exactly, the people that say that they would not have voted for a specific Democrat because that Democrat supported President Obama wouldn't have voted for them in the first place. If President Obama had came down, I think a lot more people would have been aware that they needed to vote. Edited November 5, 2014 by citykid09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Exactly, the people that say that they would not have voted for a specific Democrat because that Democrat supported President Obama wouldn't have voted for them in the first place. If President Obama had came down, I think a lot more people would have been aware that they needed to vote.I agree. Obama should've spent some time here. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy - we can't win Texas so why bother trying. Without trying - we don't win Texas. Tiresome. I also think the Mayor/sermon controversy energized the Repubs further at the worst possible time.Maybe, just maybe, Abbott won't embarrass us like Perry did. Edited November 5, 2014 by Dakota79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 As expected, moaning and lamenting from the losing "side". "Ohhhhhh woeeeee issssss weeeeeeee. People are too stupid to see that I am right! They need to be told when to go do stuff because they're just soooooooooo lazy." Blah blah blah, yada yada yada. There are regular elections. Every year you have something to vote on. Keep trying and you'll win some, and you'll lose some. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Abbott won in landslide with less than 2.8 million votes. There are nearly 14 million registered voters in Texas. That's a problem. Also nice to see Abbott going after Denton County today because the citizens there banned fracking. I guess "more local control" is situational? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Abbott also won Tarrant County (Davis' home turf) and my home county of Bexar. Totaling that Abbott won 235 out of 254 counties.He performed bigger than Perry did 4 years ago:2010: Perry won 55%-42% over White *He carried 226 out of 254 counties *Lost Bexar, Dallas, Harris, Travis counties * Won 69% of Anglos, 11% of African Americans & 38% of Latinos Last night, Abbott won 59%-38% over Davis* Carried 235 out of 254, as I mentioned earlier * Won Harris, Tarrant and Bexar counties * Won 73% of Anglos, 7% of African Americans & 44% of Latinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Ladies & gentlemen, tomorrow is inauguration day for Greg Abbott [R] as TX's 48th Governor & Dan Patrick [R] as the state's 42nd Lieutenant Governor, both being sworn into office at the State Capitol steps. Afterwards, a BBQ luncheon as well as an inaugural parade (first parade since 2003) & finally: the inaugural ball at the Austin Convention Center later Tuesday night.http://abc13.com/live/http://kxan.com/live-stream/What's everyone's thoughts on Abbott as his family moves into the Governor's Mansion? Edited January 19, 2015 by Blue Dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteele6 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 No thoughts on Mr. Abbott, however, with respect to Mr. Patrick (nee Goeb), I would expect his tenure as Lieutenant Governor to end as many of his other enterprises have ended, in a debacle. His first appearance in Houston, as a television sportscaster was greeted by everyone I knew, with disdain. He lasted only a short time in that capacity. His next venture, a string of sports bars, ended in 1986 with a bankruptcy and his attempted suicide. Since that time he has found his niche as a conservative commentator, a vocation for which he does seem well qualified, a bombastic personality coupled with a meager grasp of fact and an utter contempt for truth. Given these characteristics, I would expect that he would rely on his aides to do the actual work of Lieutenant Governor (the most powerful position in the Texas government) and they will, I fear, at some point use their position to enrich themselves, leaving Mr. Patrick to bear the consequences. JMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 No thoughts on Mr. Abbott, however, with respect to Mr. Patrick (nee Goeb), I would expect his tenure as Lieutenant Governor to end as many of his other enterprises have ended, in a debacle.His first appearance in Houston, as a television sportscaster was greeted by everyone I knew, with disdain. He lasted only a short time in that capacity. His next venture, a string of sports bars, ended in 1986 with a bankruptcy and his attempted suicide. Since that time he has found his niche as a conservative commentator, a vocation for which he does seem well qualified, a bombastic personality coupled with a meager grasp of fact and an utter contempt for truth.Given these characteristics, I would expect that he would rely on his aides to do the actual work of Lieutenant Governor (the most powerful position in the Texas government) and they will, I fear, at some point use their position to enrich themselves, leaving Mr. Patrick to bear the consequences.JMOYou're thinking major scandal will bring him down. We'll see how it goes for the next 4 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteele6 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wouldn't go so far as to say the next four years, however, Mr. Patrick's history seems to indicate that he may find governing to be a less engaging activity than rabble rousing (his real area of expertise) and that is a situation in which a politician may well find himself in hot water not entirely of his own creation, e.g. the late Presidency of Mr. G.W. Bush and his eminence grise Mr. Cheney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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