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So you guys admit that people are paying outrageous fees to use a road that was paid off so long ago that now it's just about as slow as the free roads.

 

At any rate, I plan on doing this in the evening after people are off work. I'm thinking 7p.m.

Should still be enough traffic to have an effect but not so much that they were already barely moving anyways.

We would also travel along a strategic section that is laid out best for our cause.(not parts where it is 7+ lanes)

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7 hours ago, VinnyVincent said:

You might hate them but the reality is that they have been very effective in pushing the city to make it more bike friendly by adding bike lanes and the like.

We got bike lanes way before critical mass. They were mandated by the feds. Even my hardcore biking friends hate critical mass. The PR damage they've done is far worse than any good they've done.

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3 minutes ago, jgriff said:

We got bike lanes way before critical mass. They were mandated by the feds. Even my hardcore biking friends hate critical mass. The PR damage they've done is far worse than any good they've done.

Trust me you got a lot more because of critical mass. The PR thing, that's your opinion. Ever hear of bike houston and the houston bike plan? Both of those are connected to the critical mass event.

 

The event has been very successful nationwide, in spite of what you and your cyclist friends think.

I think if I model this toll road protest after them, it can also be successful.

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Critical Mass is scheduled regularly and has police escorts, and supporters of Critical Mass would claim that they're trying to raise bicycle awareness on the roads (you know, share the road and all) and bike at a normal speed, and not "I specifically aim to be an asshole to antagonize others into doing what I want", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

 

Secondly, bicycling has gotten a better reputation and even in areas that don't have Critical Mass (like, say, College Station-Bryan) bicycling improvements have gotten much better. Correlation doesn't equal causation, bud.

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3 hours ago, IronTiger said:

Critical Mass is scheduled regularly and has police escorts, and supporters of Critical Mass would claim that they're trying to raise bicycle awareness on the roads (you know, share the road and all) and bike at a normal speed, and not "I specifically aim to be an asshole to antagonize others into doing what I want", which is what you seem to be suggesting.

 

Secondly, bicycling has gotten a better reputation and even in areas that don't have Critical Mass (like, say, College Station-Bryan) bicycling improvements have gotten much better. Correlation doesn't equal causation, bud.

Critical Mass certainly didn't start out with police escorts. On the contrary they were often harassed by police before they grew to such large numbers.

What I'm suggesting is no different than the critical mass event. It's a regularly scheduled meet where like minded individuals meet to show the morons in Austin that we are tired of this crap. Every new road is a toll road and it's BS.

They don't understand/listen to anyones complaint so apparently citizens need to take action. What would you suggest would be an effective way to get the message across to them?

 

Your second paragraph is a phenomenon known as awareness. Back when houston was designed bikes were not factored in. College station probably doesn't want a bunch of obnoxious cyclists clogging their streets every month, so when they started to get more developed they included bikes in the mix.

Awareness is exactly what we would be raising by participating in this protest.

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Every time I see Critical Mass, my immediate thought is they should all be arrested for traffic offenses, and their bikes impounded. Recently, HPD has been pretty good about stopping them every so often to allow cross traffic to go through. Critical Mass does nothing to further understanding and tolerance for bikes.

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29 minutes ago, Ross said:

Every time I see Critical Mass, my immediate thought is they should all be arrested for traffic offenses, and their bikes impounded. Recently, HPD has been pretty good about stopping them every so often to allow cross traffic to go through. Critical Mass does nothing to further understanding and tolerance for bikes.

Arrested for traffic offenses? Man you pro toll guys sure are starting to sound like you want houston to turn into a police state:P

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3 hours ago, VinnyVincent said:

Critical Mass certainly didn't start out with police escorts. On the contrary they were often harassed by police before they grew to such large numbers.

What I'm suggesting is no different than the critical mass event. It's a regularly scheduled meet where like minded individuals meet to show the morons in Austin that we are tired of this crap. Every new road is a toll road and it's BS.

They don't understand/listen to anyones complaint so apparently citizens need to take action. What would you suggest would be an effective way to get the message across to them?

 

Your second paragraph is a phenomenon known as awareness. Back when houston was designed bikes were not factored in. College station probably doesn't want a bunch of obnoxious cyclists clogging their streets every month, so when they started to get more developed they included bikes in the mix.

Awareness is exactly what we would be raising by participating in this protest.

 

lol you're giving Critical Mass way too much credit

 

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