Blue Dogs Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ladies & gentlemen, just wanted to know if y'all heard about the decision by the HISD School Board, who voted last night to rename 3 more schools with ties to the Confederacy. I want your reaction to these developments: http://abc13.com/education/hisd-to-rename-3-more-schools-with-confederate-ties/1197316/ Predicting some of the alumni of these high schools are going to file a lawsuit with backing from TX State Attorney General Ken Paxton [R] & Co., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Rename Sidney Lanier to Bob Lanier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm pretty annoyed by the HISD board action. The comments by Jolanda Jones and Rhonda Skillern-Jones were the normal race baiting you would expect from those 2, and the whole exercise is a waste of money at a time when the district is likely to have a $100 million shortfall in funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texmex1 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The further pussification of America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADCS Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 It's rather shocking that we still have high schools named after Confederate figures. Not solely because of the race thing, but because of the blatant treason thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Great change to see. Davis in particular was the President of the Confederacy! Definitely need his name off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yeah, I'm a big history buff and don't like to see things changed like this, but I'll have to agree the decision here. These names need to be history books, on memorials or at museums and such. Our public school buildings are not the place for them. However I'd have to guess that most of the students don't give a crap, and probably aren't even aware of who Jeff Davis or Sidney Lanier are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Funny. I went to Johnston Jr High many years ago and never realized I was apparently serving the Confederacy. Guess I was just oblivious back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yeah, I'm a big history buff and don't like to see things changed like this, but I'll have to agree the decision here. These names need to be history books, on memorials or at museums and such. Our public school buildings are not the place for them. However I'd have to guess that most of the students don't give a crap, and probably aren't even aware of who Jeff Davis or Sidney Lanier are. It appears that you don't know who Sidney Lanier is either. He wasn't a Confederate General or something, he was just a common soldier. He is not famous for fighting in the Civil War, he is famous for being a musician, poet and author. I am fine with the removal of people who are only famous for fighting in the Civil War on the side of the south, but this just isn't the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Time to follow the only true path to school naming. P.S. 1, P.S. 2, P.S. 3, P.S. 4... Or better yet, just sell naming rights and help defray the HISD deficit. "My kid goes to Finger's Furniture Middle School!" Helluva bumper sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasnoDTX Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 They're gonna name them all after Malcolm X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch King Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Geez.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Time to follow the only true path to school naming. P.S. 1, P.S. 2, P.S. 3, P.S. 4... Or better yet, just sell naming rights and help defray the HISD deficit. "My kid goes to Finger's Furniture Middle School!" Helluva bumper sticker. Or Gallery Furniture High School - Really. Will. Teach. You. Maaaaaath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Or Gallery Furniture High School - Really. Will. Teach. You. Maaaaaath!I prefer "Waste Management Middle School", as it's a local business and middle school always "stinks" anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (***sigh...***) Weren't we past the stage of slapping St. Ronnie of Santa Barbara's name on everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's renaming a high school already called "Reagan" though. Half the parents probably already think it is named for Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:39 AM, cspwal said: It's renaming a high school already called "Reagan" though. Half the parents probably already think it is named for Ronald Reagan WOW. Really ? ROFLOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 On 2/12/2016 at 9:54 AM, kbates2 said: It appears that you don't know who Sidney Lanier is either. He wasn't a Confederate General or something, he was just a common soldier. He is not famous for fighting in the Civil War, he is famous for being a musician, poet and author. I am fine with the removal of people who are only famous for fighting in the Civil War on the side of the south, but this just isn't the same thing. Well excuse me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 On 4/2/2016 at 7:09 PM, plumber2 said: Well excuse me! Jolanda Jones getting uppity again with her brash crap! http://www.houstonpress.com/news/lanier-parents-want-jolanda-jones-to-apologize-to-middle-school-students-8352681 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 5:24 PM, IronTiger said: Rename Sidney Lanier to Bob Lanier? To be honest, I'm a little surprised they did this, even if it did seem like the most obvious choice in retrospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 On 4/2/2016 at 7:09 PM, plumber2 said: Well excuse me! Jolanda Jones getting uppity again with her brash crap! http://www.houstonpress.com/news/lanier-parents-want-jolanda-jones-to-apologize-to-middle-school-students-8352681 On 6/17/2016 at 6:43 PM, IronTiger said: To be honest, I'm a little surprised they did this, even if it did seem like the most obvious choice in retrospect. Iron Tiger, no word if the parents will have a hissy fit on the name changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Looks like several high school alumni groups have filed lawsuits to stop it! No word how far these lawsuits go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I think Heights High School is confusing given that there's already a Houston Heights High School. To me, the whole process was very witch hunt-y and rather unnecessary. If it's that much of a big deal, then as the schools go up for replacement, THEN start fresh with a new name. John H. Reagan wasn't even that much of a bad guy, I can't find anything where he owned slaves, he only resigned from Congress after it was clear Texas would secede, and afterwards, cooperated with the federal government and advocated letting freed slaves vote. Ironically, given how scorched-earth HISD behaves, their very namesake played a part in Civil War history. He resigned rather than swear to it, but he refused an offer to have troops sent over to squash rebellion, and was mostly against the Civil War due to wanting to avoid bloodshed rather than any particular loyalty to the Union (Houston supported states' rights). I imagine some would argue that makes him just as guilty. But...whatever we may think of the affair, HISD chooses to make its mark in history. We make choices on a whim, not knowing how it will affect future generations. We all want to make the world a better place, be on "the right side of history". Of course, sometimes those ideas often conflict, often end disastrously, and often the target as to what "the right side of history" moves. We will never know if our era will be seen as a golden era of freedom for everyone, or the beginning of a dark age where depravity reigned supreme as radicals sought to destroy a nation that gave them power. The best advice is just to fight for what you believe in, and history will eventually sort itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dogs Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 9/4/2016 at 0:22 AM, IronTiger said: I think Heights High School is confusing given that there's already a Houston Heights High School. To me, the whole process was very witch hunt-y and rather unnecessary. If it's that much of a big deal, then as the schools go up for replacement, THEN start fresh with a new name. John H. Reagan wasn't even that much of a bad guy, I can't find anything where he owned slaves, he only resigned from Congress after it was clear Texas would secede, and afterwards, cooperated with the federal government and advocated letting freed slaves vote. Ironically, given how scorched-earth HISD behaves, their very namesake played a part in Civil War history. He resigned rather than swear to it, but he refused an offer to have troops sent over to squash rebellion, and was mostly against the Civil War due to wanting to avoid bloodshed rather than any particular loyalty to the Union (Houston supported states' rights). I imagine some would argue that makes him just as guilty. But...whatever we may think of the affair, HISD chooses to make its mark in history. We make choices on a whim, not knowing how it will affect future generations. We all want to make the world a better place, be on "the right side of history". Of course, sometimes those ideas often conflict, often end disastrously, and often the target as to what "the right side of history" moves. We will never know if our era will be seen as a golden era of freedom for everyone, or the beginning of a dark age where depravity reigned supreme as radicals sought to destroy a nation that gave them power. The best advice is just to fight for what you believe in, and history will eventually sort itself out. But will the lawsuit from several alumni of the high schools go anywhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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