cspwal Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I figured to have a new place to talk about the station to relieve the Texas Triangle thread, I'd ask where people would like to see the station end up. I added a few more options than just NW mall and downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Our city is big enough for two! I want one in Downtown first and then NW Mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Good idea, I'd rather have the main TCR thread about project updates and discussion on the project as a whole. Advantage to downtown site: -Connection with METRORail (and thus access to downtown, museum district, UH, TMC and Reliant quickly without a car)-More centrally located, closer to Downtown, TMC, Greenway, major universities, both airports, museum area, etc. -Closer/better access to more freeways and also the potential for a development that would incorporate Amtrak and Greyhound terminals (unlikely but nice to have the option in the future) Advantage to 290 location: -Closer to uptown, energy corridor, western suburbs-POTENTIAL connection to BRT system up Post Oak (not sure if it will go all the way to NW Mall)-SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper, which is really why TCR is considering this site in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
102IAHexpress Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Our city is big enough for two! I want one in Downtown first and then NW Mall. sounds good. Add one in the med center for me. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Downtown. It's most accessible to the most people. Departing and arriving. No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I won't vote until there is an option for River Oaks. The thought has occurred to me that the main purpose for people traveling from Dallas would be to go to the 31 flavors across from Lamar high school, may as well put them right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Adjacent to the NW Transit Center would be more suitable than the NW Mall location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Bush Airport to downtown.Knock out two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 No it should be the HSR station is at NW mall, but a maglev train connects it to downtown, IAH, and the woodlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Might as well make it go to every single house while we're assuming unlimited funds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Adjacent to the NW Transit Center would be more suitable than the NW Mall location. The Northwest Transit Center is unique in that there's actually purchased and cleared right of way for such a high capacity mass transit corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Might as well make it go to every single house while we're assuming unlimited funds You'd want to go to their front doors, because as we all know, going into people's backyards would be hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No it should be the HSR station is at NW mall, but a maglev train connects it to downtown, IAH, and the woodlandsSee now I would like that also... I guess my train of thought is if people are being dumped downtown then it will force retail and other developments due to the huge increase of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Bush Airport to downtown.Knock out two birds with one stone.Unfortunately I think we'll have to wait for this one.I would like to see IAH-Downtown-HOU eventually. No stops in between. Of course, I guess you extend that same line north to the Wood Hood, and south to GTown. But that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The Northwest Transit Center is unique in that there's actually purchased and cleared right of way for such a high capacity mass transit corridor. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 From I-10 to 290, all of the cleared land is designated a High Capacity Transit Corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Might as well make it go to every single house while we're assuming unlimited funds Can we run it down Richmond through Afton Oaks? Since there won't be a light rail line there, there's an opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie21love Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Can we run it down Richmond through Afton Oaks? Since there won't be a light rail line there, there's an opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 From I-10 to 290, all of the cleared land is designated a High Capacity Transit Corridor. What cleared land? By whom was this designation made? When was it made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsuckow Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Isn't ( or wasn't) there an "intermodal" station noted for land just north and west of the downtown CBD, on original plans for the Red Line? I always expected that could be the place that intercity bullet transport, and possibly commuter rail, was to intersect the Houston light rail network. I'm not sure, but I think the intermodal location would have had something in common with planned Hardy Yards redevelopment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 What cleared land? By whom was this designation made? When was it made?Give me a few minutes I'll find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Sorry I forgot about this and I'm on mobile, it's at least part of the plans on the highway 290 construction page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 From I-10 to 290, all of the cleared land is designated a High Capacity Transit Corridor. Thanks. I found what you are apparently referring to. The plans show a 50-foot corridor running north from the Northwest Transit Center to Hempstead Highway, and then following the Hempstead Highway corridor out to the northwest, meeting up with 290 just west of the Beltway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 My bad, didn't mean for you to do the research to support my claim, but I haven't had a chance to find it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 How about some meaningful info. www.texascentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Step-1-Screening-of-Corridor-Alternatives-Report.pdf Page 111 of the pdf shows a Houston station location comparison chart. Several other very interesting pages as well. Also a quote: "Based on this initial screening, the preferred station area for Houston is the location around the intersection of US 290 and IH-610" on page 112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah that's what I figured for the initial build-out of the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Page 43 (or page 30) assumes the Houston terminal to be where the Amtrak station and the Post Office land is located.... Edit: but that was for the BNSF route; still reading through this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, I guess all alignments assume a station into downtown Houston "at the Post Office site" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This pretty much says it all; It is recognized that development of the “Last Mile” into heavily urbanized and developed areas may generate additional ridership demand, particularly with respect to trip destinations. However, reaching the downtown station locations would require significant construction costs and result in additional impacts that would likely not be offset by the additional revenue gained from the ridership increase. Moreover, from the perspective of trip originations, there has been some evidence on HSR systems worldwide that suburban stations are more attractive since users of the system would not need to make their way into the urban core to begin their trip to a distant city. The identification of the preferred station locations has been the subject of significant ridership and engineering studies and will be documented separately from this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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