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The Highbank, Braeswood - 284 unit apartment / Anti-smoking and littering rant

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On 3/15/2017 at 2:41 PM, bobruss said:

I hate to beat a dead horse, but why are all smokers so oblivious to putting their butts where they belong. Do they have some theory that after a certain amount of time they will simply disintegrate., or do they think that the cigarette butt fairy will come behind them and suck them all up with her magic vacuum.

Is it that they just don't care. Do they not see the growing pile of butts they are adding to. Is it a stigma of smokers or do they just like 

flicking their butts. They throw them out of their cars, onto the sidewalk, in parks anywhere but in the cans that are provided. They throw them in lakes, ponds gutters and yards. 

Is it that smokers could care less about themselves, others or the environment. I just don't get it.

My personal belief is that many smokers, in the US, where education about the dangers of smoking is EVERYWHERE, simply have an "I don't care" attitude.  I truely think that the smokers who toss cigarettes from cars or onto the street or parkland is really  just exhibiting the same tendencies that led them to begin to smoke to begin with.

 

Personally, I would support a city ordinance that allowed a police officer to write a $1,000.00 ticket for anyone tossing a butt onto public spaces.  A second offense would be $4,000.00.  And warrants for arrests would be issued for failure to pay.

 

 

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It upsets me as much, but this would be very costly for municipalities for the process of adjudication  and incarceration.

There has to be some means of getting these peoples attention with some sort of signage with a clever incentive to make people think before they flick. A street art project to bring public awareness. A gorilla art program. Anyone interested in a charette type competition to create something? Its time we make some stands for the good of the community. They might actually get some traction with some TV and news attention.

It never hurts to try to make a difference.

Just a thought.

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Note: Edited title to reflect new discussions  :huh:

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being a person that doesn't drink soft drinks I am hyper-sensitive to seeing empty soda bottles and cans everywhere.

 

I also don't drink energy drinks, so again, I am hyper-sensitive to seeing empty energy drink bottles.

 

I'd be happy to take pictures of this specific litter on our streets, and next to trash cans everywhere.

 

I get it, smoking is a nasty habit. I think current stats are that less than 15% of Americans do it (and the numbers are dropping). Both of these things highlight cigarette butts littering the ground, but singling out a specific subset of people that litter over another is silly. Anyone that liters is disgusting and needs to have fines levied the first few offenses, and then they need to do a few hours of community service picking up litter for future offenses.

 

I'm all for highlighting that smokers have always and continue to just toss their butts anywhere and that it's not cool, and as far as an art project, someone should collect and glue cigarette butts to a car for the art car parade. That would be stinky, but cool.

 

While I do believe that cigarette butt pollution is disgusting to look at, plastic pollution is way more harmful to the environment, and our food chain, since plastics end up being eaten by all sorts of things we eat, we essentially end up eating plastic. I'm not aware of animals that eat cigarette butts. So as a type of litter to be affronted by, you should probably focus on plastics (styrofoam too!) above all other forms of litter.

 

(former smoker, I can't say I never threw out a butt, but I can say if there was an ashtray available, I used it)

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On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 5:28 PM, kbates2 said:

 

Yeah, I know plenty of liberals who smoke too.  What a joke of a post.

and they call us the "snowflakes" LOL !!!

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On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 7:55 AM, bobruss said:

Well at least orange peels degrade.

careful, these cheeto supporters might get upset on here.  LOL

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On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 1:38 PM, Montrose1100 said:

Littering has no political affiliation or conceived state of education or rhetoric. Some people just don't care, period.

while I and most do agree, my statement also calls to attention the crowd I discussed and have witnessed time and time again "not caring" while others around them, obviously not having the same set of criteria for "helping out" do the work of picking up their own trash.  Just sayin'.  :)

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On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 5:28 PM, kbates2 said:

 

Yeah, I know plenty of liberals who smoke too.  What a joke of a post.

so sad you didn't understand the entirety of the point being made while rushing to judge someone who obviously doesn't believe everything you happen to believe.  Oh well, you can't fix...

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And now that some have screamed and yelled about the littering problem (which is a bad thing) can we get back to the subject at hand?

 

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I agree, we should get back to the topic of discussion. the good old Highbank. 

I love the connotation that this is built on the high bank of Braes Bayou to give psychological reassurance to all of those seniors that live there and worry the next time we get a 500 year old flood because,  "Hey, You live on the High bank!" Don't worry your cars are going to float just like the rest of the buildings built this close to a major flood plain.

Where do these developers come up with this stuff.

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2 hours ago, bobruss said:

I agree, we should get back to the topic of discussion. the good old Highbank. 

 

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